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cccharlee@inbox.com
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      7th Jan 2008
I install Vista Ultimate on one PC. It is an HP Pavilion a1700n.

I remove the 40 GB IDE HD from the HP PC and put it into a Compaq EVO
510 PC.

Result: Vista does not boot.

I have researched the subject but still have not found a solution.

The microsoft vista deployment step by step seems awfully complex.

Has anyone found a simple way to solve this problem?

I have also tried the reverse (from compaq to HP PC): Same result!

With XP I could boot into safe mode or just boot normally and XP would
detect and install the new hardware it finds.

Somtimes I would need to install XP from CD on the target PC to copy
the boot.ini and hall.dll files to a usb flash drive. Then I would
restore the image of XP on the target PC. I would boot into recovery
console and copy the files form the flash drive to the target PC
(boot.ini to C:\ and hal.dll to C:\windows\system32). Most times I
could then boot the target PC normally or in safe mode.

However, with Vista I am stymied!

Any practical solution?

Chris

http://drpcdr.ca
 
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Tim Slattery
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      7th Jan 2008
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>I install Vista Ultimate on one PC. It is an HP Pavilion a1700n.
>
>I remove the 40 GB IDE HD from the HP PC and put it into a Compaq EVO
>510 PC.
>
>Result: Vista does not boot.


First: you should be posting in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

Second: it sounds like this is an OEM version of Vista that came
preinstalled on your HP computer. An OEM system cannot be transferred
to a different computer, even if the original machine no longer
exists. The HP OS is probably BIOS-locked to the HP motherboard it was
originally running on. There's no way to get it to run anyplace else.

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MS MVP(Shell/User)
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      7th Jan 2008

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-----Clipped------
> However, with Vista I am stymied!
>
> Any practical solution?
>
> Chris
>
> http://drpcdr.ca


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NoConsequence
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      8th Jan 2008
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:15:25 -0800 (PST), (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>I install Vista Ultimate on one PC. It is an HP Pavilion a1700n.
>
>I remove the 40 GB IDE HD from the HP PC and put it into a Compaq EVO
>510 PC.
>
>Result: Vista does not boot.
>
>I have researched the subject but still have not found a solution.
>
>The microsoft vista deployment step by step seems awfully complex.
>
>Has anyone found a simple way to solve this problem?
>
>I have also tried the reverse (from compaq to HP PC): Same result!
>
>With XP I could boot into safe mode or just boot normally and XP would
>detect and install the new hardware it finds.
>
>Somtimes I would need to install XP from CD on the target PC to copy
>the boot.ini and hall.dll files to a usb flash drive. Then I would
>restore the image of XP on the target PC. I would boot into recovery
>console and copy the files form the flash drive to the target PC
>(boot.ini to C:\ and hal.dll to C:\windows\system32). Most times I
>could then boot the target PC normally or in safe mode.
>
>However, with Vista I am stymied!
>
>Any practical solution?
>
>Chris
>
>http://drpcdr.ca


Sure. The most practical solution would be to ask in a group with
VISTA in it's title. Notice this group lacks that.

Ask elsewhere.

 
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      8th Jan 2008
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>
> I install Vista Ultimate on one PC. It is an HP Pavilion a1700n.
>
> I remove the 40 GB IDE HD from the HP PC and put it into a Compaq EVO
> 510 PC.
>
> Result: Vista does not boot.


That's a feature of both XP and Vista. If you want Vista on your HP then
install it fresh, assuming you dont have a proprietary version of Vista.







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M.I.5¾
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      8th Jan 2008

"NoConsequence" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:15:25 -0800 (PST), (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
>>I install Vista Ultimate on one PC. It is an HP Pavilion a1700n.
>>
>>I remove the 40 GB IDE HD from the HP PC and put it into a Compaq EVO
>>510 PC.
>>
>>Result: Vista does not boot.
>>
>>I have researched the subject but still have not found a solution.
>>
>>The microsoft vista deployment step by step seems awfully complex.
>>
>>Has anyone found a simple way to solve this problem?
>>
>>I have also tried the reverse (from compaq to HP PC): Same result!
>>
>>With XP I could boot into safe mode or just boot normally and XP would
>>detect and install the new hardware it finds.
>>
>>Somtimes I would need to install XP from CD on the target PC to copy
>>the boot.ini and hall.dll files to a usb flash drive. Then I would
>>restore the image of XP on the target PC. I would boot into recovery
>>console and copy the files form the flash drive to the target PC
>>(boot.ini to C:\ and hal.dll to C:\windows\system32). Most times I
>>could then boot the target PC normally or in safe mode.
>>
>>However, with Vista I am stymied!
>>
>>Any practical solution?
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>http://drpcdr.ca

>
> Sure. The most practical solution would be to ask in a group with
> VISTA in it's title. Notice this group lacks that.
>
> Ask elsewhere.
>


Not every server has caught up with the Vista newsgroups. This is, thus,
the nearest such people are likely to get.

Self appointed usenet nazis are not welcome so I suggest you just **** off
elsewhere if you don't like the content of this newsgroup. I note that at
least some people have had the courtesy to answer the OP without whingeing.


 
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NoConsequence
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      9th Jan 2008
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 13:01:26 -0000, "M.I.5¾"
<(E-Mail Removed)_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"NoConsequence" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:15:25 -0800 (PST), (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>
>>>I install Vista Ultimate on one PC. It is an HP Pavilion a1700n.
>>>
>>>I remove the 40 GB IDE HD from the HP PC and put it into a Compaq EVO
>>>510 PC.
>>>
>>>Result: Vista does not boot.
>>>
>>>I have researched the subject but still have not found a solution.
>>>
>>>The microsoft vista deployment step by step seems awfully complex.
>>>
>>>Has anyone found a simple way to solve this problem?
>>>
>>>I have also tried the reverse (from compaq to HP PC): Same result!
>>>
>>>With XP I could boot into safe mode or just boot normally and XP would
>>>detect and install the new hardware it finds.
>>>
>>>Somtimes I would need to install XP from CD on the target PC to copy
>>>the boot.ini and hall.dll files to a usb flash drive. Then I would
>>>restore the image of XP on the target PC. I would boot into recovery
>>>console and copy the files form the flash drive to the target PC
>>>(boot.ini to C:\ and hal.dll to C:\windows\system32). Most times I
>>>could then boot the target PC normally or in safe mode.
>>>
>>>However, with Vista I am stymied!
>>>
>>>Any practical solution?
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>http://drpcdr.ca

>>
>> Sure. The most practical solution would be to ask in a group with
>> VISTA in it's title. Notice this group lacks that.
>>
>> Ask elsewhere.
>>

>
>Not every server has caught up with the Vista newsgroups. This is, thus,
>the nearest such people are likely to get.
>
>Self appointed usenet nazis are not welcome so I suggest you just **** off
>elsewhere if you don't like the content of this newsgroup. I note that at
>least some people have had the courtesy to answer the OP without whingeing.
>


Suggestion denied - and are you not becoming a Usenet Nazi by telling
me not to post here? The truth hurts, doesnt' it.

If they don't get a good feed for groups, they should get a better
news server and probelm solved.

 
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M.I.5¾
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      9th Jan 2008

"NoConsequence" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 13:01:26 -0000, "M.I.5¾"
> <(E-Mail Removed)_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>"NoConsequence" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:15:25 -0800 (PST), (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>>
>>>>I install Vista Ultimate on one PC. It is an HP Pavilion a1700n.
>>>>
>>>>I remove the 40 GB IDE HD from the HP PC and put it into a Compaq EVO
>>>>510 PC.
>>>>
>>>>Result: Vista does not boot.
>>>>
>>>>I have researched the subject but still have not found a solution.
>>>>
>>>>The microsoft vista deployment step by step seems awfully complex.
>>>>
>>>>Has anyone found a simple way to solve this problem?
>>>>
>>>>I have also tried the reverse (from compaq to HP PC): Same result!
>>>>
>>>>With XP I could boot into safe mode or just boot normally and XP would
>>>>detect and install the new hardware it finds.
>>>>
>>>>Somtimes I would need to install XP from CD on the target PC to copy
>>>>the boot.ini and hall.dll files to a usb flash drive. Then I would
>>>>restore the image of XP on the target PC. I would boot into recovery
>>>>console and copy the files form the flash drive to the target PC
>>>>(boot.ini to C:\ and hal.dll to C:\windows\system32). Most times I
>>>>could then boot the target PC normally or in safe mode.
>>>>
>>>>However, with Vista I am stymied!
>>>>
>>>>Any practical solution?
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>>
>>>>http://drpcdr.ca
>>>
>>> Sure. The most practical solution would be to ask in a group with
>>> VISTA in it's title. Notice this group lacks that.
>>>
>>> Ask elsewhere.
>>>

>>
>>Not every server has caught up with the Vista newsgroups. This is, thus,
>>the nearest such people are likely to get.
>>
>>Self appointed usenet nazis are not welcome so I suggest you just **** off
>>elsewhere if you don't like the content of this newsgroup. I note that at
>>least some people have had the courtesy to answer the OP without
>>whingeing.
>>

>
> Suggestion denied - and are you not becoming a Usenet Nazi by telling
> me not to post here? The truth hurts, doesnt' it.
>


I have not suggested that you stop posting - only that if you are not
prepared to contribute to go elsewhere. Even a cursory glance at your recent
posts shows that you have never contributed anything to this newsgroup other
than continued rants about what others have posted. That makes you a usenet
nazi whether you like it or not.

I suspect many have already kilfiled you (judging by the fact that you
seldom (if ever) get a response) and having seen what your contribution is,
I am doing the same.

> If they don't get a good feed for groups, they should get a better
> news server and probelm solved.
>


Many are constrained as to what servers they can use by various factors.


 
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NoConsequence
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      10th Jan 2008
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 07:56:34 -0000, "M.I.5¾"
<(E-Mail Removed)_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"NoConsequence" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 13:01:26 -0000, "M.I.5¾"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"NoConsequence" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:15:25 -0800 (PST), (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I install Vista Ultimate on one PC. It is an HP Pavilion a1700n.
>>>>>
>>>>>I remove the 40 GB IDE HD from the HP PC and put it into a Compaq EVO
>>>>>510 PC.
>>>>>
>>>>>Result: Vista does not boot.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have researched the subject but still have not found a solution.
>>>>>
>>>>>The microsoft vista deployment step by step seems awfully complex.
>>>>>
>>>>>Has anyone found a simple way to solve this problem?
>>>>>
>>>>>I have also tried the reverse (from compaq to HP PC): Same result!
>>>>>
>>>>>With XP I could boot into safe mode or just boot normally and XP would
>>>>>detect and install the new hardware it finds.
>>>>>
>>>>>Somtimes I would need to install XP from CD on the target PC to copy
>>>>>the boot.ini and hall.dll files to a usb flash drive. Then I would
>>>>>restore the image of XP on the target PC. I would boot into recovery
>>>>>console and copy the files form the flash drive to the target PC
>>>>>(boot.ini to C:\ and hal.dll to C:\windows\system32). Most times I
>>>>>could then boot the target PC normally or in safe mode.
>>>>>
>>>>>However, with Vista I am stymied!
>>>>>
>>>>>Any practical solution?
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>http://drpcdr.ca
>>>>
>>>> Sure. The most practical solution would be to ask in a group with
>>>> VISTA in it's title. Notice this group lacks that.
>>>>
>>>> Ask elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Not every server has caught up with the Vista newsgroups. This is, thus,
>>>the nearest such people are likely to get.
>>>
>>>Self appointed usenet nazis are not welcome so I suggest you just **** off
>>>elsewhere if you don't like the content of this newsgroup. I note that at
>>>least some people have had the courtesy to answer the OP without
>>>whingeing.
>>>

>>
>> Suggestion denied - and are you not becoming a Usenet Nazi by telling
>> me not to post here? The truth hurts, doesnt' it.
>>

>
>I have not suggested that you stop posting - only that if you are not
>prepared to contribute to go elsewhere. Even a cursory glance at your recent
>posts shows that you have never contributed anything to this newsgroup other
>than continued rants about what others have posted. That makes you a usenet
>nazi whether you like it or not.
>
>I suspect many have already kilfiled you (judging by the fact that you
>seldom (if ever) get a response) and having seen what your contribution is,
>I am doing the same.
>
>> If they don't get a good feed for groups, they should get a better
>> news server and probelm solved.
>>

>
>Many are constrained as to what servers they can use by various factors.
>

You want to play in Usenet, find a good server. There is no better
way.

 
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cccharlee@inbox.com
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      12th Jan 2008
Guesss what guys? I have proved you all wrong in the past, now the
present and soon the future as well!

I have had some preliminary success in my experiments.
Further experimentation is necessary!

Purpose: to boot vista (installed on an HP a1700n) on a Compaq Evo
510.

Apparatus: 1 Compaq Evo PC, 1 HP a1700n PC, 1 40 GB HD, 1 20GB HD, a
3rd HD drive with a functioning Windows XP installed, 1 Vista Ultimate
CD, one 2 GB flash drive (a 500 MB flash drive will do), Freediff
software from http://saltybrine.com

Method: Iinstalled Vista Ultimate on HP Pavilion a1700n using 40 GB HD
Also installed Vista on Compaq Evo 510 PC on 20 GB HD

On HP PC:

Installed Vista from Vista CD onto 40 GB HD

1. Set folder options to see all protected system files and folders

2. In command prompt piped the output of the dir command to a text
file on my flsah drive as follows:
c:\windows>dir *.* >e:\win1.txt
c:\windows>cd system32
c:\windows\system32>dir *.* >e:\sys1.txt

3. disabled hiberfil.sys in command prompt: as follows:
c:\windows\system32>powercfg /h off
Restarted the PC and observed that hiberfil.sys had disappeared from
root directory, C:\

4. Told windows to not use paging file and deleted pagefile.sys from
root directory, c:

On Compaq Evo 510 PC:

Installed Vista from Vista CD onto 20 GB HD

1. Set folder options to see all protected system files and folders

2. In command prompt piped the output of the dir command to a text
file on my flsah drive as follows:
c:\windows>dir *.* >e:\win2.txt
c:\windows>cd system32
c:\windows\system32>dir *.* >e:\sys2.txt

3. Disconnected 20 GB HD and reattached my 250 GB HD setup with XP pro
SP2.

4. Downloaded and installed freediff.

5 Ran freediff comparing win1.txt with win2.txt and sys1.txt with
sys2.txt.

6. Noted the differences highligted by freediff.

7. Attached the 20 GB HD as slave to compaq Evo 510 and booted into XP

8. Took full possession of the permissions on the windows folder
(Vista) on the 20 GB HD

9. copied all the files and folders reported to be different by
freediff from windows to my flashdrive folder, win

10. copied all the files and folders reported to be different by
freediff from windows\system32 to my flashdrive folder, sys.

11. Disconnected 20 GB HD and connected 40 GB HD as slave and booted
into XP.

12. Deleted files and folders reported to be different by freediff and
replaced them with the files and folders on my flash drive. All files
and folders in the win directory on my flash drive were copied to the
windows directory on the 40 GB HD and all files and folders in the sys
directory on my flash drive were copied to the windows\system32
directory on the 40 GB HD.

13. Connected 40 GB HD as master on IDE 1 and booted normally. I
received the following error:

windows\system32\config\system
status 0xc000000f

info: windowas failed to load because the system registry file is
missing or corrupt

14. I put the Vista CD in the cd drive and booted into vista repair.
Vista repair recovered the regiistry from a backup.

15. I booted into safe mode successfully

16. I rebooted normally successfully.

Now the question is: can I get an image of Vista created on the HP
a1700n (and loaded with programs and tweaks) to function on the Compaq
Evo?

That will be my next experiment!




NoConsequence wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 07:56:34 -0000, "M.I.5�"
> <(E-Mail Removed)_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> >"NoConsequence" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 13:01:26 -0000, "M.I.5�"
> >> <(E-Mail Removed)_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>"NoConsequence" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:15:25 -0800 (PST), (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>I install Vista Ultimate on one PC. It is an HP Pavilion a1700n.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I remove the 40 GB IDE HD from the HP PC and put it into a Compaq EVO
> >>>>>510 PC.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Result: Vista does not boot.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I have researched the subject but still have not found a solution.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The microsoft vista deployment step by step seems awfully complex.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Has anyone found a simple way to solve this problem?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I have also tried the reverse (from compaq to HP PC): Same result!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>With XP I could boot into safe mode or just boot normally and XP would
> >>>>>detect and install the new hardware it finds.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Somtimes I would need to install XP from CD on the target PC to copy
> >>>>>the boot.ini and hall.dll files to a usb flash drive. Then I would
> >>>>>restore the image of XP on the target PC. I would boot into recovery
> >>>>>console and copy the files form the flash drive to the target PC
> >>>>>(boot.ini to C:\ and hal.dll to C:\windows\system32). Most times I
> >>>>>could then boot the target PC normally or in safe mode.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>However, with Vista I am stymied!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Any practical solution?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Chris
> >>>>>
> >>>>>http://drpcdr.ca
> >>>>
> >>>> Sure. The most practical solution would be to ask in a group with
> >>>> VISTA in it's title. Notice this group lacks that.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ask elsewhere.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Not every server has caught up with the Vista newsgroups. This is, thus,
> >>>the nearest such people are likely to get.
> >>>
> >>>Self appointed usenet nazis are not welcome so I suggest you just **** off
> >>>elsewhere if you don't like the content of this newsgroup. I note thatat
> >>>least some people have had the courtesy to answer the OP without
> >>>whingeing.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Suggestion denied - and are you not becoming a Usenet Nazi by telling
> >> me not to post here? The truth hurts, doesnt' it.
> >>

> >
> >I have not suggested that you stop posting - only that if you are not
> >prepared to contribute to go elsewhere. Even a cursory glance at your recent
> >posts shows that you have never contributed anything to this newsgroup other
> >than continued rants about what others have posted. That makes you a usenet
> >nazi whether you like it or not.
> >
> >I suspect many have already kilfiled you (judging by the fact that you
> >seldom (if ever) get a response) and having seen what your contribution is,
> >I am doing the same.
> >
> >> If they don't get a good feed for groups, they should get a better
> >> news server and probelm solved.
> >>

> >
> >Many are constrained as to what servers they can use by various factors.
> >

> You want to play in Usenet, find a good server. There is no better
> way.

 
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