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Blue colors printing up as purplish on Canon S600 with Canon photo matte paper, and causing other colors to be inaccurate.

 
 
Cymbal Man Freq.
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      29th Dec 2003
I downloaded a jpeg of color test patterns for my monitor. It had circles of
red, green and blue, and where the colors overlapped there are the colors cyan,
magenta, yellow, and white. I was taking nite photos on my dcam and the
streetlights were making white things yellow (so I needed less green from my
videocard to make them white again), and the brightness became extremely
critical on my monitor or else parts of buildings would disappear (too dark) or
blue noise would appear (too light).

I did a print of a fractal awhile back and it came out purple in spots where it
should have come out bright blue. I'd have to turn the monitors' Blue down (from
48% down to 28%) to get the same effect and to get the other colors on the
monitor to match up with the print. I couldn't believe that my monitor would
require so little blue. So I did a printout of the above-mentioned "overlapping
color circles" and the blue came out purple and causing the other overlapping
colors to be inaccurate to some degree. How do I get blue to show up where
purple shows up now on my prints?


 
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Gary Tait
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      29th Dec 2003
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 03:56:44 GMT, "Cymbal Man Freq." <Don't
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>I downloaded a jpeg of color test patterns for my monitor. It had circles of
>red, green and blue, and where the colors overlapped there are the colors cyan,
>magenta, yellow, and white. I was taking nite photos on my dcam and the
>streetlights were making white things yellow (so I needed less green from my
>videocard to make them white again), and the brightness became extremely
>critical on my monitor or else parts of buildings would disappear (too dark) or
>blue noise would appear (too light).
>
>I did a print of a fractal awhile back and it came out purple in spots where it
>should have come out bright blue. I'd have to turn the monitors' Blue down (from
>48% down to 28%) to get the same effect and to get the other colors on the
>monitor to match up with the print. I couldn't believe that my monitor would
>require so little blue. So I did a printout of the above-mentioned "overlapping
>color circles" and the blue came out purple and causing the other overlapping
>colors to be inaccurate to some degree. How do I get blue to show up where
>purple shows up now on my prints?
>


Look at the cartridge/head to make sure the blue ink is blue. When I
changed my colour carts a while back, the yellow somehow got
contaminated by Cyan, but I cought it early enough, and printed a few
sheets of yellow, and it cleaned out.
 
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Wolf Kirchmeir
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      29th Dec 2003
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 09:57:47 -0500, Gary Tait wrote:

[quoting Cymbal Man:]
=>>should have come out bright blue. I'd have to turn the monitors' Blue down (from
=>>48% down to 28%) to get the same effect and to get the other colors on the
=>>monitor to match up with the print. I couldn't believe that my monitor would
=>>require so little blue. So I did a printout of the above-mentioned "overlapping
=>>color circles" and the blue came out purple and causing the other overlapping
=>>colors to be inaccurate to some degree. How do I get blue to show up where
=>>purple shows up now on my prints?

Hi, Cymbal Man:
There is no guarantee whatever that the colours you see on
your monitor will be the colours you see in the printout.
Even if you've "calibrated" the monitor with a colour card,
as you have. In addition to the problem identified by Gary
below, different papers will show colours differently (some
not for a day or two, as the paper and the inks interact
over time.) It's possible to set "colour profiles" for
specific printing jobs - if your software and/or printer
driver have this facility, explore it, and you will find
that you will be able to print colour pictures with the
correct colour balance much more reliably. There's also the
issue that different programs will have subtly different
colour palettes, which can also affect the colours of your
prints. Pick a couple of such programs, one for
quick'n'dirty printing, one for major image manipulation,
learn them thoroughly, and ditch the rest. Finally, if you
use 3rd party inks, the colours will almost certainly be
off; you will have to adjust the colour profiles to match.

=>Look at the cartridge/head to make sure the blue ink is blue. When I
=>changed my colour carts a while back, the yellow somehow got
=>contaminated by Cyan, but I caught it early enough, and printed a few
=>sheets of yellow, and it cleaned out.

HTH&GL

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Trev
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      29th Dec 2003

"Cymbal Man Freq." <Don't (E-Mail Removed)g> wrote in
message news:0CNHb.85191$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I downloaded a jpeg of color test patterns for my monitor. It had

circles of
> red, green and blue, and where the colors overlapped there are the

colors cyan,
> magenta, yellow, and white. I was taking nite photos on my dcam and

the
> streetlights were making white things yellow (so I needed less green

from my
> videocard to make them white again), and the brightness became

extremely
> critical on my monitor or else parts of buildings would disappear (too

dark) or
> blue noise would appear (too light).
>
> I did a print of a fractal awhile back and it came out purple in spots

where it
> should have come out bright blue. I'd have to turn the monitors' Blue

down (from
> 48% down to 28%) to get the same effect and to get the other colors on

the
> monitor to match up with the print. I couldn't believe that my monitor

would
> require so little blue. So I did a printout of the above-mentioned

"overlapping
> color circles" and the blue came out purple and causing the other

overlapping
> colors to be inaccurate to some degree. How do I get blue to show up

where
> purple shows up now on my prints?
>

What makes you think altering the colour balance of the monitor screen
will effect how a Image prints. You need to reset the monitor and alter
the colour balance of the image in a image editing programme


 
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Cymbal Man Freq.
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      29th Dec 2003
To get more flesh tones, I turn up the magenta a bit.
How do I get blue to be less purplish by adjusting any or all of yellow,
magenta, and cyan?


 
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Cymbal Man Freq.
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      29th Dec 2003
To get more flesh tones, I turn the magenta up a bit to +10 (more magenta).
How do I get blue to be less purplish by adjusting any or all of yellow,
magenta, cyan, and black in the "manual color adjustments"? There are sliders
that go from -50 to +50. I also have an "intensity" slider that some pictures
demand be turned to -18, but others can get by at 0. Darker pictures wind up
"muddy" if the printing "intensity" is too high for the picture, (like an
avalanche of ink on a denuded forest hill).



 
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