When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue progress bar is typical
before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take about 4-5 passes but
now takes about 11-12.

I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS Essentials
virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes. How can I reduce the number
of passes of the blue progress bar?

Don't start/load MSE.
"bobster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue progress bar is
> typical
> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take about 4-5 passes
> but
> now takes about 11-12.
>
> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS Essentials
> virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes. How can I reduce the number
> of passes of the blue progress bar?
>
>

PS, a modem will also cause a long boot time.
"bobster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue progress bar is
> typical
> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take about 4-5 passes
> but
> now takes about 11-12.
>
> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS Essentials
> virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes. How can I reduce the number
> of passes of the blue progress bar?
>
>

I took MS Essentials off the startup list of msconfig. I also uninstalled
the dial-up modem and its driver. No change, still takes 11-12 passes of
the blue progress bar to get to the Welcome screen.

Any other ideas out there?


"Unknown" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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PS, a modem will also cause a long boot time.
"bobster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue progress bar is
> typical
> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take about 4-5 passes
> but
> now takes about 11-12.
>
> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS Essentials
> virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes. How can I reduce the number
> of passes of the blue progress bar?
>
>

bobster wrote:

> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue progress bar is typical
> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take about 4-5 passes but
> now takes about 11-12.
>
> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS Essentials
> virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes. How can I reduce the number
> of passes of the blue progress bar?

How many startup programs you chose to load on Windows startup. How many
services are enabled and how many you added for software installs. If any
of them perform intensive disk activities (cleanup, scan, etc). If WGA
connects to go look for an update. If any of your security programs check
for an update (anti-virus, firewall, HIPS, anti-malware, etc). Some
security products are more intrusive than others during startup, like MSE
will chomp up 90%, or more, CPU usage during startup than, say, Avast. The
more you install on your host the more startup programs you end up with and
the more that want to go check for updates. Poorly coded, incompatible, or
conflicting drivers can cause enlongated startup times.

Use SysInternals' AutoRuns to see all the locations used to define startup
programs that load up on your host. msconfig will only show some of the
startup locations. Also, many services added by software installs won't
show up in msconfig because those services get rolled in a common instance
of svchost.exe. Both msconfig and AutoRuns will show the list of services
but not what is rolled into svchost.exe, so go look at your list of services
(run services.msc) to see what got added. You might also start looking in
the Event Viewer (eventvwr.exe) to see if there are any errors occurring
during startup.

Thanks for the suggestions Vanguard. I downloaded SysInternals AutoRuns and
found some left over stuff from Avast! -- "files not found" and deleted
them. Also went to Event Viewer and found several errors that were related
to the Avast! residue. After all of this "cleanup", the 11-12 blue bar
passes remain unchanged. Not sure where to look next. Guess I'll just live
with it as my XP loads in just under a minute.

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"VanguardLH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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bobster wrote:

> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue progress bar is
> typical
> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take about 4-5 passes
> but
> now takes about 11-12.
>
> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS Essentials
> virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes. How can I reduce the number
> of passes of the blue progress bar?

How many startup programs you chose to load on Windows startup. How many
services are enabled and how many you added for software installs. If any
of them perform intensive disk activities (cleanup, scan, etc). If WGA
connects to go look for an update. If any of your security programs check
for an update (anti-virus, firewall, HIPS, anti-malware, etc). Some
security products are more intrusive than others during startup, like MSE
will chomp up 90%, or more, CPU usage during startup than, say, Avast. The
more you install on your host the more startup programs you end up with and
the more that want to go check for updates. Poorly coded, incompatible, or
conflicting drivers can cause enlongated startup times.

Use SysInternals' AutoRuns to see all the locations used to define startup
programs that load up on your host. msconfig will only show some of the
startup locations. Also, many services added by software installs won't
show up in msconfig because those services get rolled in a common instance
of svchost.exe. Both msconfig and AutoRuns will show the list of services
but not what is rolled into svchost.exe, so go look at your list of services
(run services.msc) to see what got added. You might also start looking in
the Event Viewer (eventvwr.exe) to see if there are any errors occurring
during startup.

In news:(E-Mail Removed),
bobster <(E-Mail Removed)> typed:
> I took MS Essentials off the startup list of msconfig. I
> also uninstalled the dial-up modem and its driver. No
> change, still takes 11-12 passes of the blue progress bar
> to get to the Welcome screen.
>
> Any other ideas out there?

I'd say you're fine. You'll actually find that the number of passes varies
over time and how many cold starts and reboots you do, too. Windows
attempts to reorganize boot processes and it changes things on occasion.
9 trips and a max of about 12 seems like the average in my opinion. I've
had it as high as in the twenties long ago, but at this minute it's doing 6
passes. Some programs inherently increase it, but as a rule, it's nothing to
worry about. Specific, and variable from machine to machine, takes whatever
time it needs to get up and running and nothing more or less. Don't use it
to troubleshoot; 12 passes is fine, so would be 15 or ... .
Now if the speed of that bar changes, that would indicate something might
be out of kilter.



>
>
> "Unknown" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> PS, a modem will also cause a long boot time.
> "bobster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue
>> progress bar is typical
>> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take
>> about 4-5 passes but
>> now takes about 11-12.
>>
>> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS
>> Essentials virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes.
>> How can I reduce the number of passes of the blue progress
>> bar?

Thanks, Twayne, you have relieved my mind. Right now, the number of passes
varies between 9 and 12. Nothing I do seems to lower this number (I have
used MSbootvis and defrag c: -b to optimize boot times) although at one time
it was as low as 4-5. That was before I added numerous apps and
"protection".

I can't complain about boot times -- they're always under one minute and my
shutdown time is 10-15 seconds.

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"Twayne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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In news:(E-Mail Removed),
bobster <(E-Mail Removed)> typed:
> I took MS Essentials off the startup list of msconfig. I
> also uninstalled the dial-up modem and its driver. No
> change, still takes 11-12 passes of the blue progress bar
> to get to the Welcome screen.
>
> Any other ideas out there?

I'd say you're fine. You'll actually find that the number of passes varies
over time and how many cold starts and reboots you do, too. Windows
attempts to reorganize boot processes and it changes things on occasion.
9 trips and a max of about 12 seems like the average in my opinion. I've
had it as high as in the twenties long ago, but at this minute it's doing 6
passes. Some programs inherently increase it, but as a rule, it's nothing to
worry about. Specific, and variable from machine to machine, takes whatever
time it needs to get up and running and nothing more or less. Don't use it
to troubleshoot; 12 passes is fine, so would be 15 or ... .
Now if the speed of that bar changes, that would indicate something might
be out of kilter.



>
>
> "Unknown" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> PS, a modem will also cause a long boot time.
> "bobster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue
>> progress bar is typical
>> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take
>> about 4-5 passes but
>> now takes about 11-12.
>>
>> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS
>> Essentials virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes.
>> How can I reduce the number of passes of the blue progress
>> bar?

Mine used to be 8 passes till I installed Open Office which took it to
10 .




On Mon, 10 May 2010 12:48:28 -0700, "bobster" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Thanks, Twayne, you have relieved my mind. Right now, the number of passes
>varies between 9 and 12. Nothing I do seems to lower this number (I have
>used MSbootvis and defrag c: -b to optimize boot times) although at one time
>it was as low as 4-5. That was before I added numerous apps and
>"protection".
>
>I can't complain about boot times -- they're always under one minute and my
>shutdown time is 10-15 seconds.
>
>====================================================
>"Twayne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>In news:(E-Mail Removed),
>bobster <(E-Mail Removed)> typed:
>> I took MS Essentials off the startup list of msconfig. I
>> also uninstalled the dial-up modem and its driver. No
>> change, still takes 11-12 passes of the blue progress bar
>> to get to the Welcome screen.
>>
>> Any other ideas out there?
>
>I'd say you're fine. You'll actually find that the number of passes varies
>over time and how many cold starts and reboots you do, too. Windows
>attempts to reorganize boot processes and it changes things on occasion.
> 9 trips and a max of about 12 seems like the average in my opinion. I've
>had it as high as in the twenties long ago, but at this minute it's doing 6
>passes. Some programs inherently increase it, but as a rule, it's nothing to
>worry about. Specific, and variable from machine to machine, takes whatever
>time it needs to get up and running and nothing more or less. Don't use it
>to troubleshoot; 12 passes is fine, so would be 15 or ... .
> Now if the speed of that bar changes, that would indicate something might
>be out of kilter.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> "Unknown" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> PS, a modem will also cause a long boot time.
>> "bobster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue
>>> progress bar is typical
>>> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take
>>> about 4-5 passes but
>>> now takes about 11-12.
>>>
>>> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS
>>> Essentials virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes.
>>> How can I reduce the number of passes of the blue progress
>>> bar?
>
>
>

In news:(E-Mail Removed),
bobster <(E-Mail Removed)> typed:
> Thanks, Twayne, you have relieved my mind. Right now, the
> number of passes varies between 9 and 12. Nothing I do
> seems to lower this number (I have used MSbootvis and
> defrag c: -b to optimize boot times) although at one time
> it was as low as 4-5. That was before I added numerous
> apps and "protection".
>
> I can't complain about boot times -- they're always under
> one minute and my shutdown time is 10-15 seconds.
>
> ====================================================
> "Twayne" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In news:(E-Mail Removed),
> bobster <(E-Mail Removed)> typed:
>> I took MS Essentials off the startup list of msconfig. I
>> also uninstalled the dial-up modem and its driver. No
>> change, still takes 11-12 passes of the blue progress bar
>> to get to the Welcome screen.
>>
>> Any other ideas out there?
>
> I'd say you're fine. You'll actually find that the number
> of passes varies over time and how many cold starts and
> reboots you do, too. Windows attempts to reorganize boot
> processes and it changes things on occasion. 9 trips and
> a max of about 12 seems like the average in my opinion.
> I've had it as high as in the twenties long ago, but at
> this minute it's doing 6 passes. Some programs inherently
> increase it, but as a rule, it's nothing to worry about.
> Specific, and variable from machine to machine, takes
> whatever time it needs to get up and running and nothing
> more or less. Don't use it to troubleshoot; 12 passes is
> fine, so would be 15 or ... . Now if the speed of that bar
> changes, that would indicate something might be out of
> kilter.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> "Unknown" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> PS, a modem will also cause a long boot time.
>> "bobster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue
>>> progress bar is typical
>>> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take
>>> about 4-5 passes but
>>> now takes about 11-12.
>>>
>>> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS
>>> Essentials virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes.
>>> How can I reduce the number of passes of the blue progress
>>> bar?

Glad to hear it.
That's pretty much typical; every time you install something, especially
large suites, it's going to increase the amount of time needed. Some things
will change it a lot, some not at all, and other times over the next three
or four boots, you might find successively smaller numbers of trips as XP
arranges things. Beware of assigning problems to that; I've had it as hight
as 32 and eventually it settled back into place at 14.

HTH,

Twayne`