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Anne Onime
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      8th Nov 2010
I cloned my WinXP disk with Maxtor Maxblast. I have used
this before successfully. I then plugged in the clone disk
to same PC instead of original disk. It gets as far as
the Windows XP logo on light-blue background with dark-blue
bars at top and bottom. The mouse moves cursor, but hard
disk light is not on. Also, it does not respond to
ctrl-alt-del
If I boot in safe mode, it also stops at XP logo....

any ideas?

 
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Peter Taylor
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      8th Nov 2010
On 11/08/2010 08:52 AM, Anne Onime wrote:
> I cloned my WinXP disk with Maxtor Maxblast. I have used
> this before successfully. I then plugged in the clone disk
> to same PC instead of original disk. It gets as far as
> the Windows XP logo on light-blue background with dark-blue
> bars at top and bottom. The mouse moves cursor, but hard
> disk light is not on. Also, it does not respond to
> ctrl-alt-del
> If I boot in safe mode, it also stops at XP logo....
>
> any ideas?
>


Reclone.

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Paul
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      8th Nov 2010
Anne Onime wrote:
> I cloned my WinXP disk with Maxtor Maxblast. I have used
> this before successfully. I then plugged in the clone disk
> to same PC instead of original disk. It gets as far as
> the Windows XP logo on light-blue background with dark-blue
> bars at top and bottom. The mouse moves cursor, but hard
> disk light is not on. Also, it does not respond to
> ctrl-alt-del
> If I boot in safe mode, it also stops at XP logo....
>
> any ideas?
>


When you clone a disk, *disconnect* the original disk, before
you boot with the clone, for the first time. Once the clone
has booted all by itself, one time, it is then safe to plug
in the original disk again.

That's what Peter Taylor means by his answer of "reclone".
Yes, you need to reclone, but this time, boot the clone
disk all by itself and make sure it comes up. Then, shut
down, and connect the original disk again if you wish.
You can't have the original connected, when booting the
clone for the first time (in my experience).

Paul
 
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      8th Nov 2010
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 08:52:03 +0100 (CET), Anne Onime
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I cloned my WinXP disk with Maxtor Maxblast. I have used
>this before successfully. I then plugged in the clone disk
>to same PC instead of original disk. It gets as far as
>the Windows XP logo on light-blue background with dark-blue
>bars at top and bottom. The mouse moves cursor, but hard
>disk light is not on. Also, it does not respond to
>ctrl-alt-del
>If I boot in safe mode, it also stops at XP logo....
>
>any ideas?


I had a situation like that for weeks, months I think. (It started 2
months after installing XP and I used win98 during that time. )

I had no idea what started it, and didn't know the techniques ot here
here have probably suggesteddd. One day, I got busy with something
and let it sit at the stage you describe (I think it was just that
stage) for a half hour while I did things, and finally it started, but
everything was verrrry slow then too. I went into msconfig and
disabled every startup program and every service, and after that it
started normally quickly.

The usual instructions are to re-enable each thing one at a time, but
that would take forever. Do it binarily (word?). I re-enable about
15 or 20% of the things at once, maybe 20 things out of 100, and if
that were to mess things up, I re-disable about half of things I just
re-enabled You must keep a good record of which items were enabled
the first time, which the second, which when it messed you up again,
which were disabled again, etc. Or you'll run around in circles.

But if you do that, instead of 100 restarts to decide which service or
startup program is messing you up, you'll only need (log2 of 100), log
to the base 2 of 100. That is, the exponent of 2 that is as much or
more than 100, which is 7. Well, that's if you split them in half.
Splitting them in fourths or fifths on the first round and in thirds
on later rounds changes the number up a little bit, maybe 9.


Oh, yeah, recloning is probably the easiest thing here, but I saw your
symptom and maybe the advice will help someone some other time if not
now.
 
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Paul
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      8th Nov 2010
Bill in Co wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>> Anne Onime wrote:
>>> I cloned my WinXP disk with Maxtor Maxblast. I have used
>>> this before successfully. I then plugged in the clone disk
>>> to same PC instead of original disk. It gets as far as
>>> the Windows XP logo on light-blue background with dark-blue
>>> bars at top and bottom. The mouse moves cursor, but hard
>>> disk light is not on. Also, it does not respond to
>>> ctrl-alt-del
>>> If I boot in safe mode, it also stops at XP logo....
>>>
>>> any ideas?
>>>

>> When you clone a disk, *disconnect* the original disk, before
>> you boot with the clone, for the first time. Once the clone
>> has booted all by itself, one time, it is then safe to plug
>> in the original disk again.
>>
>> That's what Peter Taylor means by his answer of "reclone".
>> Yes, you need to reclone, but this time, boot the clone
>> disk all by itself and make sure it comes up. Then, shut
>> down, and connect the original disk again if you wish.
>> You can't have the original connected, when booting the
>> clone for the first time (in my experience).
>>
>> Paul

>
> And if you're using Acronis, it will warn you of that fact, fortunately.
> What is the technical explanation for this requirement, however? Is it a
> problematic issue at the windows level, or even lower, at the BIOS level?
>


Perhaps someone else knows the answer to that :-)

I suspect the clone, when booted, makes some references to the other
drive, and things go downhill from there. When I had problems,
as Peter Taylor said, it was easier to "reclone", than to
think about it :-) Call me lazy...

Paul
 
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Hot-Text
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      8th Nov 2010
Paul
Ok the new Hard Drive is a Maxtor
AND the old Hard Drive is?

"Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Bill in Co wrote:
>> Paul wrote:
>>> Anne Onime wrote:
>>>> I cloned my WinXP disk with Maxtor Maxblast. I have used
>>>> this before successfully. I then plugged in the clone disk
>>>> to same PC instead of original disk. It gets as far as
>>>> the Windows XP logo on light-blue background with dark-blue
>>>> bars at top and bottom. The mouse moves cursor, but hard
>>>> disk light is not on. Also, it does not respond to
>>>> ctrl-alt-del
>>>> If I boot in safe mode, it also stops at XP logo....
>>>>
>>>> any ideas?
>>>>
>>> When you clone a disk, *disconnect* the original disk, before
>>> you boot with the clone, for the first time. Once the clone
>>> has booted all by itself, one time, it is then safe to plug
>>> in the original disk again.
>>>
>>> That's what Peter Taylor means by his answer of "reclone".
>>> Yes, you need to reclone, but this time, boot the clone
>>> disk all by itself and make sure it comes up. Then, shut
>>> down, and connect the original disk again if you wish.
>>> You can't have the original connected, when booting the
>>> clone for the first time (in my experience).
>>>
>>> Paul

>>
>> And if you're using Acronis, it will warn you of that fact, fortunately.
>> What is the technical explanation for this requirement, however? Is it
>> a problematic issue at the windows level, or even lower, at the BIOS
>> level?

>
> Perhaps someone else knows the answer to that :-)
>
> I suspect the clone, when booted, makes some references to the other
> drive, and things go downhill from there. When I had problems,
> as Peter Taylor said, it was easier to "reclone", than to
> think about it :-) Call me lazy...
>
> Paul


 
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Paul
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      8th Nov 2010
Hot-Text wrote:
> Paul
> Ok the new Hard Drive is a Maxtor
> AND the old Hard Drive is?


In my case, I use mainly Seagates, and cloning is done with
an old copy of Partition Magic. And bad things happen if the
original disk is still connected, when you boot the clone.
Once you boot the clone once, by itself, everything is fine.

Paul

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> "Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:ib9llv$lml$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Bill in Co wrote:
>>> Paul wrote:
>>>> Anne Onime wrote:
>>>>> I cloned my WinXP disk with Maxtor Maxblast. I have used
>>>>> this before successfully. I then plugged in the clone disk
>>>>> to same PC instead of original disk. It gets as far as
>>>>> the Windows XP logo on light-blue background with dark-blue
>>>>> bars at top and bottom. The mouse moves cursor, but hard
>>>>> disk light is not on. Also, it does not respond to
>>>>> ctrl-alt-del
>>>>> If I boot in safe mode, it also stops at XP logo....
>>>>>
>>>>> any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>> When you clone a disk, *disconnect* the original disk, before
>>>> you boot with the clone, for the first time. Once the clone
>>>> has booted all by itself, one time, it is then safe to plug
>>>> in the original disk again.
>>>>
>>>> That's what Peter Taylor means by his answer of "reclone".
>>>> Yes, you need to reclone, but this time, boot the clone
>>>> disk all by itself and make sure it comes up. Then, shut
>>>> down, and connect the original disk again if you wish.
>>>> You can't have the original connected, when booting the
>>>> clone for the first time (in my experience).
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>
>>> And if you're using Acronis, it will warn you of that fact, fortunately.
>>> What is the technical explanation for this requirement, however? Is
>>> it a problematic issue at the windows level, or even lower, at the
>>> BIOS level?

>>
>> Perhaps someone else knows the answer to that :-)
>>
>> I suspect the clone, when booted, makes some references to the other
>> drive, and things go downhill from there. When I had problems,
>> as Peter Taylor said, it was easier to "reclone", than to
>> think about it :-) Call me lazy...
>>
>> Paul

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      9th Nov 2010
Good to here Paul that you ok
Was just seeing if you had a WD and to give you links to their tools!

But Partition Magic is for Seagates and Maxtor so you good with it!

Thank you for the come back info your
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