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Boot takes 10 times longer then XP, why?

 
 
Micheal
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      19th Nov 2006
I have just installed Vista and the bootup-time was very unsatisfying: I
have to wait round about 1 minute (!).

Right after the bios screen i am presented with nothing but a black screen.
Nothing happens then.. There is no HD-activity.. it's like the PC is on
idle.. after 1 Minute i can see the progress bar from the booting sequence
(the one that looks like xp boot). Then everything goes pretty normal and i
can log in.

Okay.. i am a poweruser and barely reboot at all, but this is something i
would like to see vanish before i feel absolutely comfortable with this new
operating system.

Any help is much appreciated.

 
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Rick Rogers
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      20th Nov 2006
Hi,

Certainly shouldn't take that long. I would try to repair the startup first
by booting the Vista disk and trying the repair options.

At a guess, I'd say there may possibly be a hard drive detection issue, a
timing miscoonfiguration, or missing/corrupt boot file (where the inactive
period is a time out while it figures out what to do). Ensure that you are
not overclocking as well.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Micheal" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:702237DE-4BE7-49ED-B683-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have just installed Vista and the bootup-time was very unsatisfying: I
>have to wait round about 1 minute (!).
>
> Right after the bios screen i am presented with nothing but a black
> screen. Nothing happens then.. There is no HD-activity.. it's like the PC
> is on idle.. after 1 Minute i can see the progress bar from the booting
> sequence (the one that looks like xp boot). Then everything goes pretty
> normal and i can log in.
>
> Okay.. i am a poweruser and barely reboot at all, but this is something i
> would like to see vanish before i feel absolutely comfortable with this
> new operating system.
>
> Any help is much appreciated.


 
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TheNetAvenger
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      20th Nov 2006
Give the system a day or two. On a new installation, Vista does extra
monitoring and maintenance during boot. After these are out of the way,
usually 2-4 boots, then it will start to get faster, as the prefetch
technologies will be monitoring your boot time and adjust the system for the
best performance possible.

For example, on one Laptop I have, the first boot time was like 3-4min, as
it was timing out because of a driver. On the next boot, the time as 2-3min
as Vista no longer tried the bad driver access method it used on the first
boot.

So give it a chance to figure out the fastest order to load drivers, and
initialize the system, as well as get the initial reporting and maintenance
steps out of the way.

This is just like the HD activity on a new Vista installation after the
machine is booted. The HD activity and even the performance during this
phase is a bit annoying as Vista goes through your entire system and indexes
files and folder and creates thumbnail caches and then defrags the
installation on the HD for the best performance. (Each on their own isn't a
problem, but at first when all this is happening at once for the entire
system, it makes the HD light quite bright.)

I recommend that Users let Vista run through the night getting all this
stuff out of the way, and then you can feel how snappy and fast Vista really
is, since you can't base the performance on the initial installation feel.

Also the caching system in Vista keeps getting smarter and smarter, and
after a day or so of use, you will find the programs you use will seem to
fly open, as Vista monitors your work patterns and pre-loads HD information
into the cache based on how the program loads, but also on how you work and
the order you normally use and access programs and tools on the computer.
Trust me, you will be shocked when you go to open a slow loading program
like CorelDraw and it opens in a second, or even Word just seems to pop open
like it was already running, when it wasn't.

BTW The boot time after a few days seems to be about 5 secs longer than XP
based on our testing installations. There are a few systems where it is also
faster, but it averages out to be a few seconds slower for the full boot.
(Considering how much more Vista is doing over XP, this is something that is
worth the few seconds.)

Also if you are like me, I use sleep and Hibernate for everything, and these
work quite well in Vista, so rebooting for an update or driver is less than
once a month at the most on average for myself.

Good Luck,
TheNetAvenger

"Micheal" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:702237DE-4BE7-49ED-B683-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have just installed Vista and the bootup-time was very unsatisfying: I
>have to wait round about 1 minute (!).
>
> Right after the bios screen i am presented with nothing but a black
> screen. Nothing happens then.. There is no HD-activity.. it's like the PC
> is on idle.. after 1 Minute i can see the progress bar from the booting
> sequence (the one that looks like xp boot). Then everything goes pretty
> normal and i can log in.
>
> Okay.. i am a poweruser and barely reboot at all, but this is something i
> would like to see vanish before i feel absolutely comfortable with this
> new operating system.
>
> Any help is much appreciated.


 
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Gypsy
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      20th Nov 2006
So you leave your PC on all the time then?

"Micheal" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:702237DE-4BE7-49ED-B683-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have just installed Vista and the bootup-time was very unsatisfying: I
>have to wait round about 1 minute (!).
>
> Right after the bios screen i am presented with nothing but a black
> screen. Nothing happens then.. There is no HD-activity.. it's like the PC
> is on idle.. after 1 Minute i can see the progress bar from the booting
> sequence (the one that looks like xp boot). Then everything goes pretty
> normal and i can log in.
>
> Okay.. i am a poweruser and barely reboot at all, but this is something i
> would like to see vanish before i feel absolutely comfortable with this
> new operating system.
>
> Any help is much appreciated.
>



 
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Micheal
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      20th Nov 2006
Thank you for all the replys.
Since there is no real thread i will reply to everyone in this mail

Rick Rogers:
> Certainly shouldn't take that long. I would try to repair the startup
> first


I haven't done that yet, but i will try if after 2 days the boot keeps being
that slow.


TheNetAvenger:
> Give the system a day or two. On a new installation, Vista does extra
> monitoring and maintenance during boot.


I left my PC turned over night and this morning the computer was nearly
twice as fast as it was yesterday. I am amazed. It really seems to be faster
now. Probably Vista is almost done indexing, or whatever.. I will give it
some more time. This really seems to help.


Gypsy:
> So you leave your PC on all the time then?


Yes, i usually have my computer running 24/7. Current uptime is 17hours. The
XP i just killed was running smooth (and that over weeks). Too bad i
couldn't keep it. However.. i hope vista can handle my type of usage. We'll
see.



"Micheal" <(E-Mail Removed)> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:702237DE-4BE7-49ED-B683-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have just installed Vista and the bootup-time was very unsatisfying: I
>have to wait round about 1 minute (!).
>
> Right after the bios screen i am presented with nothing but a black
> screen. Nothing happens then.. There is no HD-activity.. it's like the PC
> is on idle.. after 1 Minute i can see the progress bar from the booting
> sequence (the one that looks like xp boot). Then everything goes pretty
> normal and i can log in.
>
> Okay.. i am a poweruser and barely reboot at all, but this is something i
> would like to see vanish before i feel absolutely comfortable with this
> new operating system.
>
> Any help is much appreciated.


 
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Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User
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      20th Nov 2006
XP was slowish at first untill such time as the 'pre-fetch' was completed..
Vista indexing takes its toll at first, but once completed is much faster..


"Micheal" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:25306D86-9B19-4B44-96B8-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thank you for all the replys.
> Since there is no real thread i will reply to everyone in this mail
>
> Rick Rogers:
>> Certainly shouldn't take that long. I would try to repair the startup
>> first

>
> I haven't done that yet, but i will try if after 2 days the boot keeps
> being that slow.
>
>
> TheNetAvenger:
>> Give the system a day or two. On a new installation, Vista does extra
>> monitoring and maintenance during boot.

>
> I left my PC turned over night and this morning the computer was nearly
> twice as fast as it was yesterday. I am amazed. It really seems to be
> faster now. Probably Vista is almost done indexing, or whatever.. I will
> give it some more time. This really seems to help.
>
>
> Gypsy:
>> So you leave your PC on all the time then?

>
> Yes, i usually have my computer running 24/7. Current uptime is 17hours.
> The XP i just killed was running smooth (and that over weeks). Too bad i
> couldn't keep it. However.. i hope vista can handle my type of usage.
> We'll see.
>
>
>
> "Micheal" <(E-Mail Removed)> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:702237DE-4BE7-49ED-B683-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I have just installed Vista and the bootup-time was very unsatisfying: I
>>have to wait round about 1 minute (!).
>>
>> Right after the bios screen i am presented with nothing but a black
>> screen. Nothing happens then.. There is no HD-activity.. it's like the PC
>> is on idle.. after 1 Minute i can see the progress bar from the booting
>> sequence (the one that looks like xp boot). Then everything goes pretty
>> normal and i can log in.
>>
>> Okay.. i am a poweruser and barely reboot at all, but this is something i
>> would like to see vanish before i feel absolutely comfortable with this
>> new operating system.
>>
>> Any help is much appreciated.

>


 
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