We have 4 computers (mine being the main household one) I have them all set
up with Outlook Express and each computer downloads it's own emails using
rules mainly set up on my computer.
I have just brought Office 2007 standard and wanted to try Outlook but it
keeps downloading everybody's emails and rules don't seem to have any effect.
I have had a scout around and it seems I need another bit of software to get
Outlook to work like Outlook Express, is this correct and if so what software
do I need?
I have reverted back to Outlook Express and I'm a bit perplexed to find that
the cutdown version of Outlook works better than the full product.

Do all family members have separate email accounts delivered to separate
mailboxes?
That is the preferred setup. Then you use multiple Windows profiles or
multiple Outlook profiles create via the Mail icon in Control Panel.

--
Bill R
"Blueprint" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:450EDFCF-34E5-4679-9140-(E-Mail Removed)...
> We have 4 computers (mine being the main household one) I have them all
> set
> up with Outlook Express and each computer downloads it's own emails using
> rules mainly set up on my computer.
> I have just brought Office 2007 standard and wanted to try Outlook but it
> keeps downloading everybody's emails and rules don't seem to have any
> effect.
> I have had a scout around and it seems I need another bit of software to
> get
> Outlook to work like Outlook Express, is this correct and if so what
> software
> do I need?
> I have reverted back to Outlook Express and I'm a bit perplexed to find
> that
> the cutdown version of Outlook works better than the full product.

"Blueprint" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:450EDFCF-34E5-4679-9140-(E-Mail Removed)...
> We have 4 computers (mine being the main household one)

And yet you never mentioned WHICH version of Windows is being used on
each one.

> I have them all set
> up with Outlook Express and each computer downloads it's own emails
> using
> rules mainly set up on my computer.

Did each user get their own Windows login account?
Are you sharing the same login account (or you are using an old
version of Windows that doesn't have any security, like Win9x/ME) and
using Identities to separate users' accounts in OE?

> I have just brought Office 2007 standard and wanted to try Outlook
> but it
> keeps downloading everybody's emails and rules don't seem to have
> any effect.

Why do you have anyone's e-mail account defined in Outlook (under your
Windows login account) other than for your own?

> I have had a scout around and it seems I need another bit of
> software to get
> Outlook to work like Outlook Express, is this correct and if so what
> software
> do I need?

Have each user use a separate Windows login account.
Or use mail profiles (Mail applet in Control Panel).

> I have reverted back to Outlook Express and I'm a bit perplexed to
> find that
> the cutdown version of Outlook works better than the full product.

And what is a "cutdown version of Outlook"? There is no such product.
Outlook Express and Outlook are unrelated, just like WordPerfect and
Word are unrelated, just like Walgreens and Walmart are unrelated.

Sorry not to add that all computers are using XP Home (Sp2). Only my computer
has Office 2007, the others have Works and will still use Outlook Express.
The Accounts are from the ISP Freeserve/Orange so basically the same Account
but with a different name before the '@' symbol.

Also sorry about the 'cutdown version' thought. I know WordPerfect and Word
are not the same as they are made by different people. But as Microsoft make
both Outlook and Outlook Express I just assumed that as they both have the
Outlook tag, that the Express part ment it was was a paired down version.

Thanks for help so far

"VanguardLH" wrote:

> "Blueprint" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:450EDFCF-34E5-4679-9140-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > We have 4 computers (mine being the main household one)
>
> And yet you never mentioned WHICH version of Windows is being used on
> each one.
>
> > I have them all set
> > up with Outlook Express and each computer downloads it's own emails
> > using
> > rules mainly set up on my computer.
>
> Did each user get their own Windows login account?
> Are you sharing the same login account (or you are using an old
> version of Windows that doesn't have any security, like Win9x/ME) and
> using Identities to separate users' accounts in OE?
>
> > I have just brought Office 2007 standard and wanted to try Outlook
> > but it
> > keeps downloading everybody's emails and rules don't seem to have
> > any effect.
>
> Why do you have anyone's e-mail account defined in Outlook (under your
> Windows login account) other than for your own?
>
> > I have had a scout around and it seems I need another bit of
> > software to get
> > Outlook to work like Outlook Express, is this correct and if so what
> > software
> > do I need?
>
> Have each user use a separate Windows login account.
> Or use mail profiles (Mail applet in Control Panel).
>
> > I have reverted back to Outlook Express and I'm a bit perplexed to
> > find that
> > the cutdown version of Outlook works better than the full product.
>
> And what is a "cutdown version of Outlook"? There is no such product.
> Outlook Express and Outlook are unrelated, just like WordPerfect and
> Word are unrelated, just like Walgreens and Walmart are unrelated.
>
>

"Blueprint" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Sorry not to add that all computers are using XP Home (Sp2). Only my
> computer
> has Office 2007, the others have Works and will still use Outlook
> Express.
> The Accounts are from the ISP Freeserve/Orange so basically the same
> Account
> but with a different name before the '@' symbol.

I am not personally familiar or use Freeserve. Do they provide
separate e-mail accounts for each user (i.e., the name before the
at-symbol)? Or do they only provide one mailbox that is shared
amongst multiple users?

Having the same domain after the at-symbol is usually irrelevant to
having separate e-mail accounts. Usually each username (in
username@domain) gets their own separate mailbox.

So how many accounts do you have defined in Outlook under YOUR Windows
login? You should only have your account defined. Each user should
have their own separate Windows login account, then Outlook would have
the e-mail account defined under that Windows account for just that
user's e-mail account.

"VanguardLH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Blueprint" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:1740CB05-AB8E-4A9A-BB28-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Sorry not to add that all computers are using XP Home (Sp2). Only my
>> computer
>> has Office 2007, the others have Works and will still use Outlook
>> Express.
>> The Accounts are from the ISP Freeserve/Orange so basically the same
>> Account
>> but with a different name before the '@' symbol.
>
> I am not personally familiar or use Freeserve. Do they provide separate
> e-mail accounts for each user (i.e., the name before the at-symbol)? Or
> do they only provide one mailbox that is shared amongst multiple users?

All the "different" email accounts provided by Freeserve (Wanadoo that was
and is now Orange AFAIK) are in fact just aliases of the one master email
address. they are in the format of (E-Mail Removed) and there
used to be a workaraound when it was actually Freeserve (don't know whether
it will work now) whereby in the Username in the account setup in the email
client you could put the following:
"username.freeserve.co.uk + myname" (without the quotes) and that would ONLY
download email for the "myname" alias.

HTH

Blueprint <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Sorry not to add that all computers are using XP Home (Sp2). Only my
> computer has Office 2007, the others have Works and will still use
> Outlook Express. The Accounts are from the ISP Freeserve/Orange so
> basically the same Account but with a different name before the '@'
> symbol.

VanguardLH <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Having the same domain after the at-symbol is usually irrelevant to
> having separate e-mail accounts. Usually each username (in
> username@domain) gets their own separate mailbox.

Even if the local part in from of the @ is different, that doesn't
necessarily mean that the mailboxes are separate. Do you all use the same
server username/password to access the accounts?
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

"Brian Tillman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Blueprint <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Sorry not to add that all computers are using XP Home (Sp2). Only my
>> computer has Office 2007, the others have Works and will still use
>> Outlook Express. The Accounts are from the ISP Freeserve/Orange so
>> basically the same Account but with a different name before the '@'
>> symbol.
>
> VanguardLH <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Having the same domain after the at-symbol is usually irrelevant to
>> having separate e-mail accounts. Usually each username (in
>> username@domain) gets their own separate mailbox.
>
> Even if the local part in from of the @ is different, that doesn't
> necessarily mean that the mailboxes are separate. Do you all use the same
> server username/password to access the accounts?
> --
> Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]


As the OP said freeserve, see my reply.....

"Gordon" wrote in message news:fe0gd5$c7p$(E-Mail Removed)...
> "VanguardLH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "Blueprint" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:1740CB05-AB8E-4A9A-BB28-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Sorry not to add that all computers are using XP Home (Sp2). Only
>>> my computer
>>> has Office 2007, the others have Works and will still use Outlook
>>> Express.
>>> The Accounts are from the ISP Freeserve/Orange so basically the
>>> same Account
>>> but with a different name before the '@' symbol.
>>
>> I am not personally familiar or use Freeserve. Do they provide
>> separate e-mail accounts for each user (i.e., the name before the
>> at-symbol)? Or do they only provide one mailbox that is shared
>> amongst multiple users?
>
> All the "different" email accounts provided by Freeserve (Wanadoo
> that was and is now Orange AFAIK) are in fact just aliases of the
> one master email address. they are in the format of
> (E-Mail Removed) and there used to be a workaraound
> when it was actually Freeserve (don't know whether it will work now)
> whereby in the Username in the account setup in the email client you
> could put the following:
> "username.freeserve.co.uk + myname" (without the quotes) and that
> would ONLY download email for the "myname" alias.
>
> HTH
>


Then Blueprint has no way to separate users that are accessing the
same mailbox. They get different usernames along with a password to
validate they have rights to use the e-mail provider's service but
they are all sharing the same mailbox. They are getting just one
e-mail account (i.e., just one mailbox).

The provider might have used the "+ myname" method to differentiate
between the mailbox items but apparently that's not true anymore or
stopped working. That trick only works at the server end because the
user is adding a trigger string to the username. E-mail clients don't
care about the usernames in the e-mail addresses included in the
headers of the actual mailbox items (for one, they aren't used to
deliver the mails, and for two, they can be bogus). They issue a LIST
command to find out if there are any items in the mailbox (which you
are sharing) and a UID command to get the unique ID of each one (so
your e-mail client can tell if it downloaded that item already or if
it is new). Only after the e-mail client has issued LIST and UID to
figure what new items are in the [shared] mailbox and after all those
new items have been downloaded can an e-mail client inspect the
headers to see what username was used in the To or Cc headers (but
cannot test against the Bcc header since it isn't in the received copy
of mails). That would be too late because now all new items have been
downloaded and other sharing the same mailbox won't get their
messages.

Blueprint is screwed in using a shared mailbox. If their "trick" of
modifying the username won't cause the mail server to list and deliver
mail items only for the specified username or trigger string, the
e-mail client can't do anything to separate them up at the mail server
and all items end up getting downloaded. Blueprint will need to get
REAL e-mail accounts so each of his user's mailboxes are separate from
every other user's mailbox.

Even if the trigger string still works (i.e., Blueprint got the
username syntax correct in Outlook and Outlook Express), Outlook
functions differently than Outlook Express. Outlook first downloads
all mail items before any rules can be exercised against them.
Outlook Express can look at some info for a mail item and then decide
whether or not to download it. The trigger string mechanism used by
Freeserve probably won't work with any e-mail client that first yanks
the mail and then interrogates it.

Thanks for your help guys, seems I'm screwed and can't use Outlook. Will have
to just go back to Outlook Express which will allow me to just download the
mail addressed to me. Shame as Outlook, looked OK.
Once again thanks.

"VanguardLH" wrote:

> "Gordon" wrote in message news:fe0gd5$c7p$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > "VanguardLH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> "Blueprint" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:1740CB05-AB8E-4A9A-BB28-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>> Sorry not to add that all computers are using XP Home (Sp2). Only
> >>> my computer
> >>> has Office 2007, the others have Works and will still use Outlook
> >>> Express.
> >>> The Accounts are from the ISP Freeserve/Orange so basically the
> >>> same Account
> >>> but with a different name before the '@' symbol.
> >>
> >> I am not personally familiar or use Freeserve. Do they provide
> >> separate e-mail accounts for each user (i.e., the name before the
> >> at-symbol)? Or do they only provide one mailbox that is shared
> >> amongst multiple users?
> >
> > All the "different" email accounts provided by Freeserve (Wanadoo
> > that was and is now Orange AFAIK) are in fact just aliases of the
> > one master email address. they are in the format of
> > (E-Mail Removed) and there used to be a workaraound
> > when it was actually Freeserve (don't know whether it will work now)
> > whereby in the Username in the account setup in the email client you
> > could put the following:
> > "username.freeserve.co.uk + myname" (without the quotes) and that
> > would ONLY download email for the "myname" alias.
> >
> > HTH
> >
>
>
> Then Blueprint has no way to separate users that are accessing the
> same mailbox. They get different usernames along with a password to
> validate they have rights to use the e-mail provider's service but
> they are all sharing the same mailbox. They are getting just one
> e-mail account (i.e., just one mailbox).
>
> The provider might have used the "+ myname" method to differentiate
> between the mailbox items but apparently that's not true anymore or
> stopped working. That trick only works at the server end because the
> user is adding a trigger string to the username. E-mail clients don't
> care about the usernames in the e-mail addresses included in the
> headers of the actual mailbox items (for one, they aren't used to
> deliver the mails, and for two, they can be bogus). They issue a LIST
> command to find out if there are any items in the mailbox (which you
> are sharing) and a UID command to get the unique ID of each one (so
> your e-mail client can tell if it downloaded that item already or if
> it is new). Only after the e-mail client has issued LIST and UID to
> figure what new items are in the [shared] mailbox and after all those
> new items have been downloaded can an e-mail client inspect the
> headers to see what username was used in the To or Cc headers (but
> cannot test against the Bcc header since it isn't in the received copy
> of mails). That would be too late because now all new items have been
> downloaded and other sharing the same mailbox won't get their
> messages.
>
> Blueprint is screwed in using a shared mailbox. If their "trick" of
> modifying the username won't cause the mail server to list and deliver
> mail items only for the specified username or trigger string, the
> e-mail client can't do anything to separate them up at the mail server
> and all items end up getting downloaded. Blueprint will need to get
> REAL e-mail accounts so each of his user's mailboxes are separate from
> every other user's mailbox.
>
> Even if the trigger string still works (i.e., Blueprint got the
> username syntax correct in Outlook and Outlook Express), Outlook
> functions differently than Outlook Express. Outlook first downloads
> all mail items before any rules can be exercised against them.
> Outlook Express can look at some info for a mail item and then decide
> whether or not to download it. The trigger string mechanism used by
> Freeserve probably won't work with any e-mail client that first yanks
> the mail and then interrogates it.
>
>
>
>