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Reynold
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      18th Nov 2003
I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I click
on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this program
when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck something
that's not there....

This is a copy of the help message:

To stop Windows Messenger from starting automatically
Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the Options
box.
To get there: In the Messenger main window, click the
Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
Preferences tab.

Clear the Run this program when Windows starts check box.
You can always start Messenger manually from the Windows
Start menu.


 
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D M
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      18th Nov 2003
In OE tools-options is "Automatically logon to windows messenger" checked?

Reynold wrote:
> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I click
> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this program
> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck something
> that's not there....
>
> This is a copy of the help message:
>
> To stop Windows Messenger from starting automatically
> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the Options
> box.
> To get there: In the Messenger main window, click the
> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
> Preferences tab.
>
> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts check box.
> You can always start Messenger manually from the Windows
> Start menu.



 
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Reynold
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      18th Nov 2003
I went through all tabs and buttons in OE Tools/Options,
this, there is no "automatically logon to windows
messenger". Maybe I am blind but I went thru it twice and
saw no such or similar option. Thanks.

>-----Original Message-----
>In OE tools-options is "Automatically logon to windows

messenger" checked?
>
>Reynold wrote:
>> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I click
>> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
>> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this

program
>> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck something
>> that's not there....
>>
>> This is a copy of the help message:
>>
>> To stop Windows Messenger from starting automatically
>> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the Options
>> box.
>> To get there: In the Messenger main window, click the
>> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
>> Preferences tab.
>>
>> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts check

box.
>> You can always start Messenger manually from the

Windows
>> Start menu.

>
>
>.
>

 
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Joel Estes
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      18th Nov 2003
Either you do not have XP or you ARE blind it is on the
Tools/Options/General Tab of Outlook Express. Also it is on the General Tab
of Windows Messenger.

Joel



"Reynold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:019801c3adfc$1ae31780$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I went through all tabs and buttons in OE Tools/Options,
> this, there is no "automatically logon to windows
> messenger". Maybe I am blind but I went thru it twice and
> saw no such or similar option. Thanks.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >In OE tools-options is "Automatically logon to windows

> messenger" checked?
> >
> >Reynold wrote:
> >> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I click
> >> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
> >> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this

> program
> >> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck something
> >> that's not there....
> >>
> >> This is a copy of the help message:
> >>
> >> To stop Windows Messenger from starting automatically
> >> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the Options
> >> box.
> >> To get there: In the Messenger main window, click the
> >> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
> >> Preferences tab.
> >>
> >> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts check

> box.
> >> You can always start Messenger manually from the

> Windows
> >> Start menu.

> >
> >
> >.
> >



 
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Guest
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      18th Nov 2003
Sorry, I am not using Outlook Express. I am using the
full version of Outlook as found in MS Office Standard
Edition 2003. The Tools/Options window has NO General
tab. The tabs are:Prefs, MailSetup, Mail Format,
Spelling, Security, Other.
Windows Messenger is version 4.7.0041. Again the
Tools/Options has NO General tab. Its tabs are:
Personal/Phone/Prefs/Privacy/Accounts/Connection. Under
the Prefs tab there is a checkbox for "allow this program
to run in the background". A few days ago, I unchecked
this and the icon went away. But when I restarted my
computer, it was back (even though the option is still
unchecked). Very frustrating. Thanks for your help.

Reynold

>-----Original Message-----
>Either you do not have XP or you ARE blind it is on the
>Tools/Options/General Tab of Outlook Express. Also it is

on the General Tab
>of Windows Messenger.
>
>Joel
>
>
>
>"Reynold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

message
>news:019801c3adfc$1ae31780$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I went through all tabs and buttons in OE

Tools/Options,
>> this, there is no "automatically logon to windows
>> messenger". Maybe I am blind but I went thru it twice

and
>> saw no such or similar option. Thanks.
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >In OE tools-options is "Automatically logon to windows

>> messenger" checked?
>> >
>> >Reynold wrote:
>> >> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I click
>> >> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
>> >> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this

>> program
>> >> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck

something
>> >> that's not there....
>> >>
>> >> This is a copy of the help message:
>> >>
>> >> To stop Windows Messenger from starting

automatically
>> >> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the

Options
>> >> box.
>> >> To get there: In the Messenger main window, click

the
>> >> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
>> >> Preferences tab.
>> >>
>> >> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts check

>> box.
>> >> You can always start Messenger manually from the

>> Windows
>> >> Start menu.
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

>
>
>.
>

 
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      18th Nov 2003
Thought maybe I could solve the problem with Outlook
Express. I installed it, went to Tools/Options/General,
unchecked the WinMes option, no deal, it's still there!

Reynold

>-----Original Message-----
>Sorry, I am not using Outlook Express. I am using the
>full version of Outlook as found in MS Office Standard
>Edition 2003. The Tools/Options window has NO General
>tab. The tabs are:Prefs, MailSetup, Mail Format,
>Spelling, Security, Other.
>Windows Messenger is version 4.7.0041. Again the
>Tools/Options has NO General tab. Its tabs are:
>Personal/Phone/Prefs/Privacy/Accounts/Connection. Under
>the Prefs tab there is a checkbox for "allow this

program
>to run in the background". A few days ago, I unchecked
>this and the icon went away. But when I restarted my
>computer, it was back (even though the option is still
>unchecked). Very frustrating. Thanks for your help.
>
>Reynold
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Either you do not have XP or you ARE blind it is on the
>>Tools/Options/General Tab of Outlook Express. Also it

is
>on the General Tab
>>of Windows Messenger.
>>
>>Joel
>>
>>
>>
>>"Reynold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

in
>message
>>news:019801c3adfc$1ae31780$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> I went through all tabs and buttons in OE

>Tools/Options,
>>> this, there is no "automatically logon to windows
>>> messenger". Maybe I am blind but I went thru it twice

>and
>>> saw no such or similar option. Thanks.
>>>
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >In OE tools-options is "Automatically logon to

windows
>>> messenger" checked?
>>> >
>>> >Reynold wrote:
>>> >> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I

click
>>> >> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
>>> >> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this
>>> program
>>> >> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck

>something
>>> >> that's not there....
>>> >>
>>> >> This is a copy of the help message:
>>> >>
>>> >> To stop Windows Messenger from starting

>automatically
>>> >> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the

>Options
>>> >> box.
>>> >> To get there: In the Messenger main window, click

>the
>>> >> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
>>> >> Preferences tab.
>>> >>
>>> >> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts

check
>>> box.
>>> >> You can always start Messenger manually from the
>>> Windows
>>> >> Start menu.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >.
>>> >

>>
>>
>>.
>>

>.
>

 
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Joel Estes
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      18th Nov 2003
I use MSN Messenger, but still have Windows Messenger on my computer, just
went and exited MSN Messenger and brought up Windows Messenger and on the
PREFERENCES Tab there is a place to check for it to run when Windows starts,
just uncheck that. If you do not have such
then there is some real question as to what you are running.

Joel

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:096401c3ae08$470a13c0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Sorry, I am not using Outlook Express. I am using the
> full version of Outlook as found in MS Office Standard
> Edition 2003. The Tools/Options window has NO General
> tab. The tabs are:Prefs, MailSetup, Mail Format,
> Spelling, Security, Other.
> Windows Messenger is version 4.7.0041. Again the
> Tools/Options has NO General tab. Its tabs are:
> Personal/Phone/Prefs/Privacy/Accounts/Connection. Under
> the Prefs tab there is a checkbox for "allow this program
> to run in the background". A few days ago, I unchecked
> this and the icon went away. But when I restarted my
> computer, it was back (even though the option is still
> unchecked). Very frustrating. Thanks for your help.
>
> Reynold
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Either you do not have XP or you ARE blind it is on the
> >Tools/Options/General Tab of Outlook Express. Also it is

> on the General Tab
> >of Windows Messenger.
> >
> >Joel
> >
> >
> >
> >"Reynold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

> message
> >news:019801c3adfc$1ae31780$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> I went through all tabs and buttons in OE

> Tools/Options,
> >> this, there is no "automatically logon to windows
> >> messenger". Maybe I am blind but I went thru it twice

> and
> >> saw no such or similar option. Thanks.
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >In OE tools-options is "Automatically logon to windows
> >> messenger" checked?
> >> >
> >> >Reynold wrote:
> >> >> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I click
> >> >> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
> >> >> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this
> >> program
> >> >> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck

> something
> >> >> that's not there....
> >> >>
> >> >> This is a copy of the help message:
> >> >>
> >> >> To stop Windows Messenger from starting

> automatically
> >> >> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the

> Options
> >> >> box.
> >> >> To get there: In the Messenger main window, click

> the
> >> >> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
> >> >> Preferences tab.
> >> >>
> >> >> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts check
> >> box.
> >> >> You can always start Messenger manually from the
> >> Windows
> >> >> Start menu.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >

> >
> >
> >.
> >



 
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Jonathan Kay [MVP]
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      18th Nov 2003
Hi Joel,

Actually there are some situations where this option is not shown, in both Outlook Express
and Messenger.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Joel Estes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I use MSN Messenger, but still have Windows Messenger on my computer, just
> went and exited MSN Messenger and brought up Windows Messenger and on the
> PREFERENCES Tab there is a place to check for it to run when Windows starts,
> just uncheck that. If you do not have such
> then there is some real question as to what you are running.
>
> Joel
>
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:096401c3ae08$470a13c0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Sorry, I am not using Outlook Express. I am using the
> > full version of Outlook as found in MS Office Standard
> > Edition 2003. The Tools/Options window has NO General
> > tab. The tabs are:Prefs, MailSetup, Mail Format,
> > Spelling, Security, Other.
> > Windows Messenger is version 4.7.0041. Again the
> > Tools/Options has NO General tab. Its tabs are:
> > Personal/Phone/Prefs/Privacy/Accounts/Connection. Under
> > the Prefs tab there is a checkbox for "allow this program
> > to run in the background". A few days ago, I unchecked
> > this and the icon went away. But when I restarted my
> > computer, it was back (even though the option is still
> > unchecked). Very frustrating. Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Reynold
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Either you do not have XP or you ARE blind it is on the
> > >Tools/Options/General Tab of Outlook Express. Also it is

> > on the General Tab
> > >of Windows Messenger.
> > >
> > >Joel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"Reynold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

> > message
> > >news:019801c3adfc$1ae31780$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >> I went through all tabs and buttons in OE

> > Tools/Options,
> > >> this, there is no "automatically logon to windows
> > >> messenger". Maybe I am blind but I went thru it twice

> > and
> > >> saw no such or similar option. Thanks.
> > >>
> > >> >-----Original Message-----
> > >> >In OE tools-options is "Automatically logon to windows
> > >> messenger" checked?
> > >> >
> > >> >Reynold wrote:
> > >> >> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I click
> > >> >> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
> > >> >> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this
> > >> program
> > >> >> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck

> > something
> > >> >> that's not there....
> > >> >>
> > >> >> This is a copy of the help message:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> To stop Windows Messenger from starting

> > automatically
> > >> >> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the

> > Options
> > >> >> box.
> > >> >> To get there: In the Messenger main window, click

> > the
> > >> >> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
> > >> >> Preferences tab.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts check
> > >> box.
> > >> >> You can always start Messenger manually from the
> > >> Windows
> > >> >> Start menu.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >.
> > >> >
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >

>
>



 
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      18th Nov 2003
I am running Office Standard 2003 on Windows XP
Professional version 5.1 (service pack 1). I go to Add &
Remove Programs / Set Program Access & Defaults / Choose
Custom. Among various choices is Choose a default instant
messaging program. Choice 1 is Use my current i.m.p.
Choice 2 is Windows Messenger and next to that is another
box, Enable Access. So I have checked Choice 1, unchecked
choice 2, and unchecked the Enable Access box. With all
this Windows still forces the Win Mes icon to show up in
the icon tray! Very Kafkaesque.

Next problem, when I right-click on the Win Mes icon,
there is an Exit command. When I click on this, I get the
message "There are other applications currently using
features provided by Win Mes. You must close these other
apps before you can exit Win Mes. These apps may include
Outlook, Outlook Express, MSN Explorer, and Internet
Explorer". This is beyond frustrating, that the option to
exit exists in a menu command, but in practice has been
disabled. Only when I quit Outlook does the Win Mes icon
disappear. Also very Kafkaesque.

Third problem, when I open Win Mes
Tools/Options/Preferences, there are only two choices.
Choice 1 is Allow this program to run in the background.
Choice 2 is Show me as "away" when I'm inactive for 120
min. There is no choice given about not starting WinMes
when Windows is launched. Maybe Choice 1 is supposed to
provide that feature, but no matter whether I check it or
not, WinMes runs. Even more Kafkaesque.

Pardon this short rant, but I feel as if I have no
control over my computer, and Microsoft owns it, not
me....

Thanks,
Reynold



>-----Original Message-----
>I use MSN Messenger, but still have Windows Messenger on

my computer, just
>went and exited MSN Messenger and brought up Windows

Messenger and on the
>PREFERENCES Tab there is a place to check for it to run

when Windows starts,
>just uncheck that. If you do not have such
>then there is some real question as to what you are

running.
>
>Joel
>
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:096401c3ae08$470a13c0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Sorry, I am not using Outlook Express. I am using the
>> full version of Outlook as found in MS Office Standard
>> Edition 2003. The Tools/Options window has NO General
>> tab. The tabs are:Prefs, MailSetup, Mail Format,
>> Spelling, Security, Other.
>> Windows Messenger is version 4.7.0041. Again the
>> Tools/Options has NO General tab. Its tabs are:
>> Personal/Phone/Prefs/Privacy/Accounts/Connection. Under
>> the Prefs tab there is a checkbox for "allow this

program
>> to run in the background". A few days ago, I unchecked
>> this and the icon went away. But when I restarted my
>> computer, it was back (even though the option is still
>> unchecked). Very frustrating. Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Reynold
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Either you do not have XP or you ARE blind it is on

the
>> >Tools/Options/General Tab of Outlook Express. Also it

is
>> on the General Tab
>> >of Windows Messenger.
>> >
>> >Joel
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Reynold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

in
>> message
>> >news:019801c3adfc$1ae31780$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> I went through all tabs and buttons in OE

>> Tools/Options,
>> >> this, there is no "automatically logon to windows
>> >> messenger". Maybe I am blind but I went thru it

twice
>> and
>> >> saw no such or similar option. Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >In OE tools-options is "Automatically logon to

windows
>> >> messenger" checked?
>> >> >
>> >> >Reynold wrote:
>> >> >> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I

click
>> >> >> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
>> >> >> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this
>> >> program
>> >> >> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck

>> something
>> >> >> that's not there....
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This is a copy of the help message:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To stop Windows Messenger from starting

>> automatically
>> >> >> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the

>> Options
>> >> >> box.
>> >> >> To get there: In the Messenger main window,

click
>> the
>> >> >> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
>> >> >> Preferences tab.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts

check
>> >> box.
>> >> >> You can always start Messenger manually from the
>> >> Windows
>> >> >> Start menu.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

>
>
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Jonathan Kay [MVP]
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      18th Nov 2003
Greetings Reynold,

To get this option to appear, simply reinstall Windows Messenger from here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/messenger/download.asp
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Reynold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:06b801c3ade0$4d8d95f0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I don't want or need Windows Messenger. When I click
> on "Help" and type in "exit", I get the following
> procedure. Only problem is, there's no "Run this program
> when Windows starts" option, I can't uncheck something
> that's not there....
>
> This is a copy of the help message:
>
> To stop Windows Messenger from starting automatically
> Make sure you are on the Preferences tab of the Options
> box.
> To get there: In the Messenger main window, click the
> Tools menu, select Options, and then click the
> Preferences tab.
>
> Clear the Run this program when Windows starts check box.
> You can always start Messenger manually from the Windows
> Start menu.
>
>



 
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