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coltrane
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      14th Nov 2010
I planning on building a new system and I have been seeing a lot of
cases where the power supply mounts on the bottom of the case. I have
never seen this before. Is there a benefit to bottom mounting?

thanks for the feedback

John
 
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coltrane
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      15th Nov 2010
> The Antec Three
> Hundred, for instance, has a couple of 160mm fans in that corner that
> can quietly move a lot of air from around the CPU.
>

thanks, that's the case I am looking at.
 
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coltrane
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      15th Nov 2010
> Another advantage of this very neat wiring. With bottom
> mount PSUs, the most of the power wiring can be routed
> behind the motherboard mounting plate, and excess cable
> length can be hidden there.
>

thanks. I would have never thought of running wiring behind the mb.


 
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Brian Cryer
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      15th Nov 2010
"coltrane" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I planning on building a new system and I have been seeing a lot of cases
>where the power supply mounts on the bottom of the case. I have never seen
>this before. Is there a benefit to bottom mounting?


I'm sure I read somewhere (possibly in this newsgroup ages back) about the
problem of dust with bottom mounted power supplies. Yes, it was in this
newsgroup:
http://alt.newsgroups.archived.at/co...314126512.html -
looking back the consensus seemed to be that dust would be unlikley to be a
problem (YMMV). While looking for this I have read comments elsewhere which
implied that dust could be a problem, but none which indicated it IS a
problem.

Given that hot air rises you do have the advantage with a bottom mounted
supply that the power supply should run cooler. On the other hand this would
imply that other components might run hotter - so you then need a fan at the
top of the case to get rid of the hot air - which I assume would be
provided.
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coltrane
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      15th Nov 2010
> I'm sure I read somewhere (possibly in this newsgroup ages back) about
> the problem of dust with bottom mounted power supplies. Yes, it was in
> this newsgroup:
> http://alt.newsgroups.archived.at/co...314126512.html
> - looking back the consensus seemed to be that dust would be unlikley to
> be a problem (YMMV). While looking for this I have read comments
> elsewhere which implied that dust could be a problem, but none which
> indicated it IS a problem.

The case I am looking at says it has filters to prevent dust. This
doesn't apply to the PSU so dust might be an issue especially being on
bottom.
>
> Given that hot air rises you do have the advantage with a bottom mounted
> supply that the power supply should run cooler. On the other hand this
> would imply that other components might run hotter - so you then need a
> fan at the top of the case to get rid of the hot air - which I assume
> would be provided.

The case does have 2 fans on the top.

thanks
 
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Gorby
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      15th Nov 2010
On 16/11/2010 1:36 AM, coltrane wrote:
>> I'm sure I read somewhere (possibly in this newsgroup ages back) about
>> the problem of dust with bottom mounted power supplies. Yes, it was in
>> this newsgroup:
>> http://alt.newsgroups.archived.at/co...314126512.html
>> - looking back the consensus seemed to be that dust would be unlikley to
>> be a problem (YMMV). While looking for this I have read comments
>> elsewhere which implied that dust could be a problem, but none which
>> indicated it IS a problem.

> The case I am looking at says it has filters to prevent dust. This
> doesn't apply to the PSU so dust might be an issue especially being on
> bottom.
>>
>> Given that hot air rises you do have the advantage with a bottom mounted
>> supply that the power supply should run cooler. On the other hand this
>> would imply that other components might run hotter - so you then need a
>> fan at the top of the case to get rid of the hot air - which I assume
>> would be provided.

> The case does have 2 fans on the top.
>
> thanks

Even with top mounted PSUs, I always try to keep PCs off the floor to
reduce dust build-up. Even 2cms above the floor reduces dust
significantly. If you have to put your PC on the floor, put it on an old
phone book to get it up a bit.
 
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      16th Nov 2010


"Ian D" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> The PSU is usually in its own compartment, basically
> sealed off from the rest of the case, except for cable
> routing openings. Also, there is a fan, and probably
> a drive bay for 2 HDs, all in line with the PSU. There's
> a straight line front to back air flow.


Antec does indeed make cases where the power supply is in a separate
compartment but these are not the norm and may be more expensive than what
the original poster wants to spend.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129061

The original poster is looking at the 300 series cases which are more
affordable but do no feature a separate compartment for the PS or behind the
motherboard wiring. The 300s are still a good buy though.


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Brian Cryer
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      16th Nov 2010
"coltrane" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> I'm sure I read somewhere (possibly in this newsgroup ages back) about
>> the problem of dust with bottom mounted power supplies. Yes, it was in
>> this newsgroup:
>> http://alt.newsgroups.archived.at/co...314126512.html
>> - looking back the consensus seemed to be that dust would be unlikley to
>> be a problem (YMMV). While looking for this I have read comments
>> elsewhere which implied that dust could be a problem, but none which
>> indicated it IS a problem.

> The case I am looking at says it has filters to prevent dust. This doesn't
> apply to the PSU so dust might be an issue especially being on bottom.


I suppose that since the PSU sucks air out of the case, having filters on
the main points of entry should help.

If you end up buying it then don't forget to periodically look at your
filters to clean them. I had a bit of a shock over the weekend at how much
dust was in one of my filters on my pc.

>> Given that hot air rises you do have the advantage with a bottom mounted
>> supply that the power supply should run cooler. On the other hand this
>> would imply that other components might run hotter - so you then need a
>> fan at the top of the case to get rid of the hot air - which I assume
>> would be provided.

> The case does have 2 fans on the top.


Sounds reqsonable.
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Jon Danniken
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      16th Nov 2010
Brian Cryer wrote:
> Given that hot air rises you do have the advantage with a bottom
> mounted supply that the power supply should run cooler. On the other
> hand this would imply that other components might run hotter - so you
> then need a fan at the top of the case to get rid of the hot air -
> which I assume would be provided.


Hot air does rise, in the absence of other air movement, but what happens
when there are multiple fans interrupting it, directing it along pre-defined
pathways?

Jon





 
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peter
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      17th Nov 2010
I would suggest you add a 120mm fan to the front.This would keep your HD
cooler
The top 2 fans draw the hot air from the CPU cooler out.
The bottom mounted PSU will draw fresh air in if you buy the right model and
the
PSU Fan will blow that cool air over the inside of the PSU and out the back
of the PSU
Theoretically none of the hot PSU air should enter the case.
After looking at this Article you might want to reconsider that purchase
but then it all depends upon what your putting inside
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3439

You might want to consider the 600 for only $20.00 more

peter



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"coltrane" wrote in message news:4ce14c56$0$7118$(E-Mail Removed)...

> I'm sure I read somewhere (possibly in this newsgroup ages back) about
> the problem of dust with bottom mounted power supplies. Yes, it was in
> this newsgroup:
> http://alt.newsgroups.archived.at/co...314126512.html
> - looking back the consensus seemed to be that dust would be unlikley to
> be a problem (YMMV). While looking for this I have read comments
> elsewhere which implied that dust could be a problem, but none which
> indicated it IS a problem.

The case I am looking at says it has filters to prevent dust. This
doesn't apply to the PSU so dust might be an issue especially being on
bottom.
>
> Given that hot air rises you do have the advantage with a bottom mounted
> supply that the power supply should run cooler. On the other hand this
> would imply that other components might run hotter - so you then need a
> fan at the top of the case to get rid of the hot air - which I assume
> would be provided.

The case does have 2 fans on the top.

thanks

 
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