Hello

I am designing a new web site for a client. I am fairly new to designing
for/on web. I am using FP 2003 and have solved prior problems using this
forum, so I try again:

Please refer to test site on url: http://www.cm-context.dk/newweb

I have never checked the site on anything but IE 6.0 (did simply not think
there could be a problem) but my attention has been brought to the fact, that
the site is not compatible with Opera browser (and possible other browsers as
well).

Please, will anyone look at my site and possible tell me what I am doing
wrong.

hopes and regards
carsten-m

Designing for browser compatibility:
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/...html?tw=design
--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/off...tid=FX01085802
How to ask a newsgroup question:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
===
"carsten-m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3DFFA98E-5BD8-4F8D-AF47-(E-Mail Removed)...
| Hello
|
| I am designing a new web site for a client. I am fairly new to designing
| for/on web. I am using FP 2003 and have solved prior problems using this
| forum, so I try again:
|
| Please refer to test site on url: http://www.cm-context.dk/newweb
|
| I have never checked the site on anything but IE 6.0 (did simply not think
| there could be a problem) but my attention has been brought to the fact,
that
| the site is not compatible with Opera browser (and possible other browsers
as
| well).
|
| Please, will anyone look at my site and possible tell me what I am doing
| wrong.
|
| hopes and regards
| carsten-m

Why are you concerned about Opera with its very nearly insignificant market
share?

It would also help if you mentioned which things weren't working for you.

Anyhow - looking at the code, I can see that you have violated one of the
cardinal rules of using absolute positioning -

<td width="260">
<div style="position: absolute; width: 260px; height: 300px;
z-index: 2; padding-left: 130px; padding-top: 265px" id="click"
onclick="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'images/forside/animation.gif');
FP_changeProp(/*id*/'click',0,'style.visibility','hidden')">
<marquee behavior="slide" style="font-family: Verdana; color: #CC0000;
font-size: 10pt" loop="1" width="140" class="handClass">Click for short
intro</marquee></div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>
<img border="0" src="images/forside/anim_right_still.jpg"
width="260" height="260" id="img1"></td>

You must never put absolutely positioned elements directly into table cells.
Perhaps by changing this markup to this -

<td width="260">
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>
<img border="0" src="images/forside/anim_right_still.jpg"
width="260" height="260" id="img1"></td>

and then this -

</body>

to this -

<div style="position: absolute; width: 260px; height: 300px;
z-index: 2; padding-left: 130px; padding-top: 265px" id="click"
onclick="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'images/forside/animation.gif');
FP_changeProp(/*id*/'click',0,'style.visibility','hidden')">
<marquee behavior="slide" style="font-family: Verdana; color: #CC0000;
font-size: 10pt" loop="1" width="140" class="handClass">Click for short
intro</marquee></div>
</body>

you may well see that your problems go away.


--
Murray
============

"carsten-m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3DFFA98E-5BD8-4F8D-AF47-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello
>
> I am designing a new web site for a client. I am fairly new to designing
> for/on web. I am using FP 2003 and have solved prior problems using this
> forum, so I try again:
>
> Please refer to test site on url: http://www.cm-context.dk/newweb
>
> I have never checked the site on anything but IE 6.0 (did simply not think
> there could be a problem) but my attention has been brought to the fact,
> that
> the site is not compatible with Opera browser (and possible other browsers
> as
> well).
>
> Please, will anyone look at my site and possible tell me what I am doing
> wrong.
>
> hopes and regards
> carsten-m

Thanks for answering. There seems to be many intersting features and info on
the site you referred me to, but I can not seem to find any solution to my
present problem there. But thanks again for borthering to look into it.

carsten-m

"Tom Pepper Willett" skrev:

> Designing for browser compatibility:
> http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/...html?tw=design
> --
> ===
> Tom "Pepper" Willett
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> ---
> About FrontPage 2003:
> http://office.microsoft.com/home/off...tid=FX01085802
> How to ask a newsgroup question:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> ===
> "carsten-m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:3DFFA98E-5BD8-4F8D-AF47-(E-Mail Removed)...
> | Hello
> |
> | I am designing a new web site for a client. I am fairly new to designing
> | for/on web. I am using FP 2003 and have solved prior problems using this
> | forum, so I try again:
> |
> | Please refer to test site on url: http://www.cm-context.dk/newweb
> |
> | I have never checked the site on anything but IE 6.0 (did simply not think
> | there could be a problem) but my attention has been brought to the fact,
> that
> | the site is not compatible with Opera browser (and possible other browsers
> as
> | well).
> |
> | Please, will anyone look at my site and possible tell me what I am doing
> | wrong.
> |
> | hopes and regards
> | carsten-m
>
>
>

Thanks for your answer and your effort to help.

I am not primarily concerned about Opera but merely the fact, that
everything in this newly designed site works absolutely fine when tested in
IE 6, but apparently not in other browsers? I have been using FP 2003 as I
would do PhotoShop, Illustrator and InDesign when I design brochures etc,
meaning that I do not have to know anything of the coding that lyes behind
the program.

Please refer to the looks/appearence of the url: http://cm-context.dk/newweb
in IE 6 for ref.

You tell me, that "You must never put absolutely positioned elements
directly into table cells". It may sound strange to you, but I do not know
what absolute positioning means. I have in FP 2003 made a swap behavior and
used a layer to form the "click for short intro" button to acitvate the swap
behavior. I have made it as layer because it had to be on the top of the
picture. And as I said: I have had no indication from FP 2003 or from review
in IE 6 that this was no good??

I have tried your suggestion,
please ref. to url: http://cm-context.dk/newweb_disc_group

As I do not programme in "raw" html I do not know, what theese changes are
or what they do, but the result seems to be pretty much the same (if I have
made the corrections the right way, that is) except that the "button" "Click
here for more info" has disappeared from the screen - you have to scroll far
down to find it. This is the same for IE 6 as for Opera (which other more
significant browsers should I test it on)?

How do I correct this, how do I go about, how concerned should I be?

kind regards - and still hopefull

carsten-m

"Murray" skrev:

> Why are you concerned about Opera with its very nearly insignificant market
> share?
>
> It would also help if you mentioned which things weren't working for you.
>
> Anyhow - looking at the code, I can see that you have violated one of the
> cardinal rules of using absolute positioning -
>
> <td width="260">
> <div style="position: absolute; width: 260px; height: 300px;
> z-index: 2; padding-left: 130px; padding-top: 265px" id="click"
> onclick="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'images/forside/animation.gif');
> FP_changeProp(/*id*/'click',0,'style.visibility','hidden')">
> <marquee behavior="slide" style="font-family: Verdana; color: #CC0000;
> font-size: 10pt" loop="1" width="140" class="handClass">Click for short
> intro</marquee></div>
> <p> </p>
> <p>
> <img border="0" src="images/forside/anim_right_still.jpg"
> width="260" height="260" id="img1"></td>
>
> You must never put absolutely positioned elements directly into table cells.
> Perhaps by changing this markup to this -
>
> <td width="260">
> <p> </p>
> <p>
> <img border="0" src="images/forside/anim_right_still.jpg"
> width="260" height="260" id="img1"></td>
>
> and then this -
>
> </body>
>
> to this -
>
> <div style="position: absolute; width: 260px; height: 300px;
> z-index: 2; padding-left: 130px; padding-top: 265px" id="click"
> onclick="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'images/forside/animation.gif');
> FP_changeProp(/*id*/'click',0,'style.visibility','hidden')">
> <marquee behavior="slide" style="font-family: Verdana; color: #CC0000;
> font-size: 10pt" loop="1" width="140" class="handClass">Click for short
> intro</marquee></div>
> </body>
>
> you may well see that your problems go away.
>
>
> --
> Murray
> ============
>
> "carsten-m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:3DFFA98E-5BD8-4F8D-AF47-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hello
> >
> > I am designing a new web site for a client. I am fairly new to designing
> > for/on web. I am using FP 2003 and have solved prior problems using this
> > forum, so I try again:
> >
> > Please refer to test site on url: http://www.cm-context.dk/newweb
> >
> > I have never checked the site on anything but IE 6.0 (did simply not think
> > there could be a problem) but my attention has been brought to the fact,
> > that
> > the site is not compatible with Opera browser (and possible other browsers
> > as
> > well).
> >
> > Please, will anyone look at my site and possible tell me what I am doing
> > wrong.
> >
> > hopes and regards
> > carsten-m
>
>
>

> used a layer to form the "click for short intro" button

That's absolute positioning. "Layers" are absolutely positioned elements.
They should never be put directly into table cells.

> And as I said: I have had no indication from FP 2003 or from review
> in IE 6 that this was no good??

Yes - unfortunately this is something you only learn by experience.

> but the result seems to be pretty much the same

It's entirely possible, since I had no idea what I was trying to fix! 8)

But looking at your link - http://cm-context.dk/newweb_disc_group/ - I can
see that the center image is now displaying properly aligned, whereas before
it was not. Was that the problem?

If that is the case, it appears that you need to do two more things and then
you will be done. Both will require that you work in the 'raw' HTML - are
you up for the challenge?

--
Murray
============

"carsten-m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:B76A54B0-2B58-4F49-89EF-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks for your answer and your effort to help.
>
> I am not primarily concerned about Opera but merely the fact, that
> everything in this newly designed site works absolutely fine when tested
> in
> IE 6, but apparently not in other browsers? I have been using FP 2003 as I
> would do PhotoShop, Illustrator and InDesign when I design brochures etc,
> meaning that I do not have to know anything of the coding that lyes behind
> the program.
>
> Please refer to the looks/appearence of the url:
> http://cm-context.dk/newweb
> in IE 6 for ref.
>
> You tell me, that "You must never put absolutely positioned elements
> directly into table cells". It may sound strange to you, but I do not know
> what absolute positioning means. I have in FP 2003 made a swap behavior
> and
> used a layer to form the "click for short intro" button to acitvate the
> swap
> behavior. I have made it as layer because it had to be on the top of the
> picture. And as I said: I have had no indication from FP 2003 or from
> review
> in IE 6 that this was no good??
>
> I have tried your suggestion,
> please ref. to url: http://cm-context.dk/newweb_disc_group
>
> As I do not programme in "raw" html I do not know, what theese changes are
> or what they do, but the result seems to be pretty much the same (if I
> have
> made the corrections the right way, that is) except that the "button"
> "Click
> here for more info" has disappeared from the screen - you have to scroll
> far
> down to find it. This is the same for IE 6 as for Opera (which other more
> significant browsers should I test it on)?
>
> How do I correct this, how do I go about, how concerned should I be?
>
> kind regards - and still hopefull
>
> carsten-m
>
> "Murray" skrev:
>
>> Why are you concerned about Opera with its very nearly insignificant
>> market
>> share?
>>
>> It would also help if you mentioned which things weren't working for you.
>>
>> Anyhow - looking at the code, I can see that you have violated one of the
>> cardinal rules of using absolute positioning -
>>
>> <td width="260">
>> <div style="position: absolute; width: 260px; height:
>> 300px;
>> z-index: 2; padding-left: 130px; padding-top: 265px" id="click"
>> onclick="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'images/forside/animation.gif');
>> FP_changeProp(/*id*/'click',0,'style.visibility','hidden')">
>> <marquee behavior="slide" style="font-family: Verdana; color: #CC0000;
>> font-size: 10pt" loop="1" width="140" class="handClass">Click for short
>> intro</marquee></div>
>> <p> </p>
>> <p>
>> <img border="0" src="images/forside/anim_right_still.jpg"
>> width="260" height="260" id="img1"></td>
>>
>> You must never put absolutely positioned elements directly into table
>> cells.
>> Perhaps by changing this markup to this -
>>
>> <td width="260">
>> <p> </p>
>> <p>
>> <img border="0" src="images/forside/anim_right_still.jpg"
>> width="260" height="260" id="img1"></td>
>>
>> and then this -
>>
>> </body>
>>
>> to this -
>>
>> <div style="position: absolute; width: 260px; height:
>> 300px;
>> z-index: 2; padding-left: 130px; padding-top: 265px" id="click"
>> onclick="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'images/forside/animation.gif');
>> FP_changeProp(/*id*/'click',0,'style.visibility','hidden')">
>> <marquee behavior="slide" style="font-family: Verdana; color: #CC0000;
>> font-size: 10pt" loop="1" width="140" class="handClass">Click for short
>> intro</marquee></div>
>> </body>
>>
>> you may well see that your problems go away.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Murray
>> ============
>>
>> "carsten-m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:3DFFA98E-5BD8-4F8D-AF47-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Hello
>> >
>> > I am designing a new web site for a client. I am fairly new to
>> > designing
>> > for/on web. I am using FP 2003 and have solved prior problems using
>> > this
>> > forum, so I try again:
>> >
>> > Please refer to test site on url: http://www.cm-context.dk/newweb
>> >
>> > I have never checked the site on anything but IE 6.0 (did simply not
>> > think
>> > there could be a problem) but my attention has been brought to the
>> > fact,
>> > that
>> > the site is not compatible with Opera browser (and possible other
>> > browsers
>> > as
>> > well).
>> >
>> > Please, will anyone look at my site and possible tell me what I am
>> > doing
>> > wrong.
>> >
>> > hopes and regards
>> > carsten-m
>>
>>
>>

Thanks again for replying

"Learn from experience" you say. Hmmm. I was lead to believe that FP 2003
with review on IE 6 was a "what you see is what you get" application, that
you did not need to know "raw" html to work. I am not into "raw" html, have
not got the time to learn it. Is there any other application that will work
without knowledge of html, or will I encounter problems in any of these?

If I am not to make absolutely positioned elements, how do I go about it? Is
it safe to only use tables/cells?

How it is meant to look: Again: Check the url: http://www.cm-context.dk/newweb
with IE 6 versus i.e. Opera (the one I have compared it with)....

kind regards

"Murray" skrev:

> > used a layer to form the "click for short intro" button
>
> That's absolute positioning. "Layers" are absolutely positioned elements.
> They should never be put directly into table cells.
>
> > And as I said: I have had no indication from FP 2003 or from review
> > in IE 6 that this was no good??
>
> Yes - unfortunately this is something you only learn by experience.
>
> > but the result seems to be pretty much the same
>
> It's entirely possible, since I had no idea what I was trying to fix! 8)
>
> But looking at your link - http://cm-context.dk/newweb_disc_group/ - I can
> see that the center image is now displaying properly aligned, whereas before
> it was not. Was that the problem?
>
> If that is the case, it appears that you need to do two more things and then
> you will be done. Both will require that you work in the 'raw' HTML - are
> you up for the challenge?
>
> --
> Murray
> ============
>
> "carsten-m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:B76A54B0-2B58-4F49-89EF-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Thanks for your answer and your effort to help.
> >
> > I am not primarily concerned about Opera but merely the fact, that
> > everything in this newly designed site works absolutely fine when tested
> > in
> > IE 6, but apparently not in other browsers? I have been using FP 2003 as I
> > would do PhotoShop, Illustrator and InDesign when I design brochures etc,
> > meaning that I do not have to know anything of the coding that lyes behind
> > the program.
> >
> > Please refer to the looks/appearence of the url:
> > http://cm-context.dk/newweb
> > in IE 6 for ref.
> >
> > You tell me, that "You must never put absolutely positioned elements
> > directly into table cells". It may sound strange to you, but I do not know
> > what absolute positioning means. I have in FP 2003 made a swap behavior
> > and
> > used a layer to form the "click for short intro" button to acitvate the
> > swap
> > behavior. I have made it as layer because it had to be on the top of the
> > picture. And as I said: I have had no indication from FP 2003 or from
> > review
> > in IE 6 that this was no good??
> >
> > I have tried your suggestion,
> > please ref. to url: http://cm-context.dk/newweb_disc_group
> >
> > As I do not programme in "raw" html I do not know, what theese changes are
> > or what they do, but the result seems to be pretty much the same (if I
> > have
> > made the corrections the right way, that is) except that the "button"
> > "Click
> > here for more info" has disappeared from the screen - you have to scroll
> > far
> > down to find it. This is the same for IE 6 as for Opera (which other more
> > significant browsers should I test it on)?
> >
> > How do I correct this, how do I go about, how concerned should I be?
> >
> > kind regards - and still hopefull
> >
> > carsten-m
> >
> > "Murray" skrev:
> >
> >> Why are you concerned about Opera with its very nearly insignificant
> >> market
> >> share?
> >>
> >> It would also help if you mentioned which things weren't working for you.
> >>
> >> Anyhow - looking at the code, I can see that you have violated one of the
> >> cardinal rules of using absolute positioning -
> >>
> >> <td width="260">
> >> <div style="position: absolute; width: 260px; height:
> >> 300px;
> >> z-index: 2; padding-left: 130px; padding-top: 265px" id="click"
> >> onclick="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'images/forside/animation.gif');
> >> FP_changeProp(/*id*/'click',0,'style.visibility','hidden')">
> >> <marquee behavior="slide" style="font-family: Verdana; color: #CC0000;
> >> font-size: 10pt" loop="1" width="140" class="handClass">Click for short
> >> intro</marquee></div>
> >> <p> </p>
> >> <p>
> >> <img border="0" src="images/forside/anim_right_still.jpg"
> >> width="260" height="260" id="img1"></td>
> >>
> >> You must never put absolutely positioned elements directly into table
> >> cells.
> >> Perhaps by changing this markup to this -
> >>
> >> <td width="260">
> >> <p> </p>
> >> <p>
> >> <img border="0" src="images/forside/anim_right_still.jpg"
> >> width="260" height="260" id="img1"></td>
> >>
> >> and then this -
> >>
> >> </body>
> >>
> >> to this -
> >>
> >> <div style="position: absolute; width: 260px; height:
> >> 300px;
> >> z-index: 2; padding-left: 130px; padding-top: 265px" id="click"
> >> onclick="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'images/forside/animation.gif');
> >> FP_changeProp(/*id*/'click',0,'style.visibility','hidden')">
> >> <marquee behavior="slide" style="font-family: Verdana; color: #CC0000;
> >> font-size: 10pt" loop="1" width="140" class="handClass">Click for short
> >> intro</marquee></div>
> >> </body>
> >>
> >> you may well see that your problems go away.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Murray
> >> ============
> >>
> >> "carsten-m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:3DFFA98E-5BD8-4F8D-AF47-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Hello
> >> >
> >> > I am designing a new web site for a client. I am fairly new to
> >> > designing
> >> > for/on web. I am using FP 2003 and have solved prior problems using
> >> > this
> >> > forum, so I try again:
> >> >
> >> > Please refer to test site on url: http://www.cm-context.dk/newweb
> >> >
> >> > I have never checked the site on anything but IE 6.0 (did simply not
> >> > think
> >> > there could be a problem) but my attention has been brought to the
> >> > fact,
> >> > that
> >> > the site is not compatible with Opera browser (and possible other
> >> > browsers
> >> > as
> >> > well).
> >> >
> >> > Please, will anyone look at my site and possible tell me what I am
> >> > doing
> >> > wrong.
> >> >
> >> > hopes and regards
> >> > carsten-m
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

> "Learn from experience" you say. Hmmm. I was lead to believe that FP 2003
> with review on IE 6 was a "what you see is what you get" application, that
> you did not need to know "raw" html to work.

It's hyperbole. There is no such thing as a WYSIWYG HTML authoring system
for the simple reason that there are so many different versions of browsers
made by so many different browser manufacturers with so many different
interpretations of what the standards really are. The real truth is that
the more you know about HTML, the easier these problems will be to solve.

> Is there any other application that will work
> without knowledge of html, or will I encounter problems in any of these?

You will have the same or similar problems in all of them. There is just so
much to HTML that cannot be built into a "wizard".

> If I am not to make absolutely positioned elements, how do I go about it?

I didn't say that you are not to use absolutely positioned elements
(layers). I did say that if you are going to use them, you must not put
them directly into table cells, however. There are several other caveats
about using them, just as there are about using anything you put onto a web
page.

> Is it safe to only use tables/cells?

Yes. Sometimes. 8(

Here are the remaining steps you need to do to fix your page so that it will
look as it does here - http://www.cm-context.dk/newweb - assuming you have
already made the changes I described in my previous post -

1. Drag and drop the layer in the location where you want it to appear on
the finished page.
2. Change this -

</head>

to this -

<style type="text/css">
<!--
body { text-align:center; }
#wrapper { text-align:left; width:850px; margin:0 auto;position:relative; }
-->
</style>
</head>

change this -

<body ...> (the elipsis represents everything else in the body tag)

to this -

<body ...>
<div id="wrapper">

and this -

</body>

to this -

</div><!-- /wrapper -->
</body>

and see if that helps.

The page will display properly in any browser viewport width, with the layer
positioned as you want.

By the way, an 850px wide table will give horizontal scrollbars on any
800x600 screen....

--
Murray
============

"carsten-m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:30981E08-5706-4115-8071-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks again for replying
>
> "Learn from experience" you say. Hmmm. I was lead to believe that FP 2003
> with review on IE 6 was a "what you see is what you get" application, that
> you did not need to know "raw" html to work. I am not into "raw" html,
> have
> not got the time to learn it. Is there any other application that will
> work
> without knowledge of html, or will I encounter problems in any of these?
>
> If I am not to make absolutely positioned elements, how do I go about it?
> Is
> it safe to only use tables/cells?
>
> How it is meant to look: Again: Check the url:
> http://www.cm-context.dk/newweb
> with IE 6 versus i.e. Opera (the one I have compared it with)....
>
> kind regards
>
> "Murray" skrev:
>
>> > used a layer to form the "click for short intro" button
>>
>> That's absolute positioning. "Layers" are absolutely positioned
>> elements.
>> They should never be put directly into table cells.
>>
>> > And as I said: I have had no indication from FP 2003 or from review
>> > in IE 6 that this was no good??
>>
>> Yes - unfortunately this is something you only learn by experience.
>>
>> > but the result seems to be pretty much the same
>>
>> It's entirely possible, since I had no idea what I was trying to fix! 8)
>>
>> But looking at your link - http://cm-context.dk/newweb_disc_group/ - I
>> can
>> see that the center image is now displaying properly aligned, whereas
>> before
>> it was not. Was that the problem?
>>
>> If that is the case, it appears that you need to do two more things and
>> then
>> you will be done. Both will require that you work in the 'raw' HTML -
>> are
>> you up for the challenge?
>>
>> --
>> Murray
>> ============
>>
>> "carsten-m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:B76A54B0-2B58-4F49-89EF-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Thanks for your answer and your effort to help.
>> >
>> > I am not primarily concerned about Opera but merely the fact, that
>> > everything in this newly designed site works absolutely fine when
>> > tested
>> > in
>> > IE 6, but apparently not in other browsers? I have been using FP 2003
>> > as I
>> > would do PhotoShop, Illustrator and InDesign when I design brochures
>> > etc,
>> > meaning that I do not have to know anything of the coding that lyes
>> > behind
>> > the program.
>> >
>> > Please refer to the looks/appearence of the url:
>> > http://cm-context.dk/newweb
>> > in IE 6 for ref.
>> >
>> > You tell me, that "You must never put absolutely positioned elements
>> > directly into table cells". It may sound strange to you, but I do not
>> > know
>> > what absolute positioning means. I have in FP 2003 made a swap behavior
>> > and
>> > used a layer to form the "click for short intro" button to acitvate the
>> > swap
>> > behavior. I have made it as layer because it had to be on the top of
>> > the
>> > picture. And as I said: I have had no indication from FP 2003 or from
>> > review
>> > in IE 6 that this was no good??
>> >
>> > I have tried your suggestion,
>> > please ref. to url: http://cm-context.dk/newweb_disc_group
>> >
>> > As I do not programme in "raw" html I do not know, what theese changes
>> > are
>> > or what they do, but the result seems to be pretty much the same (if I
>> > have
>> > made the corrections the right way, that is) except that the "button"
>> > "Click
>> > here for more info" has disappeared from the screen - you have to
>> > scroll
>> > far
>> > down to find it. This is the same for IE 6 as for Opera (which other
>> > more
>> > significant browsers should I test it on)?
>> >
>> > How do I correct this, how do I go about, how concerned should I be?
>> >
>> > kind regards - and still hopefull
>> >
>> > carsten-m
>> >
>> > "Murray" skrev:
>> >
>> >> Why are you concerned about Opera with its very nearly insignificant
>> >> market
>> >> share?
>> >>
>> >> It would also help if you mentioned which things weren't working for
>> >> you.
>> >>
>> >> Anyhow - looking at the code, I can see that you have violated one of
>> >> the
>> >> cardinal rules of using absolute positioning -
>> >>
>> >> <td width="260">
>> >> <div style="position: absolute; width: 260px; height:
>> >> 300px;
>> >> z-index: 2; padding-left: 130px; padding-top: 265px" id="click"
>> >> onclick="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'images/forside/animation.gif');
>> >> FP_changeProp(/*id*/'click',0,'style.visibility','hidden')">
>> >> <marquee behavior="slide" style="font-family: Verdana; color:
>> >> #CC0000;
>> >> font-size: 10pt" loop="1" width="140" class="handClass">Click for
>> >> short
>> >> intro</marquee></div>
>> >> <p> </p>
>> >> <p>
>> >> <img border="0"
>> >> src="images/forside/anim_right_still.jpg"
>> >> width="260" height="260" id="img1"></td>
>> >>
>> >> You must never put absolutely positioned elements directly into table
>> >> cells.
>> >> Perhaps by changing this markup to this -
>> >>
>> >> <td width="260">
>> >> <p> </p>
>> >> <p>
>> >> <img border="0"
>> >> src="images/forside/anim_right_still.jpg"
>> >> width="260" height="260" id="img1"></td>
>> >>
>> >> and then this -
>> >>
>> >> </body>
>> >>
>> >> to this -
>> >>
>> >> <div style="position: absolute; width: 260px; height:
>> >> 300px;
>> >> z-index: 2; padding-left: 130px; padding-top: 265px" id="click"
>> >> onclick="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'images/forside/animation.gif');
>> >> FP_changeProp(/*id*/'click',0,'style.visibility','hidden')">
>> >> <marquee behavior="slide" style="font-family: Verdana; color:
>> >> #CC0000;
>> >> font-size: 10pt" loop="1" width="140" class="handClass">Click for
>> >> short
>> >> intro</marquee></div>
>> >> </body>
>> >>
>> >> you may well see that your problems go away.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Murray
>> >> ============
>> >>
>> >> "carsten-m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:3DFFA98E-5BD8-4F8D-AF47-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > Hello
>> >> >
>> >> > I am designing a new web site for a client. I am fairly new to
>> >> > designing
>> >> > for/on web. I am using FP 2003 and have solved prior problems using
>> >> > this
>> >> > forum, so I try again:
>> >> >
>> >> > Please refer to test site on url: http://www.cm-context.dk/newweb
>> >> >
>> >> > I have never checked the site on anything but IE 6.0 (did simply not
>> >> > think
>> >> > there could be a problem) but my attention has been brought to the
>> >> > fact,
>> >> > that
>> >> > the site is not compatible with Opera browser (and possible other
>> >> > browsers
>> >> > as
>> >> > well).
>> >> >
>> >> > Please, will anyone look at my site and possible tell me what I am
>> >> > doing
>> >> > wrong.
>> >> >
>> >> > hopes and regards
>> >> > carsten-m
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

I thank you again. I appreciate the effort you have done and may have to
reconcider the extent to which I use web design applications. Unfortunately.

I have tried to implement your suggested changes, but not much have changed
using the opera browser.

Which browsers should I primarily test my site on?

regards
carsten-m

"Murray" skrev:

> > "Learn from experience" you say. Hmmm. I was lead to believe that FP 2003
> > with review on IE 6 was a "what you see is what you get" application, that
> > you did not need to know "raw" html to work.
>
> It's hyperbole. There is no such thing as a WYSIWYG HTML authoring system
> for the simple reason that there are so many different versions of browsers
> made by so many different browser manufacturers with so many different
> interpretations of what the standards really are. The real truth is that
> the more you know about HTML, the easier these problems will be to solve.
>
> > Is there any other application that will work
> > without knowledge of html, or will I encounter problems in any of these?
>
> You will have the same or similar problems in all of them. There is just so
> much to HTML that cannot be built into a "wizard".
>
> > If I am not to make absolutely positioned elements, how do I go about it?
>
> I didn't say that you are not to use absolutely positioned elements
> (layers). I did say that if you are going to use them, you must not put
> them directly into table cells, however. There are several other caveats
> about using them, just as there are about using anything you put onto a web
> page.
>
> > Is it safe to only use tables/cells?
>
> Yes. Sometimes. 8(
>
> Here are the remaining steps you need to do to fix your page so that it will
> look as it does here - http://www.cm-context.dk/newweb - assuming you have
> already made the changes I described in my previous post -
>
> 1. Drag and drop the layer in the location where you want it to appear on
> the finished page.
> 2. Change this -
>
> </head>
>
> to this -
>
> <style type="text/css">
> <!--
> body { text-align:center; }
> #wrapper { text-align:left; width:850px; margin:0 auto;position:relative; }
> -->
> </style>
> </head>
>
> change this -
>
> <body ...> (the elipsis represents everything else in the body tag)
>
> to this -
>
> <body ...>
> <div id="wrapper">
>
> and this -
>
> </body>
>
> to this -
>
> </div><!-- /wrapper -->
> </body>
>
> and see if that helps.
>
> The page will display properly in any browser viewport width, with the layer
> positioned as you want.
>
> By the way, an 850px wide table will give horizontal scrollbars on any
> 800x600 screen....
>
> --
> Murray
> ============
>
> "carsten-m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:30981E08-5706-4115-8071-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Thanks again for replying
> >
> > "Learn from experience" you say. Hmmm. I was lead to believe that FP 2003
> > with review on IE 6 was a "what you see is what you get" application, that
> > you did not need to know "raw" html to work. I am not into "raw" html,
> > have
> > not got the time to learn it. Is there any other application that will
> > work
> > without knowledge of html, or will I encounter problems in any of these?
> >
> > If I am not to make absolutely positioned elements, how do I go about it?
> > Is
> > it safe to only use tables/cells?
> >
> > How it is meant to look: Again: Check the url:
> > http://www.cm-context.dk/newweb
> > with IE 6 versus i.e. Opera (the one I have compared it with)....
> >
> > kind regards
> >
> > "Murray" skrev:
> >
> >> > used a layer to form the "click for short intro" button
> >>
> >> That's absolute positioning. "Layers" are absolutely positioned
> >> elements.
> >> They should never be put directly into table cells.
> >>
> >> > And as I said: I have had no indication from FP 2003 or from review
> >> > in IE 6 that this was no good??
> >>
> >> Yes - unfortunately this is something you only learn by experience.
> >>
> >> > but the result seems to be pretty much the same
> >>
> >> It's entirely possible, since I had no idea what I was trying to fix! 8)
> >>
> >> But looking at your link - http://cm-context.dk/newweb_disc_group/ - I
> >> can
> >> see that the center image is now displaying properly aligned, whereas
> >> before
> >> it was not. Was that the problem?
> >>
> >> If that is the case, it appears that you need to do two more things and
> >> then
> >> you will be done. Both will require that you work in the 'raw' HTML -
> >> are
> >> you up for the challenge?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Murray
> >> ============
> >>
> >> "carsten-m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:B76A54B0-2B58-4F49-89EF-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Thanks for your answer and your effort to help.
> >> >
> >> > I am not primarily concerned about Opera but merely the fact, that
> >> > everything in this newly designed site works absolutely fine when
> >> > tested
> >> > in
> >> > IE 6, but apparently not in other browsers? I have been using FP 2003
> >> > as I
> >> > would do PhotoShop, Illustrator and InDesign when I design brochures
> >> > etc,
> >> > meaning that I do not have to know anything of the coding that lyes
> >> > behind
> >> > the program.
> >> >
> >> > Please refer to the looks/appearence of the url:
> >> > http://cm-context.dk/newweb
> >> > in IE 6 for ref.
> >> >
> >> > You tell me, that "You must never put absolutely positioned elements
> >> > directly into table cells". It may sound strange to you, but I do not
> >> > know
> >> > what absolute positioning means. I have in FP 2003 made a swap behavior
> >> > and
> >> > used a layer to form the "click for short intro" button to acitvate the
> >> > swap
> >> > behavior. I have made it as layer because it had to be on the top of
> >> > the
> >> > picture. And as I said: I have had no indication from FP 2003 or from
> >> > review
> >> > in IE 6 that this was no good??
> >> >
> >> > I have tried your suggestion,
> >> > please ref. to url: http://cm-context.dk/newweb_disc_group
> >> >
> >> > As I do not programme in "raw" html I do not know, what theese changes
> >> > are
> >> > or what they do, but the result seems to be pretty much the same (if I
> >> > have
> >> > made the corrections the right way, that is) except that the "button"
> >> > "Click
> >> > here for more info" has disappeared from the screen - you have to
> >> > scroll
> >> > far
> >> > down to find it. This is the same for IE 6 as for Opera (which other
> >> > more
> >> > significant browsers should I test it on)?
> >> >
> >> > How do I correct this, how do I go about, how concerned should I be?
> >> >
> >> > kind regards - and still hopefull
> >> >
> >> > carsten-m
> >> >
> >> > "Murray" skrev:
> >> >
> >> >> Why are you concerned about Opera with its very nearly insignificant
> >> >> market
> >> >> share?
> >> >>
> >> >> It would also help if you mentioned which things weren't working for
> >> >> you.
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyhow - looking at the code, I can see that you have violated one of
> >> >> the
> >> >> cardinal rules of using absolute positioning -
> >> >>
> >> >> <td width="260">
> >> >> <div style="position: absolute; width: 260px; height:
> >> >> 300px;
> >> >> z-index: 2; padding-left: 130px; padding-top: 265px" id="click"
> >> >> onclick="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'images/forside/animation.gif');
> >> >> FP_changeProp(/*id*/'click',0,'style.visibility','hidden')">
> >> >> <marquee behavior="slide" style="font-family: Verdana; color:
> >> >> #CC0000;
> >> >> font-size: 10pt" loop="1" width="140" class="handClass">Click for
> >> >> short
> >> >> intro</marquee></div>
> >> >> <p> </p>
> >> >> <p>
> >> >> <img border="0"
> >> >> src="images/forside/anim_right_still.jpg"
> >> >> width="260" height="260" id="img1"></td>
> >> >>
> >> >> You must never put absolutely positioned elements directly into table
> >> >> cells.
> >> >> Perhaps by changing this markup to this -
> >> >>
> >> >> <td width="260">
> >> >> <p> </p>
> >> >> <p>
> >> >> <img border="0"
> >> >> src="images/forside/anim_right_still.jpg"
> >> >> width="260" height="260" id="img1"></td>
> >> >>
> >> >> and then this -
> >> >>
> >> >> </body>
> >> >>
> >> >> to this -
> >> >>
> >> >> <div style="position: absolute; width: 260px; height:
> >> >> 300px;
> >> >> z-index: 2; padding-left: 130px; padding-top: 265px" id="click"
> >> >> onclick="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'images/forside/animation.gif');
> >> >> FP_changeProp(/*id*/'click',0,'style.visibility','hidden')">
> >> >> <marquee behavior="slide" style="font-family: Verdana; color:
> >> >> #CC0000;
> >> >> font-size: 10pt" loop="1" width="140" class="handClass">Click for
> >> >> short
> >> >> intro</marquee></div>
> >> >> </body>
> >> >>
> >> >> you may well see that your problems go away.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Murray
> >> >> ============
> >> >>
> >> >> "carsten-m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> >> news:3DFFA98E-5BD8-4F8D-AF47-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> > Hello
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am designing a new web site for a client. I am fairly new to
> >> >> > designing
> >> >> > for/on web. I am using FP 2003 and have solved prior problems using
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > forum, so I try again:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Please refer to test site on url: http://www.cm-context.dk/newweb
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have never checked the site on anything but IE 6.0 (did simply not
> >> >> > think
> >> >> > there could be a problem) but my attention has been brought to the
> >> >> > fact,
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > the site is not compatible with Opera browser (and possible other
> >> >> > browsers
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > well).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Please, will anyone look at my site and possible tell me what I am
> >> >> > doing
> >> >> > wrong.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > hopes and regards
> >> >> > carsten-m
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

> Which browsers should I primarily test my site on?

Those most often used by your client's customers.

> I have tried to implement your suggested changes, but not much have
> changed
> using the opera browser.

I still don't know what you are looking for - it looks quite good to me in
IE6 and FF. But can you show me the page with the changes, please?

--
Murray
============

"carsten-m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:38A9348A-E286-4141-AE18-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I thank you again. I appreciate the effort you have done and may have to
> reconcider the extent to which I use web design applications.
> Unfortunately.
>
> I have tried to implement your suggested changes, but not much have
> changed
> using the opera browser.
>
> Which browsers should I primarily test my site on?
>
> regards
> carsten-m
>
> "Murray" skrev:
>
>> > "Learn from experience" you say. Hmmm. I was lead to believe that FP
>> > 2003
>> > with review on IE 6 was a "what you see is what you get" application,
>> > that
>> > you did not need to know "raw" html to work.
>>
>> It's hyperbole. There is no such thing as a WYSIWYG HTML authoring
>> system
>> for the simple reason that there are so many different versions of
>> browsers
>> made by so many different browser manufacturers with so many different
>> interpretations of what the standards really are. The real truth is that
>> the more you know about HTML, the easier these problems will be to solve.
>>
>> > Is there any other application that will work
>> > without knowledge of html, or will I encounter problems in any of
>> > these?
>>
>> You will have the same or similar problems in all of them. There is just
>> so
>> much to HTML that cannot be built into a "wizard".
>>
>> > If I am not to make absolutely positioned elements, how do I go about
>> > it?
>>
>> I didn't say that you are not to use absolutely positioned elements
>> (layers). I did say that if you are going to use them, you must not put
>> them directly into table cells, however. There are several other caveats
>> about using them, just as there are about using anything you put onto a
>> web
>> page.
>>
>> > Is it safe to only use tables/cells?
>>
>> Yes. Sometimes. 8(
>>
>> Here are the remaining steps you need to do to fix your page so that it
>> will
>> look as it does here - http://www.cm-context.dk/newweb - assuming you
>> have
>> already made the changes I described in my previous post -
>>
>> 1. Drag and drop the layer in the location where you want it to appear
>> on
>> the finished page.
>> 2. Change this -
>>
>> </head>
>>
>> to this -
>>
>> <style type="text/css">
>> <!--
>> body { text-align:center; }
>> #wrapper { text-align:left; width:850px; margin:0
>> auto;position:relative; }
>> -->
>> </style>
>> </head>
>>
>> change this -
>>
>> <body ...> (the elipsis represents everything else in the body tag)
>>
>> to this -
>>
>> <body ...>
>> <div id="wrapper">
>>
>> and this -
>>
>> </body>
>>
>> to this -
>>
>> </div><!-- /wrapper -->
>> </body>
>>
>> and see if that helps.
>>
>> The page will display properly in any browser viewport width, with the
>> layer
>> positioned as you want.
>>
>> By the way, an 850px wide table will give horizontal scrollbars on any
>> 800x600 screen....
>>
>> --
>> Murray
>> ============
>>
>> "carsten-m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:30981E08-5706-4115-8071-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Thanks again for replying
>> >
>> > "Learn from experience" you say. Hmmm. I was lead to believe that FP
>> > 2003
>> > with review on IE 6 was a "what you see is what you get" application,
>> > that
>> > you did not need to know "raw" html to work. I am not into "raw" html,
>> > have
>> > not got the time to learn it. Is there any other application that will
>> > work
>> > without knowledge of html, or will I encounter problems in any of
>> > these?
>> >
>> > If I am not to make absolutely positioned elements, how do I go about
>> > it?
>> > Is
>> > it safe to only use tables/cells?
>> >
>> > How it is meant to look: Again: Check the url:
>> > http://www.cm-context.dk/newweb
>> > with IE 6 versus i.e. Opera (the one I have compared it with)....
>> >
>> > kind regards
>> >
>> > "Murray" skrev:
>> >
>> >> > used a layer to form the "click for short intro" button
>> >>
>> >> That's absolute positioning. "Layers" are absolutely positioned
>> >> elements.
>> >> They should never be put directly into table cells.
>> >>
>> >> > And as I said: I have had no indication from FP 2003 or from review
>> >> > in IE 6 that this was no good??
>> >>
>> >> Yes - unfortunately this is something you only learn by experience.
>> >>
>> >> > but the result seems to be pretty much the same
>> >>
>> >> It's entirely possible, since I had no idea what I was trying to fix!
>> >> 8)
>> >>
>> >> But looking at your link - http://cm-context.dk/newweb_disc_group/ - I
>> >> can
>> >> see that the center image is now displaying properly aligned, whereas
>> >> before
>> >> it was not. Was that the problem?
>> >>
>> >> If that is the case, it appears that you need to do two more things
>> >> and
>> >> then
>> >> you will be done. Both will require that you work in the 'raw' HTML -
>> >> are
>> >> you up for the challenge?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Murray
>> >> ============
>> >>
>> >> "carsten-m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:B76A54B0-2B58-4F49-89EF-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > Thanks for your answer and your effort to help.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am not primarily concerned about Opera but merely the fact, that
>> >> > everything in this newly designed site works absolutely fine when
>> >> > tested
>> >> > in
>> >> > IE 6, but apparently not in other browsers? I have been using FP
>> >> > 2003
>> >> > as I
>> >> > would do PhotoShop, Illustrator and InDesign when I design brochures
>> >> > etc,
>> >> > meaning that I do not have to know anything of the coding that lyes
>> >> > behind
>> >> > the program.
>> >> >
>> >> > Please refer to the looks/appearence of the url:
>> >> > http://cm-context.dk/newweb
>> >> > in IE 6 for ref.
>> >> >
>> >> > You tell me, that "You must never put absolutely positioned elements
>> >> > directly into table cells". It may sound strange to you, but I do
>> >> > not
>> >> > know
>> >> > what absolute positioning means. I have in FP 2003 made a swap
>> >> > behavior
>> >> > and
>> >> > used a layer to form the "click for short intro" button to acitvate
>> >> > the
>> >> > swap
>> >> > behavior. I have made it as layer because it had to be on the top of
>> >> > the
>> >> > picture. And as I said: I have had no indication from FP 2003 or
>> >> > from
>> >> > review
>> >> > in IE 6 that this was no good??
>> >> >
>> >> > I have tried your suggestion,
>> >> > please ref. to url: http://cm-context.dk/newweb_disc_group
>> >> >
>> >> > As I do not programme in "raw" html I do not know, what theese
>> >> > changes
>> >> > are
>> >> > or what they do, but the result seems to be pretty much the same (if
>> >> > I
>> >> > have
>> >> > made the corrections the right way, that is) except that the
>> >> > "button"
>> >> > "Click
>> >> > here for more info" has disappeared from the screen - you have to
>> >> > scroll
>> >> > far
>> >> > down to find it. This is the same for IE 6 as for Opera (which other
>> >> > more
>> >> > significant browsers should I test it on)?
>> >> >
>> >> > How do I correct this, how do I go about, how concerned should I be?
>> >> >
>> >> > kind regards - and still hopefull
>> >> >
>> >> > carsten-m
>> >> >
>> >> > "Murray" skrev:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Why are you concerned about Opera with its very nearly
>> >> >> insignificant
>> >> >> market
>> >> >> share?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It would also help if you mentioned which things weren't working
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> you.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Anyhow - looking at the code, I can see that you have violated one
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> cardinal rules of using absolute positioning -
>> >> >>
>> >> >> <td width="260">
>> >> >> <div style="position: absolute; width: 260px; height:
>> >> >> 300px;
>> >> >> z-index: 2; padding-left: 130px; padding-top: 265px" id="click"
>> >> >> onclick="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'images/forside/animation.gif');
>> >> >> FP_changeProp(/*id*/'click',0,'style.visibility','hidden')">
>> >> >> <marquee behavior="slide" style="font-family: Verdana; color:
>> >> >> #CC0000;
>> >> >> font-size: 10pt" loop="1" width="140" class="handClass">Click for
>> >> >> short
>> >> >> intro</marquee></div>
>> >> >> <p> </p>
>> >> >> <p>
>> >> >> <img border="0"
>> >> >> src="images/forside/anim_right_still.jpg"
>> >> >> width="260" height="260" id="img1"></td>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You must never put absolutely positioned elements directly into
>> >> >> table
>> >> >> cells.
>> >> >> Perhaps by changing this markup to this -
>> >> >>
>> >> >> <td width="260">
>> >> >> <p> </p>
>> >> >> <p>
>> >> >> <img border="0"
>> >> >> src="images/forside/anim_right_still.jpg"
>> >> >> width="260" height="260" id="img1"></td>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> and then this -
>> >> >>
>> >> >> </body>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> to this -
>> >> >>
>> >> >> <div style="position: absolute; width: 260px; height:
>> >> >> 300px;
>> >> >> z-index: 2; padding-left: 130px; padding-top: 265px" id="click"
>> >> >> onclick="FP_swapImg(1,0,/*id*/'img1',/*url*/'images/forside/animation.gif');
>> >> >> FP_changeProp(/*id*/'click',0,'style.visibility','hidden')">
>> >> >> <marquee behavior="slide" style="font-family: Verdana; color:
>> >> >> #CC0000;
>> >> >> font-size: 10pt" loop="1" width="140" class="handClass">Click for
>> >> >> short
>> >> >> intro</marquee></div>
>> >> >> </body>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> you may well see that your problems go away.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Murray
>> >> >> ============
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "carsten-m" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:3DFFA98E-5BD8-4F8D-AF47-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >> > Hello
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I am designing a new web site for a client. I am fairly new to
>> >> >> > designing
>> >> >> > for/on web. I am using FP 2003 and have solved prior problems
>> >> >> > using
>> >> >> > this
>> >> >> > forum, so I try again:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Please refer to test site on url: http://www.cm-context.dk/newweb
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I have never checked the site on anything but IE 6.0 (did simply
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > think
>> >> >> > there could be a problem) but my attention has been brought to
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > fact,
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > the site is not compatible with Opera browser (and possible other
>> >> >> > browsers
>> >> >> > as
>> >> >> > well).
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Please, will anyone look at my site and possible tell me what I
>> >> >> > am
>> >> >> > doing
>> >> >> > wrong.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > hopes and regards
>> >> >> > carsten-m
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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