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      8th Apr 2007
I am having troubles accessing the links under Firefox. They work fine under
IE. I did choose the page compatibility option to work for both. I think
it has to do with the fact that these links were located inside a table.
The address is "www.atawebsite.org". Any assistance or suggestion is
greatly appreciated.
 
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      8th Apr 2007
I got really tired of dinkin' around with FF/IE compatibility issues - and
your site seems typical of the issues I was always having when viewing sites
under FireFox. I got tired of it and stopped using Firefox as a Browser
altogether. I mean I never even had time to check issues with Macs, Opera or
Netscape. It was as though FF and IE were the only two existents. That's
just not so. At one point I decided to just code for IE (only because I was
too lazy to learn the right way) but then, if I'm going to code for FF as
well then what about the other browsers, screen sizes, monitor sizes,
resolutions and people's eyesight. It's gotta be about accessibility for
all - not just FF and IE!

Having said that I did find a solution to the FF/IE discrepancies using
nested tables as a quick fix. There is also plenty written about those two
browsers implementation of css and html on a yahoo/msn search. My conclusion
is that I need to be a way way better programmer to sort all of that out...
and they are far from the only games in town. Far, far from it.

Anyways, because of all that I decided to skirt the whole issue and start to
use liquid css. I can't speak highly enough about it. Here's two great
tutorials below that opened my eyes to a whole new world.. Liquid css seems
to please everybody's browser, screen size, window size and eyesight all at
the same time! Accessibility for all is the guiding light.... for me,
learning to appease Firefox and Internet Explorer was a totally wrong
approach and did not go any ways toward making the web a better place.

Have fun with the two tutorials below and sorry to rant... .

http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectut...rial_intro.htm

http://meyerweb.com/eric/talks/2003/commug/commug.html

Spend a couple or three days on those tutorials and you won't have those
FF/IE issues again!

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"straveler" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I am having troubles accessing the links under Firefox. They work fine
>under
> IE. I did choose the page compatibility option to work for both. I
> think
> it has to do with the fact that these links were located inside a table.
> The address is "www.atawebsite.org". Any assistance or suggestion is
> greatly appreciated.


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      8th Apr 2007
check out Browser issues here.

http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presenta...dex_step01.htm


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"straveler" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I am having troubles accessing the links under Firefox. They work fine
>under
> IE. I did choose the page compatibility option to work for both. I
> think
> it has to do with the fact that these links were located inside a table.
> The address is "www.atawebsite.org". Any assistance or suggestion is
> greatly appreciated.


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      8th Apr 2007
The file and folder names have spaces and / or illegal characters in them.
Replace the spaces and ( ) with dashes -


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"straveler" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I am having troubles accessing the links under Firefox. They work fine under
> IE. I did choose the page compatibility option to work for both. I think
> it has to do with the fact that these links were located inside a table.
> The address is "www.atawebsite.org". Any assistance or suggestion is
> greatly appreciated.



 
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Charles W Davis
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      8th Apr 2007
Keith is correct in his rant.
URLs in a table are common.
Did you design the page in MS Word and copy and Paste to FrontPage? The long
string of
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
indicates that may be a part of a problem that you didn't mention. The
following code seldom equals the 438px height of the image on the home page.
As I change text size in the various browsers, Opera 9, Netscape 7, Avant
11, IE 7, or Firefox your copyright statement will either hide behind the
image or will reappear. Many of our club members have the text size set to
maximum so that they can read the text.
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
Place the image in a table with no height specified.

Your original question: Your individual page names may also be causing part
of the problem with links. For instance, the
page name Member Resources.htm develops code such as: <a
href="Member%20Resources.htm">
If you rename that page to memberresources.htm or member_resources.htm you
eliminate the translation of the space to %20.
Final comment: I'm sure that the Pair.com hosts provide far more reliable
statistics on site access than the FrontPage "hit counter."

Best of luck to you.
"straveler" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I am having troubles accessing the links under Firefox. They work fine
>under
> IE. I did choose the page compatibility option to work for both. I
> think
> it has to do with the fact that these links were located inside a table.
> The address is "www.atawebsite.org". Any assistance or suggestion is
> greatly appreciated.


 
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Paul S Wolf
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      8th Apr 2007
Try running it through a validator. You have at least 20 errors in your
coding.

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...website.org%2F

In addition to the other comments made already, you've used VML (Vector
Markup Language) to create text boxes, and other objects created by
using the Frontpage "drawing" toolbar. VML is a proprietary system.
ONLY IE on a Windows system can interpret it. Other browsers MAY see a
downgraded image, or nothing at all. Do NOT use anything on the
Frontpage drawing toolbar.

On 4/8/2007 2:18 AM, straveler wrote:
> I am having troubles accessing the links under Firefox. They work fine under
> IE. I did choose the page compatibility option to work for both. I think
> it has to do with the fact that these links were located inside a table.
> The address is "www.atawebsite.org". Any assistance or suggestion is
> greatly appreciated.


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      8th Apr 2007
In addition to Paul's comments, links in a text box will only work in
Internet Explorer running on Windows. Other browsers display an image,
and an image of a link is not a link. See
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/VML-graphics.htm for more details.

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"straveler" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I am having troubles accessing the links under Firefox. They work fine under
> IE. I did choose the page compatibility option to work for both. I think
> it has to do with the fact that these links were located inside a table.
> The address is "www.atawebsite.org". Any assistance or suggestion is
> greatly appreciated.


 
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      9th Apr 2007
---------------------------------snip------------------------
> Anyways, because of all that I decided to skirt the whole issue and start
> to use liquid css. I can't speak highly enough about it..

--------------------snip-------------------------
>
> http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectut...rial_intro.htm
>
> http://meyerweb.com/eric/talks/2003/commug/commug.html
>
> Spend a couple or three days on those tutorials and you won't have those
> FF/IE issues again!
>

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Thank you. After your "rant" you caught me completely off guard with these
lovely css links.

Thanks,
Tom Miller, Hobbyist

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      9th Apr 2007
Thank you all for your generous advices. This is the first time that I
post. I am
pleasantly surprise by your warm and helpful responses. I am a beginner
and use mainly Frontpage. Thanks again.
"straveler" wrote:

> I am having troubles accessing the links under Firefox. They work fine under
> IE. I did choose the page compatibility option to work for both. I think
> it has to do with the fact that these links were located inside a table.
> The address is "www.atawebsite.org". Any assistance or suggestion is
> greatly appreciated.

 
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      10th Apr 2007
Tom, you're welcome and I hope these don't inspire you to have to rebuild
too many web sites!!! I already see a year's work ahead of me rebuilding
sites into these liquid formats *sigh*. Just makin' the web a better place,
1 page at a time!

Aye...


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"Tom Miller" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> ---------------------------------snip------------------------
>> Anyways, because of all that I decided to skirt the whole issue and start
>> to use liquid css. I can't speak highly enough about it..

> --------------------snip-------------------------
>>
>> http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectut...rial_intro.htm
>>
>> http://meyerweb.com/eric/talks/2003/commug/commug.html
>>
>> Spend a couple or three days on those tutorials and you won't have those
>> FF/IE issues again!
>>

> --------------------------------------snip-----------------
>
> Thank you. After your "rant" you caught me completely off guard with
> these lovely css links.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Miller, Hobbyist
>
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