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mfink@patrioteng.com
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      20th Nov 2006
Ok, I have looked at a lot of posts and have seen a similar problem,
but no fixes helped me yet. I installed a brand new hard drive and
installed Windows XP Pro. My BIOS boot settings are as follows:

Floppy
CD-ROM
HDDO

When I start the computer, it seems to take a lot of time recognizing
IDE devices and then pauses once it has recognized Primary Master,
Slave... etc... then it tries to boot and I get thsi message:

Verifying DMI Pool Data..
BOOT FROM ATAPI CD-ROM:
DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER.

As long as the XP CD is in the drive Windows will boot fine. I do not
press enter, therefore I am not really booting from the CD. If I Boot
from CD then the WIndows installer starts. If I don't have the CD I
cannot boot.

Okay, what I've tried so far.

I've changed by boot sequences to all configurations, doesn't seem to
matter.

I ran Systam Console and did the following:

CopyD:\i386\NTLDR C:
CopyD:\i386\NTDETECT.COM C:

Files copied Fine... (This seemed to work for another post with the
same problem)
Did not work for me.....

Any more suggestions????

 
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John John
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      20th Nov 2006
Use the Disk Management tool and verify that the C: partition is marked
as Active.

John

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> Ok, I have looked at a lot of posts and have seen a similar problem,
> but no fixes helped me yet. I installed a brand new hard drive and
> installed Windows XP Pro. My BIOS boot settings are as follows:
>
> Floppy
> CD-ROM
> HDDO
>
> When I start the computer, it seems to take a lot of time recognizing
> IDE devices and then pauses once it has recognized Primary Master,
> Slave... etc... then it tries to boot and I get thsi message:
>
> Verifying DMI Pool Data..
> BOOT FROM ATAPI CD-ROM:
> DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER.
>
> As long as the XP CD is in the drive Windows will boot fine. I do not
> press enter, therefore I am not really booting from the CD. If I Boot
> from CD then the WIndows installer starts. If I don't have the CD I
> cannot boot.
>
> Okay, what I've tried so far.
>
> I've changed by boot sequences to all configurations, doesn't seem to
> matter.
>
> I ran Systam Console and did the following:
>
> CopyD:\i386\NTLDR C:
> CopyD:\i386\NTDETECT.COM C:
>
> Files copied Fine... (This seemed to work for another post with the
> same problem)
> Did not work for me.....
>
> Any more suggestions????
>


 
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mfink@patrioteng.com
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      20th Nov 2006
It says

C: Partition Basic NTFS Healthy (System) etc...

Below...

Disk0
114 GB
Online

 
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mfink
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      20th Nov 2006
Is it active, if not how do I do that?

When i right click the option to "mark as active" is grayed out and is
not a selection option.

 
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mfink
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      20th Nov 2006
Is it active, if not how do I do that?

When i right click the option to "mark as active" is grayed out and is
not a selection option.

 
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      20th Nov 2006
Is it active, if not how do I do that?

When i right click the option to "mark as active" is grayed out and is
not a selection option.

 
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Anna
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      20th Nov 2006
>
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
>> Ok, I have looked at a lot of posts and have seen a similar problem,
>> but no fixes helped me yet. I installed a brand new hard drive and
>> installed Windows XP Pro. My BIOS boot settings are as follows:
>>
>> Floppy
>> CD-ROM
>> HDDO
>>
>> When I start the computer, it seems to take a lot of time recognizing
>> IDE devices and then pauses once it has recognized Primary Master,
>> Slave... etc... then it tries to boot and I get thsi message:
>>
>> Verifying DMI Pool Data..
>> BOOT FROM ATAPI CD-ROM:
>> DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER.
>>
>> As long as the XP CD is in the drive Windows will boot fine. I do not
>> press enter, therefore I am not really booting from the CD. If I Boot
>> from CD then the WIndows installer starts. If I don't have the CD I
>> cannot boot.
>>
>> Okay, what I've tried so far.
>>
>> I've changed by boot sequences to all configurations, doesn't seem to
>> matter.
>>
>> I ran Systam Console and did the following:
>>
>> CopyD:\i386\NTLDR C:
>> CopyD:\i386\NTDETECT.COM C:
>>
>> Files copied Fine... (This seemed to work for another post with the
>> same problem)
>> Did not work for me.....
>>
>> Any more suggestions????



"John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Use the Disk Management tool and verify that the C: partition is marked as
> Active.
>
> John



mfink:
1. We'll assume that when you're able to get into Disk Management, nothing
untoward is shown there, i.e., the drive is shown as a System disk as well
as a Basic disk, and a drive letter has been assigned to it. In other words,
everything is "normal" in DM, right?

2. Assuming it is...you didn't say but we'll assume this is the only HDD
connected in your system, right? If not, disconnect any secondary HDDs and
boot with only your boot disk. And you boot without any USB or Firewire
external HDDs connected, right?

3. Have you tried connecting the HDD as a Secondary Master or Primary or
Secondary Slave? If not, do so. Same problem?

4. Your BIOS is set to auto-detect your HDD, right? You haven't changed the
default, right? Recheck your BIOS elements to ensure they're properly set.

5. You're absolutely sure you've properly connected & configured that HDD,
right? Think there might be a problem with the data cable?

6. Have you checked out the disk with the diagnostic from the disk's
manufacturer? If not, do so.
Anna


 
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mfink
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      20th Nov 2006

Anna wrote:
> >
> > (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> >
> >> Ok, I have looked at a lot of posts and have seen a similar problem,
> >> but no fixes helped me yet. I installed a brand new hard drive and
> >> installed Windows XP Pro. My BIOS boot settings are as follows:
> >>
> >> Floppy
> >> CD-ROM
> >> HDDO
> >>
> >> When I start the computer, it seems to take a lot of time recognizing
> >> IDE devices and then pauses once it has recognized Primary Master,
> >> Slave... etc... then it tries to boot and I get thsi message:
> >>
> >> Verifying DMI Pool Data..
> >> BOOT FROM ATAPI CD-ROM:
> >> DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER.
> >>
> >> As long as the XP CD is in the drive Windows will boot fine. I do not
> >> press enter, therefore I am not really booting from the CD. If I Boot
> >> from CD then the WIndows installer starts. If I don't have the CD I
> >> cannot boot.
> >>
> >> Okay, what I've tried so far.
> >>
> >> I've changed by boot sequences to all configurations, doesn't seem to
> >> matter.
> >>
> >> I ran Systam Console and did the following:
> >>
> >> CopyD:\i386\NTLDR C:
> >> CopyD:\i386\NTDETECT.COM C:
> >>
> >> Files copied Fine... (This seemed to work for another post with the
> >> same problem)
> >> Did not work for me.....
> >>
> >> Any more suggestions????

>
>
> "John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Use the Disk Management tool and verify that the C: partition is marked as
> > Active.
> >
> > John

>
>
> mfink:
> 1. We'll assume that when you're able to get into Disk Management, nothing
> untoward is shown there, i.e., the drive is shown as a System disk as well
> as a Basic disk, and a drive letter has been assigned to it. In other words,
> everything is "normal" in DM, right?
>
> 2. Assuming it is...you didn't say but we'll assume this is the only HDD
> connected in your system, right? If not, disconnect any secondary HDDs and
> boot with only your boot disk. And you boot without any USB or Firewire
> external HDDs connected, right?
>
> 3. Have you tried connecting the HDD as a Secondary Master or Primary or
> Secondary Slave? If not, do so. Same problem?
>
> 4. Your BIOS is set to auto-detect your HDD, right? You haven't changed the
> default, right? Recheck your BIOS elements to ensure they're properly set.
>
> 5. You're absolutely sure you've properly connected & configured that HDD,
> right? Think there might be a problem with the data cable?
>
> 6. Have you checked out the disk with the diagnostic from the disk's
> manufacturer? If not, do so.
> Anna


This is the only hard drive. I have USB ports installed, but nothing
attached to them. The disk used to be the Primary slave, without an
OS. I disconnected the previous Primary Master, it was only 10G, and
changed this drive to the Master. Is it Kosher to set the only HDD as
a Slave?? I am set to auto detect HDD and everything is conencted. I
can try connecting to a different IDE cable, but like I said.. the
system runs fine as long as the CD is in but doesn't appear to be
booting from the CD. Have not checked disk with Manufacturere website,
but everything seems to be set0up properly.. just won;t boot without
CD. Once booted, I can take out the CD and the system runs great!!
Any more suggestions????

 
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Anna
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      20th Nov 2006
>> > (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ok, I have looked at a lot of posts and have seen a similar problem,
>> >> but no fixes helped me yet. I installed a brand new hard drive and
>> >> installed Windows XP Pro. My BIOS boot settings are as follows:
>> >>
>> >> Floppy
>> >> CD-ROM
>> >> HDDO
>> >>
>> >> When I start the computer, it seems to take a lot of time recognizing
>> >> IDE devices and then pauses once it has recognized Primary Master,
>> >> Slave... etc... then it tries to boot and I get thsi message:
>> >>
>> >> Verifying DMI Pool Data..
>> >> BOOT FROM ATAPI CD-ROM:
>> >> DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER.
>> >>
>> >> As long as the XP CD is in the drive Windows will boot fine. I do not
>> >> press enter, therefore I am not really booting from the CD. If I Boot
>> >> from CD then the WIndows installer starts. If I don't have the CD I
>> >> cannot boot.
>> >>
>> >> Okay, what I've tried so far.
>> >>
>> >> I've changed by boot sequences to all configurations, doesn't seem to
>> >> matter.
>> >>
>> >> I ran Systam Console and did the following:
>> >>
>> >> CopyD:\i386\NTLDR C:
>> >> CopyD:\i386\NTDETECT.COM C:
>> >>
>> >> Files copied Fine... (This seemed to work for another post with the
>> >> same problem)
>> >> Did not work for me.....
>> >>
>> >> Any more suggestions????

>>
>>
>> "John John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Use the Disk Management tool and verify that the C: partition is marked
>> > as
>> > Active.
>> >
>> > John



> Anna wrote:
>> mfink:
>> 1. We'll assume that when you're able to get into Disk Management,
>> nothing
>> untoward is shown there, i.e., the drive is shown as a System disk as
>> well
>> as a Basic disk, and a drive letter has been assigned to it. In other
>> words,
>> everything is "normal" in DM, right?
>>
>> 2. Assuming it is...you didn't say but we'll assume this is the only HDD
>> connected in your system, right? If not, disconnect any secondary HDDs
>> and
>> boot with only your boot disk. And you boot without any USB or Firewire
>> external HDDs connected, right?
>>
>> 3. Have you tried connecting the HDD as a Secondary Master or Primary or
>> Secondary Slave? If not, do so. Same problem?
>>
>> 4. Your BIOS is set to auto-detect your HDD, right? You haven't changed
>> the
>> default, right? Recheck your BIOS elements to ensure they're properly
>> set.
>>
>> 5. You're absolutely sure you've properly connected & configured that
>> HDD,
>> right? Think there might be a problem with the data cable?
>>
>> 6. Have you checked out the disk with the diagnostic from the disk's
>> manufacturer? If not, do so.
>> Anna



"mfink" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> This is the only hard drive. I have USB ports installed, but nothing
> attached to them. The disk used to be the Primary slave, without an
> OS. I disconnected the previous Primary Master, it was only 10G, and
> changed this drive to the Master. Is it Kosher to set the only HDD as
> a Slave?? I am set to auto detect HDD and everything is conencted. I
> can try connecting to a different IDE cable, but like I said.. the
> system runs fine as long as the CD is in but doesn't appear to be
> booting from the CD. Have not checked disk with Manufacturere website,
> but everything seems to be set0up properly.. just won;t boot without
> CD. Once booted, I can take out the CD and the system runs great!!
> Any more suggestions????



mfink:
Just to verify, that 10 GB HDD is physically disconnected from the system,
right?

The reason I suggested connecting the HDD to another IDE channel is that at
times, for one reason or another, there's a problem with the Primary IDE
channel and as long as the HDD will boot from another IDE channel position,
it's worth trying. While virtually all modern motherboards will permit a
boot from the Secondary Master position, the same isn't true with respect to
a Slave connection - either Primary or Secondary. Depends upon the
motherboard.

Anyway, don't know really what else to suggest other than checking out the
disk with the HDD diagnostic you can probably download from the
manufacturer. And you have reviewed your BIOS elements to ensure they're as
they should be, right?

And assuming no problem with the HDD itself, try another fresh install of
the XP OS.
Anna


 
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John John
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      20th Nov 2006
You can boot with a Windows 98 startup disk and use fdisk to verify the
active status of the partition. Generally, if the Mark Active option is
greyed out the partition is already active, or another partition on the
disk is marked as active, thus preventing you to flag a second partition
as active, there is only one active partition at a time on a hard disc.

If the partition is indeed truly active then the boot sector may be
damaged. Here is one way that you can try to repair it without too much
hassle, install the Recovery Console. Launch the installation process
from Windows, when the installation is up and running. Installing the
Recovery Console may fix things. DON'T FORGET to remove the cd when you
are prompted to do so. When you install Windows not removing the cd
from the drive at the last reboot sometimes causes the type of problem
that you are experiencing.

Of course, as Anna suggested in her post if you have hardware problems
or if the hard drives are improperly connected or chained no amount of
fiddling will fix things. Make sure the drive is not in a slave
position, and that it is properly connected and on the right controller.

For instructions for the installation of the Recovery Console see:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;307654

John

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>
> When i right click the option to "mark as active" is grayed out and is
> not a selection option.
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