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Menno Hershberger
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      19th Oct 2006
I have an eMachine T2692 here that had a fried motherboard. I've replaced
it with a new one from PCChips. What I'm trying to do is save the current
Windows installation.

I'm getting the blue screen of death on startup which flashes off so fast
I can't read it. I'm assuming it's trying to load drivers that don't
match the new motherboard. Fixboot and fixmbr don't help as I suspected.

From past experience I suspect that a repair install won't work because
it will crash the first time it reboots since the drivers haven't been
changed yet.

A fresh install would work but with new hardware it probably wouldn't
activate.

I could manipulate files from the repair console if I had any idea *what*
to manipulate so I could get it to boot.

Data is no problem. I've cloned the hard drive and also have all his data
burned to DVDs. So a new install is acceptable. It's buying a new copy of
Windows that we're trying to get around.

Any ideas?

Thanks

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      19th Oct 2006

"Menno Hershberger" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have an eMachine T2692 here that had a fried motherboard. I've replaced
> it with a new one from PCChips. What I'm trying to do is save the current
> Windows installation.
>
> I'm getting the blue screen of death on startup which flashes off so fast
> I can't read it. I'm assuming it's trying to load drivers that don't
> match the new motherboard. Fixboot and fixmbr don't help as I suspected.
>
> From past experience I suspect that a repair install won't work because
> it will crash the first time it reboots since the drivers haven't been
> changed yet.
>
> A fresh install would work but with new hardware it probably wouldn't
> activate.


You analysis is generally correct...what do you mean 'wouldn't activate'?
The fresh install is IMO imperative.


 
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Menno Hershberger
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      20th Oct 2006
"Quanta" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:eh8v85$o5q$(E-Mail Removed):

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> "Menno Hershberger" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns9861B267B77BDbutter@wefb973cbe498...
>>I have an eMachine T2692 here that had a fried motherboard. I've
>>replaced
>> it with a new one from PCChips. What I'm trying to do is save the
>> current Windows installation.
>>
>> I'm getting the blue screen of death on startup which flashes off so
>> fast I can't read it. I'm assuming it's trying to load drivers that
>> don't match the new motherboard. Fixboot and fixmbr don't help as I
>> suspected.
>>
>> From past experience I suspect that a repair install won't work
>> because it will crash the first time it reboots since the drivers
>> haven't been changed yet.
>>
>> A fresh install would work but with new hardware it probably wouldn't
>> activate.

>
> You analysis is generally correct...what do you mean 'wouldn't
> activate'? The fresh install is IMO imperative.


It's an OEM installation. With new hardware I doubt if a reinstall would
recognize it as an eMachine and probably wouldn't activate.

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      20th Oct 2006
"Menno Hershberger" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have an eMachine T2692 here that had a fried motherboard. I've replaced
> it with a new one from PCChips. What I'm trying to do is save the current
> Windows installation.
>
> I'm getting the blue screen of death on startup which flashes off so fast
> I can't read it. I'm assuming it's trying to load drivers that don't
> match the new motherboard. Fixboot and fixmbr don't help as I suspected.
>
> From past experience I suspect that a repair install won't work because
> it will crash the first time it reboots since the drivers haven't been
> changed yet.
>
> A fresh install would work but with new hardware it probably wouldn't
> activate.
>
> I could manipulate files from the repair console if I had any idea *what*
> to manipulate so I could get it to boot.
>
> Data is no problem. I've cloned the hard drive and also have all his data
> burned to DVDs. So a new install is acceptable. It's buying a new copy of
> Windows that we're trying to get around.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> --- A dyslexic man walks into a bra ---


The OEM version of Windows XP that shipped with your eMachine is branded and
BIOS-locked by eMachines.
You can neither perform a repair installation, nor perform a clean
installation to the new motherboard using your OEM version of Windows XP.
Your next step is to purchase a non-branded Operating System that will
install to the new motherboard.
Steve


 
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Richard Urban
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      20th Oct 2006
Unless you have a retail XP CD you will not be able to do the type of repair
install that will solve your problem.

As you suspect, using the restore CD's that came with your computer is for
the M/B that was originally supplied with the computer. It will not boot any
better that what you have now.

I would suggest that you get either a Windows XP O.E.M. CD and do a clean
install or purchase a retail version of Windows XP and do a repair install.
In either case, you will have to hunt down the requisite drivers from the
eMachine web site for your particular computer.

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"Menno Hershberger" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Xns9861B267B77BDbutter@wefb973cbe498...
>I have an eMachine T2692 here that had a fried motherboard. I've replaced
> it with a new one from PCChips. What I'm trying to do is save the current
> Windows installation.
>
> I'm getting the blue screen of death on startup which flashes off so fast
> I can't read it. I'm assuming it's trying to load drivers that don't
> match the new motherboard. Fixboot and fixmbr don't help as I suspected.
>
> From past experience I suspect that a repair install won't work because
> it will crash the first time it reboots since the drivers haven't been
> changed yet.
>
> A fresh install would work but with new hardware it probably wouldn't
> activate.
>
> I could manipulate files from the repair console if I had any idea *what*
> to manipulate so I could get it to boot.
>
> Data is no problem. I've cloned the hard drive and also have all his data
> burned to DVDs. So a new install is acceptable. It's buying a new copy of
> Windows that we're trying to get around.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> --- A dyslexic man walks into a bra ---



 
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P. Johnson
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      20th Oct 2006
Menno Hershberger wrote:

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> I have an eMachine T2692 here that had a fried motherboard. I've replaced
> it with a new one from PCChips. What I'm trying to do is save the current
> Windows installation.


Your best hope is to boot into safe mode and remove everything under the
System Devices section in the device manager, reboot and hope everything
gets detected OK.

> A fresh install would work but with new hardware it probably wouldn't
> activate.


You could always give MS a call in that case.

 
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      20th Oct 2006
"P. Johnson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:kkil04-(E-Mail Removed):

> Menno Hershberger wrote:
>
>>
>> I have an eMachine T2692 here that had a fried motherboard. I've
>> replaced it with a new one from PCChips. What I'm trying to do is
>> save the current Windows installation.

>
> Your best hope is to boot into safe mode and remove everything under
> the System Devices section in the device manager, reboot and hope
> everything gets detected OK.


Won't boot in Safe Mode either.

>
>> A fresh install would work but with new hardware it probably wouldn't
>> activate.

>
> You could always give MS a call in that case.


I've done that before when I had problems. It might work.
Never tried it with a changed motherboard though.
Thanks for the suggestion.

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Menno Hershberger
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      20th Oct 2006
"Richard Urban" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> Unless you have a retail XP CD you will not be able to do the type of
> repair install that will solve your problem.
>
> As you suspect, using the restore CD's that came with your computer is
> for the M/B that was originally supplied with the computer. It will
> not boot any better that what you have now.
>
> I would suggest that you get either a Windows XP O.E.M. CD and do a
> clean install or purchase a retail version of Windows XP and do a
> repair install. In either case, you will have to hunt down the
> requisite drivers from the eMachine web site for your particular
> computer.


It won't be an eMachine anymore... :-)

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Richard Urban
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      20th Oct 2006
But the other hardware in your computer supposedly came with the computer,
courtesy of eMachine - NO? Don't you need drivers for them also? Or, was
"everything" on the motherboard?

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Richard Urban
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(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Menno Hershberger" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Richard Urban" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:(E-Mail Removed):
>
>> Unless you have a retail XP CD you will not be able to do the type of
>> repair install that will solve your problem.
>>
>> As you suspect, using the restore CD's that came with your computer is
>> for the M/B that was originally supplied with the computer. It will
>> not boot any better that what you have now.
>>
>> I would suggest that you get either a Windows XP O.E.M. CD and do a
>> clean install or purchase a retail version of Windows XP and do a
>> repair install. In either case, you will have to hunt down the
>> requisite drivers from the eMachine web site for your particular
>> computer.

>
> It won't be an eMachine anymore... :-)
>
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Menno Hershberger
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      21st Oct 2006
"Richard Urban" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> But the other hardware in your computer supposedly came with the
> computer, courtesy of eMachine - NO? Don't you need drivers for them
> also? Or, was "everything" on the motherboard?


Everything that the CD had drivers for was. Sound and video were on board
and the other drivers were for chipset and USB.
I haven't given up just yet. I have the hard drive slaved in my shop
computer now and can "edit" files on it. Now if I just knew what file
those drivers were loading in...
If I can get it going and it needs re-activating, I'll call MS and see if
they'll let me get by with it. It's not like I'm trying to do anything
crooked.

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