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      24th Feb 2006
Hi All,

I am not sure where to start looking on this problem a user has contacted me
about. They are using MS Word 2003.

They are using a template and entering text into the template. The problem
is that when the user is typing text and selects "Ctrl + B" for bold text the
bold text will not stay on? Clicking the bold button will not allow the
bold text to be typed either. Basically the bold button will appear on and
then immediately appear off. It is as though the font style cannot be
altered to allow bold text.

Where should I start looking?

Best regards,

Pablo

 
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      24th Feb 2006
Hi Pablo,

I have experienced the same problem and came up with this workaround: hide
your headers and footers (either use normal view or hide white space between
pages in print view).

The only real solution was to rebuild the template (which, with a lot of
copy and paste, appeared to be not such a tough job).

Success,
Cooz
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Thanks.

"pablo" wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I am not sure where to start looking on this problem a user has contacted me
> about. They are using MS Word 2003.
>
> They are using a template and entering text into the template. The problem
> is that when the user is typing text and selects "Ctrl + B" for bold text the
> bold text will not stay on? Clicking the bold button will not allow the
> bold text to be typed either. Basically the bold button will appear on and
> then immediately appear off. It is as though the font style cannot be
> altered to allow bold text.
>
> Where should I start looking?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pablo
>

 
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      24th Feb 2006

Hi Cooz,

Many thanks for the reply. Your response has helped a lot!

However, the work around works very well but why is the problem occuring in
the first place? This was not an issue for the user when they were using MS
Office 97.

I am keen to know why the problem occurs?? (maybe I should accept it is a
problem and live with the work around :-)

Best Regards,

Pablo

"Cooz" wrote:

> Hi Pablo,
>
> I have experienced the same problem and came up with this workaround: hide
> your headers and footers (either use normal view or hide white space between
> pages in print view).
>
> The only real solution was to rebuild the template (which, with a lot of
> copy and paste, appeared to be not such a tough job).
>
> Success,
> Cooz
> --
> PS: If this is a satisfying answer to your question and you're logged in via
> the Microsoft site, please click Yes to "Did this post answer the question?".
> Thanks.
>
> "pablo" wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am not sure where to start looking on this problem a user has contacted me
> > about. They are using MS Word 2003.
> >
> > They are using a template and entering text into the template. The problem
> > is that when the user is typing text and selects "Ctrl + B" for bold text the
> > bold text will not stay on? Clicking the bold button will not allow the
> > bold text to be typed either. Basically the bold button will appear on and
> > then immediately appear off. It is as though the font style cannot be
> > altered to allow bold text.
> >
> > Where should I start looking?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pablo
> >

 
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Charles Kenyon
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      24th Feb 2006
"in a template"
Any chance we are talking about a protected online form here? The behavior
you describe is what Word does in text fields in such a form. This has been
true as long as I have been using such forms. For more about online forms,
follow the links at http://addbalance.com/word/wordwebresources.htm#Forms or
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...nTheBlanks.htm especially Dian
Chapman's series of articles.

The way to use templates is to create new documents based on the template,
not to open and edit them.
--
Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
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"pablo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3B6BA1B5-E6B5-4A6B-BA5B-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi All,
>
> I am not sure where to start looking on this problem a user has contacted
> me
> about. They are using MS Word 2003.
>
> They are using a template and entering text into the template. The
> problem
> is that when the user is typing text and selects "Ctrl + B" for bold text
> the
> bold text will not stay on? Clicking the bold button will not allow the
> bold text to be typed either. Basically the bold button will appear on
> and
> then immediately appear off. It is as though the font style cannot be
> altered to allow bold text.
>
> Where should I start looking?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pablo
>



 
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      24th Feb 2006
Hi Charles,

I understand why you reply this way, but no, this is not about protected
forms.
Like Pablo, I would like to know what causes this behavior. Searching the
internet thoroughly did not help me any further.

Cooz


"Charles Kenyon" wrote:

> "in a template"
> Any chance we are talking about a protected online form here? The behavior
> you describe is what Word does in text fields in such a form. This has been
> true as long as I have been using such forms. For more about online forms,
> follow the links at http://addbalance.com/word/wordwebresources.htm#Forms or
> http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...nTheBlanks.htm especially Dian
> Chapman's series of articles.
>
> The way to use templates is to create new documents based on the template,
> not to open and edit them.
> --
> Charles Kenyon
>
> Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word
>
> Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
> Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide
>
> See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
> --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
> This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
> and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
> from my ignorance and your wisdom.
>
>
> "pablo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:3B6BA1B5-E6B5-4A6B-BA5B-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am not sure where to start looking on this problem a user has contacted
> > me
> > about. They are using MS Word 2003.
> >
> > They are using a template and entering text into the template. The
> > problem
> > is that when the user is typing text and selects "Ctrl + B" for bold text
> > the
> > bold text will not stay on? Clicking the bold button will not allow the
> > bold text to be typed either. Basically the bold button will appear on
> > and
> > then immediately appear off. It is as though the font style cannot be
> > altered to allow bold text.
> >
> > Where should I start looking?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pablo
> >

>
>
>

 
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Charles Kenyon
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      24th Feb 2006
I understand that your problem is not a protected form, but I suspect
pablo's user is in a protected form.
Yours sounds like a corrupted template since rebuilding the template helps.
Word 2003 senses corruption that earlier versions did not.

The behavior you describe is what happens in a normal document if, after
changing the bold setting, one moves the insertion point, using arrow keys
or the mouse, away from the original insertion point and then back again.
Why changing views would make this go away, I don't know.

I know that on my system, I lose the visual insertion point sometimes in
tables when working in print view.
--
Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
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and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.


"Cooz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:157A7DCD-EA17-4487-A990-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi Charles,
>
> I understand why you reply this way, but no, this is not about protected
> forms.
> Like Pablo, I would like to know what causes this behavior. Searching the
> internet thoroughly did not help me any further.
>
> Cooz
>
>
> "Charles Kenyon" wrote:
>
>> "in a template"
>> Any chance we are talking about a protected online form here? The
>> behavior
>> you describe is what Word does in text fields in such a form. This has
>> been
>> true as long as I have been using such forms. For more about online
>> forms,
>> follow the links at http://addbalance.com/word/wordwebresources.htm#Forms
>> or
>> http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...nTheBlanks.htm especially
>> Dian
>> Chapman's series of articles.
>>
>> The way to use templates is to create new documents based on the
>> template,
>> not to open and edit them.
>> --
>> Charles Kenyon
>>
>> Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word
>>
>> Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
>> Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide
>>
>> See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
>> --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
>> This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
>> and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
>> from my ignorance and your wisdom.
>>
>>
>> "pablo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:3B6BA1B5-E6B5-4A6B-BA5B-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > I am not sure where to start looking on this problem a user has
>> > contacted
>> > me
>> > about. They are using MS Word 2003.
>> >
>> > They are using a template and entering text into the template. The
>> > problem
>> > is that when the user is typing text and selects "Ctrl + B" for bold
>> > text
>> > the
>> > bold text will not stay on? Clicking the bold button will not allow
>> > the
>> > bold text to be typed either. Basically the bold button will appear on
>> > and
>> > then immediately appear off. It is as though the font style cannot be
>> > altered to allow bold text.
>> >
>> > Where should I start looking?
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Pablo
>> >

>>
>>
>>



 
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      24th Feb 2006

Hi Charles,

The user opens a template which creates a document based on that template.
The document is one page in length.

After some testing I can re-create the problem. Within the new document
based on the template I can press "ctrl + B" and I can type bold text. I
press "ctrl + b" and I can remove the bold text.

The fun ( so to speak) starts when you reach the bottom of the first page
and you move onto a newly created page (page 2. Created because the end of
the first page is reached. No macros are used to create the second page).

Now when I press "Ctrl + b" to turn on bold text the bold button stays on
for about half a second and the turns its self off? This continually happens
unless I type text before the bold button turns its self off and then bold
text will remain on.

The same is true when I want to turn bold text off on page 2. I press "Ctrl
+ b" and the bold turns off for about half a second then turns its self back
on. This continually happens unless I type very quickly after pressing "Ctrl
+ B" and then I can type non bold text.

I have a good work around from Cooz but it is a little confusing as to why
this is happining. Testing the form in MS Office 97 the bold function works
as it should (the problem also relates to other text format options such as
Italics, font colour, underlinning). It is as though I cannot change the
font type unless I type really quickly (on page 2. Page one font changes can
be applied easliy)!

??

Pablo

"Charles Kenyon" wrote:

> "in a template"
> Any chance we are talking about a protected online form here? The behavior
> you describe is what Word does in text fields in such a form. This has been
> true as long as I have been using such forms. For more about online forms,
> follow the links at http://addbalance.com/word/wordwebresources.htm#Forms or
> http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...nTheBlanks.htm especially Dian
> Chapman's series of articles.
>
> The way to use templates is to create new documents based on the template,
> not to open and edit them.
> --
> Charles Kenyon
>
> Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word
>
> Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
> Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide
>
> See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
> --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
> This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
> and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
> from my ignorance and your wisdom.
>
>
> "pablo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:3B6BA1B5-E6B5-4A6B-BA5B-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am not sure where to start looking on this problem a user has contacted
> > me
> > about. They are using MS Word 2003.
> >
> > They are using a template and entering text into the template. The
> > problem
> > is that when the user is typing text and selects "Ctrl + B" for bold text
> > the
> > bold text will not stay on? Clicking the bold button will not allow the
> > bold text to be typed either. Basically the bold button will appear on
> > and
> > then immediately appear off. It is as though the font style cannot be
> > altered to allow bold text.
> >
> > Where should I start looking?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pablo
> >

>
>
>

 
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