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Broadcast packets not blocked by filter ?!?

 
 
Skybuck Flying
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      10th Jul 2009
Hello,

I banned ip address: 7.0.79.54 in windows xp policy etc...

(This is a virtual ip)

To my surprise the broadcast packets are not blocked ?

(Only unicast packets are blocked ?!?)

So for example udp packet:

Source IP: 7.0.79.54
Dest IP: 255.255.255.255

^^^ Is not blocked.

While

Source IP: 7.0.79.54
Dest IP: My IP

^^^ Is blocked ?!?!?

I guess I have to add a special rule for broadcast packets ?!

Hmm...

Gonna try it...

Later,
Bye,
Skybuck.


 
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Skybuck Flying
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      10th Jul 2009
So far I base the rules on "destination addres/ip".

Before I try a special broadcast rule....

First I try a "source address/ip" rule...

Maybe that will work for banning broadcast packets too...

Bye,
Skybuck.

"Skybuck Flying" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:7a36e$4a57b48b$d53372a9$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello,
>
> I banned ip address: 7.0.79.54 in windows xp policy etc...
>
> (This is a virtual ip)
>
> To my surprise the broadcast packets are not blocked ?
>
> (Only unicast packets are blocked ?!?)
>
> So for example udp packet:
>
> Source IP: 7.0.79.54
> Dest IP: 255.255.255.255
>
> ^^^ Is not blocked.
>
> While
>
> Source IP: 7.0.79.54
> Dest IP: My IP
>
> ^^^ Is blocked ?!?!?
>
> I guess I have to add a special rule for broadcast packets ?!
>
> Hmm...
>
> Gonna try it...
>
> Later,
> Bye,
> Skybuck.
>



 
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Skybuck Flying
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      10th Jul 2009
Nope that doesn't seem to work.

I choose filter option "block".

Instead of the "request security".

(Maybe block don't work ? but unicast it does seem to block so this is
weird).

Maybe this is a broadcast bug in the filter ?!?

Now I am gonna try a special broacast rule.

Bye,
Skybuck.

"Skybuck Flying" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:34624$4a57b566$d53372a9$(E-Mail Removed)...
> So far I base the rules on "destination addres/ip".
>
> Before I try a special broadcast rule....
>
> First I try a "source address/ip" rule...
>
> Maybe that will work for banning broadcast packets too...
>
> Bye,
> Skybuck.
>
> "Skybuck Flying" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:7a36e$4a57b48b$d53372a9$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I banned ip address: 7.0.79.54 in windows xp policy etc...
>>
>> (This is a virtual ip)
>>
>> To my surprise the broadcast packets are not blocked ?
>>
>> (Only unicast packets are blocked ?!?)
>>
>> So for example udp packet:
>>
>> Source IP: 7.0.79.54
>> Dest IP: 255.255.255.255
>>
>> ^^^ Is not blocked.
>>
>> While
>>
>> Source IP: 7.0.79.54
>> Dest IP: My IP
>>
>> ^^^ Is blocked ?!?!?
>>
>> I guess I have to add a special rule for broadcast packets ?!
>>
>> Hmm...
>>
>> Gonna try it...
>>
>> Later,
>> Bye,
>> Skybuck.
>>

>
>



 
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Skybuck Flying
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      10th Jul 2009
Hmm weird... the source rule disappeared gonna try again first

Bye,
Skybuck.

"Skybuck Flying" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:a3df8$4a57b65d$d53372a9$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Nope that doesn't seem to work.
>
> I choose filter option "block".
>
> Instead of the "request security".
>
> (Maybe block don't work ? but unicast it does seem to block so this is
> weird).
>
> Maybe this is a broadcast bug in the filter ?!?
>
> Now I am gonna try a special broacast rule.
>
> Bye,
> Skybuck.
>
> "Skybuck Flying" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:34624$4a57b566$d53372a9$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> So far I base the rules on "destination addres/ip".
>>
>> Before I try a special broadcast rule....
>>
>> First I try a "source address/ip" rule...
>>
>> Maybe that will work for banning broadcast packets too...
>>
>> Bye,
>> Skybuck.
>>
>> "Skybuck Flying" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:7a36e$4a57b48b$d53372a9$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I banned ip address: 7.0.79.54 in windows xp policy etc...
>>>
>>> (This is a virtual ip)
>>>
>>> To my surprise the broadcast packets are not blocked ?
>>>
>>> (Only unicast packets are blocked ?!?)
>>>
>>> So for example udp packet:
>>>
>>> Source IP: 7.0.79.54
>>> Dest IP: 255.255.255.255
>>>
>>> ^^^ Is not blocked.
>>>
>>> While
>>>
>>> Source IP: 7.0.79.54
>>> Dest IP: My IP
>>>
>>> ^^^ Is blocked ?!?!?
>>>
>>> I guess I have to add a special rule for broadcast packets ?!
>>>
>>> Hmm...
>>>
>>> Gonna try it...
>>>
>>> Later,
>>> Bye,
>>> Skybuck.
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



 
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Skybuck Flying
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      10th Jul 2009
Maybe it got removed because it was invalid or conflicting...

I tried again... this time it worked for the broadcast packets...

But unicast both ways blocked not...

So I would have to add a special rule to block unicast in both ways...

This kinda sux because it requires two rules... which is double as much work
but ok.

Also trying to ban 255.255.255.255 for a specific source is not possible...

So I had to choose "any ip" which is a bit strange but ok

End result:

Broadcast packets banned for ip X
Unicast packets banned for ip X both ways.

However I also noticed something weird:

The broadcast packets were still showing up in the wireshark sniffer...

Apperently broadcast packets follow a different route through the windows
filter/firewall/policy logic ?!?!?

^ Weird... might be exploitable too ^ For example "broadcast attacks on
VPLAN's" might still work.

Bye,
Skybuck.


"Skybuck Flying" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:e1df7$4a57b6aa$d53372a9$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hmm weird... the source rule disappeared gonna try again first
>
> Bye,
> Skybuck.
>
> "Skybuck Flying" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:a3df8$4a57b65d$d53372a9$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Nope that doesn't seem to work.
>>
>> I choose filter option "block".
>>
>> Instead of the "request security".
>>
>> (Maybe block don't work ? but unicast it does seem to block so this is
>> weird).
>>
>> Maybe this is a broadcast bug in the filter ?!?
>>
>> Now I am gonna try a special broacast rule.
>>
>> Bye,
>> Skybuck.
>>
>> "Skybuck Flying" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:34624$4a57b566$d53372a9$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> So far I base the rules on "destination addres/ip".
>>>
>>> Before I try a special broadcast rule....
>>>
>>> First I try a "source address/ip" rule...
>>>
>>> Maybe that will work for banning broadcast packets too...
>>>
>>> Bye,
>>> Skybuck.
>>>
>>> "Skybuck Flying" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:7a36e$4a57b48b$d53372a9$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I banned ip address: 7.0.79.54 in windows xp policy etc...
>>>>
>>>> (This is a virtual ip)
>>>>
>>>> To my surprise the broadcast packets are not blocked ?
>>>>
>>>> (Only unicast packets are blocked ?!?)
>>>>
>>>> So for example udp packet:
>>>>
>>>> Source IP: 7.0.79.54
>>>> Dest IP: 255.255.255.255
>>>>
>>>> ^^^ Is not blocked.
>>>>
>>>> While
>>>>
>>>> Source IP: 7.0.79.54
>>>> Dest IP: My IP
>>>>
>>>> ^^^ Is blocked ?!?!?
>>>>
>>>> I guess I have to add a special rule for broadcast packets ?!
>>>>
>>>> Hmm...
>>>>
>>>> Gonna try it...
>>>>
>>>> Later,
>>>> Bye,
>>>> Skybuck.
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



 
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Frank Holman
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      10th Jul 2009
"Skybuck Flying" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:


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