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anon
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      14th Apr 2005
I have an Epson Stylus CX5200 multifunction printer and all of a sudden the
magenta stopped working.
I replaced the ink with originals and all of a sudden all the heads are
giving me problems.
I have run the head cleaning process a dozen times and also re-seated and
recharges the catridges, but the nozzle check is very erratic. The Cyan will
work, then the Yellow and not the cyan, the magenta one is dead.
It was all fine two weeks ago and it has not been used that much - only
having printed around 50 A4 photographs in it's life so far (about a year
and a half).

I am an computer engineer, and am prepared to try and strip the printer head
down, and wonder if anyone has a code-of-practice or service manual which
would help. Should I try dismantling the head and soaking it in warm water
or what?

I once dismantled an Epson stylus 400 and got it to work, but only for a
short while before the printer head burned out.
Any useful information regarding print-head overhaul and replacement will be
greatly
appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Terry







 
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measekite
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      15th Apr 2005


anon wrote:

>I have an Epson Stylus CX5200 multifunction printer and all of a sudden the
>magenta stopped working.
>I replaced the ink with originals and all of a sudden all the heads are
>giving me problems.
>I have run the head cleaning process a dozen times and also re-seated and
>recharges the catridges, but the nozzle check is very erratic. The Cyan will
>work, then the Yellow and not the cyan, the magenta one is dead.
>It was all fine two weeks ago and it has not been used that much - only
>having printed around 50 A4 photographs in it's life so far (about a year
>and a half).
>
>I am an computer engineer, and am prepared to try and strip the printer head
>down, and wonder if anyone has a code-of-practice or service manual which
>would help. Should I try dismantling the head and soaking it in warm water
>or what?
>
>I once dismantled an Epson stylus 400 and got it to work, but only for a
>short while before the printer head burned out.
>Any useful information regarding print-head overhaul and replacement will be
>greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Terry
>
>


Are you and have you always been using Epson genuine OEM ink carts?

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jbuch
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      15th Apr 2005
You may have an air block now.

Others have written on how to deal with air block problems, and I don't
remember what they recommend.

anon wrote:

> I have an Epson Stylus CX5200 multifunction printer and all of a sudden the
> magenta stopped working.
> I replaced the ink with originals and all of a sudden all the heads are
> giving me problems.
> I have run the head cleaning process a dozen times and also re-seated and
> recharges the catridges, but the nozzle check is very erratic. The Cyan will
> work, then the Yellow and not the cyan, the magenta one is dead.
> It was all fine two weeks ago and it has not been used that much - only
> having printed around 50 A4 photographs in it's life so far (about a year
> and a half).
>
> I am an computer engineer, and am prepared to try and strip the printer head
> down, and wonder if anyone has a code-of-practice or service manual which
> would help. Should I try dismantling the head and soaking it in warm water
> or what?
>
> I once dismantled an Epson stylus 400 and got it to work, but only for a
> short while before the printer head burned out.
> Any useful information regarding print-head overhaul and replacement will be
> greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Terry
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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      15th Apr 2005
try : http://www.compassmicro.com/

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:43:39 -0500, jbuch <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>You may have an air block now.
>
>Others have written on how to deal with air block problems, and I don't
>remember what they recommend.
>
>anon wrote:
>
>> I have an Epson Stylus CX5200 multifunction printer and all of a sudden the
>> magenta stopped working.
>> I replaced the ink with originals and all of a sudden all the heads are
>> giving me problems.
>> I have run the head cleaning process a dozen times and also re-seated and
>> recharges the catridges, but the nozzle check is very erratic. The Cyan will
>> work, then the Yellow and not the cyan, the magenta one is dead.
>> It was all fine two weeks ago and it has not been used that much - only
>> having printed around 50 A4 photographs in it's life so far (about a year
>> and a half).
>>
>> I am an computer engineer, and am prepared to try and strip the printer head
>> down, and wonder if anyone has a code-of-practice or service manual which
>> would help. Should I try dismantling the head and soaking it in warm water
>> or what?
>>
>> I once dismantled an Epson stylus 400 and got it to work, but only for a
>> short while before the printer head burned out.
>> Any useful information regarding print-head overhaul and replacement will be
>> greatly
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Terry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>


 
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Tony
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      15th Apr 2005
Terry
You can try soaking overnight, my experience is that it works sometimes and not
always for very long. Distilled water is best (no tiny particles that may clog
the head).
Some people soak in Isopropyl Alcohol but there is evidence that alcohol can
damage some printheads. You need to be aware that printhead replacement can be
tricky with some epson printers, electronic re-alignment sometimes needs
special software, don't know this model so can't help there. But if you put the
old one back there should be no problem so long as you ensure the mechanical
alignment is precisely maintained.
Ink jet printers suffer from lack of use.... ie the more you use them the more
reliable the printheads are, they do not become clogged so easily if
used regularly. I recommend to our customers that they use their ink jet
printers at least twice a week if possible. The Epson zealots will say that non
Epson
ink will damage the heads. The truth is that there is good and not so good
compatible ink and the ink from a good manufacturer will not shorten a
printheads life.
(I do not want to get into a debate about this since it would go on forever,
lots of entrenched opinions there.)
If worst comes to worst you may have to replace the printer and I would
seriously look at HP (you get a new head with each cartridge) or Canon (the
IP4000 is a lot of printer for the money and the printhead is easily replaced
at a price!).
By the way the symptoms you describe match Epson printhead failure perfectly.
Good luck
Tony

"anon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I have an Epson Stylus CX5200 multifunction printer and all of a sudden the
>magenta stopped working.
>I replaced the ink with originals and all of a sudden all the heads are
>giving me problems.
>I have run the head cleaning process a dozen times and also re-seated and
>recharges the catridges, but the nozzle check is very erratic. The Cyan will
>work, then the Yellow and not the cyan, the magenta one is dead.
>It was all fine two weeks ago and it has not been used that much - only
>having printed around 50 A4 photographs in it's life so far (about a year
>and a half).
>
>I am an computer engineer, and am prepared to try and strip the printer head
>down, and wonder if anyone has a code-of-practice or service manual which
>would help. Should I try dismantling the head and soaking it in warm water
>or what?
>
>I once dismantled an Epson stylus 400 and got it to work, but only for a
>short while before the printer head burned out.
>Any useful information regarding print-head overhaul and replacement will be
>greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Terry
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


 
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Burt
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      15th Apr 2005
before you remove the print head or try any disassembly contact Arthur
Entlich at (E-Mail Removed) and ask him for his instructions on cleaning
an epson print head. Describe your problem to him as well. His info helped
my to clear my Epson printer clog. Mine clogged using Epson inks
exclusively.

"anon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:d3mm3m$g5k$(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have an Epson Stylus CX5200 multifunction printer and all of a sudden the
> magenta stopped working.
> I replaced the ink with originals and all of a sudden all the heads are
> giving me problems.
> I have run the head cleaning process a dozen times and also re-seated and
> recharges the catridges, but the nozzle check is very erratic. The Cyan
> will
> work, then the Yellow and not the cyan, the magenta one is dead.
> It was all fine two weeks ago and it has not been used that much - only
> having printed around 50 A4 photographs in it's life so far (about a year
> and a half).
>
> I am an computer engineer, and am prepared to try and strip the printer
> head
> down, and wonder if anyone has a code-of-practice or service manual which
> would help. Should I try dismantling the head and soaking it in warm water
> or what?
>
> I once dismantled an Epson stylus 400 and got it to work, but only for a
> short while before the printer head burned out.
> Any useful information regarding print-head overhaul and replacement will
> be
> greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Terry
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



 
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Arthur Entlich
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      15th Apr 2005
Hi Terry,

Please email me at the address in the header of this message and request
the Epson Cleaning Manual. It's free and you won't be spammed.

It explains how to resolve these problems, and has a special section
regarding C and CX printers.

I strongly suggest against removing the head, or sending pressurized
cleaning fluids through the heads. Many people have permanently damaged
their printers in that fashion.

Art

anon wrote:

> I have an Epson Stylus CX5200 multifunction printer and all of a sudden the
> magenta stopped working.
> I replaced the ink with originals and all of a sudden all the heads are
> giving me problems.
> I have run the head cleaning process a dozen times and also re-seated and
> recharges the catridges, but the nozzle check is very erratic. The Cyan will
> work, then the Yellow and not the cyan, the magenta one is dead.
> It was all fine two weeks ago and it has not been used that much - only
> having printed around 50 A4 photographs in it's life so far (about a year
> and a half).
>
> I am an computer engineer, and am prepared to try and strip the printer head
> down, and wonder if anyone has a code-of-practice or service manual which
> would help. Should I try dismantling the head and soaking it in warm water
> or what?
>
> I once dismantled an Epson stylus 400 and got it to work, but only for a
> short while before the printer head burned out.
> Any useful information regarding print-head overhaul and replacement will be
> greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Terry
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

 
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Arthur Entlich
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      15th Apr 2005
I appreciate the intent of this message, but this information needs to
be expanded upon.

I'm not going to go into detail here. If you are needing help with an
Epson printer, please request my Epson Cleaning Manual via private
email. It is over 30 pages long, which is why I won't go into detail here.

Distilled water is not a good solvent for Epson inks, either the dye or
pigment colorant types. Using pure isopropyl alcohol is also an
incomplete cleaning solution, but it can be used as a component in the
formulation of cleaner.

Head removal is not wise and unnecessary in over 90% of the cases.
Soaking removed heads can kill them if they are soaked over a certain
height.

Art


Tony wrote:

> Terry
> You can try soaking overnight, my experience is that it works sometimes and not
> always for very long. Distilled water is best (no tiny particles that may clog
> the head).
> Some people soak in Isopropyl Alcohol but there is evidence that alcohol can
> damage some printheads. You need to be aware that printhead replacement can be
> tricky with some epson printers, electronic re-alignment sometimes needs
> special software, don't know this model so can't help there. But if you put the
> old one back there should be no problem so long as you ensure the mechanical
> alignment is precisely maintained.
> Ink jet printers suffer from lack of use.... ie the more you use them the more
> reliable the printheads are, they do not become clogged so easily if
> used regularly. I recommend to our customers that they use their ink jet
> printers at least twice a week if possible. The Epson zealots will say that non
> Epson
> ink will damage the heads. The truth is that there is good and not so good
> compatible ink and the ink from a good manufacturer will not shorten a
> printheads life.
> (I do not want to get into a debate about this since it would go on forever,
> lots of entrenched opinions there.)
> If worst comes to worst you may have to replace the printer and I would
> seriously look at HP (you get a new head with each cartridge) or Canon (the
> IP4000 is a lot of printer for the money and the printhead is easily replaced
> at a price!).
> By the way the symptoms you describe match Epson printhead failure perfectly.
> Good luck
> Tony
>
> "anon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>I have an Epson Stylus CX5200 multifunction printer and all of a sudden the
>>magenta stopped working.
>>I replaced the ink with originals and all of a sudden all the heads are
>>giving me problems.
>>I have run the head cleaning process a dozen times and also re-seated and
>>recharges the catridges, but the nozzle check is very erratic. The Cyan will
>>work, then the Yellow and not the cyan, the magenta one is dead.
>>It was all fine two weeks ago and it has not been used that much - only
>>having printed around 50 A4 photographs in it's life so far (about a year
>>and a half).
>>
>>I am an computer engineer, and am prepared to try and strip the printer head
>>down, and wonder if anyone has a code-of-practice or service manual which
>>would help. Should I try dismantling the head and soaking it in warm water
>>or what?
>>
>>I once dismantled an Epson stylus 400 and got it to work, but only for a
>>short while before the printer head burned out.
>>Any useful information regarding print-head overhaul and replacement will be
>>greatly
>>appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks in advance
>>
>>Terry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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      15th Apr 2005
I only use originals...


"measekite" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>
> anon wrote:
>
> >I have an Epson Stylus CX5200 multifunction printer and all of a sudden

the
> >magenta stopped working.
> >I replaced the ink with originals and all of a sudden all the heads are
> >giving me problems.
> >I have run the head cleaning process a dozen times and also re-seated and
> >recharges the catridges, but the nozzle check is very erratic. The Cyan

will
> >work, then the Yellow and not the cyan, the magenta one is dead.
> >It was all fine two weeks ago and it has not been used that much - only
> >having printed around 50 A4 photographs in it's life so far (about a year
> >and a half).
> >
> >I am an computer engineer, and am prepared to try and strip the printer

head
> >down, and wonder if anyone has a code-of-practice or service manual which
> >would help. Should I try dismantling the head and soaking it in warm

water
> >or what?
> >
> >I once dismantled an Epson stylus 400 and got it to work, but only for a
> >short while before the printer head burned out.
> >Any useful information regarding print-head overhaul and replacement will

be
> >greatly
> >appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >
> >Terry
> >
> >

>
> Are you and have you always been using Epson genuine OEM ink carts?
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >



 
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anon
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      15th Apr 2005
Thank you for that feedback Tony.
There seem to be so many things that can go wrong - I could end up paying
out more than the printer is worth to end up with a still malfuntioning
printer. The only reason I went for the CX5200 in the first place was for
it's individual inks and scanner quality.

I have had four failures with different epson printers and this chip of mine
now says that I have only 50% remaining and I haven't seen so much as a drop
on paper yet. I cannot see any coming out of the bottom of the printer yet
so it can only be the Epson chip that is trying to bleed me dry out of
another 36 UK pounds.
What with the Epson unreliability, and the expensive ink cartridges, I am
thinking Epson is a bad buy whatever the model.
I am now thinking about Canon as some of their models are individual inks,
and some printers have a seperate ink head which can be replaced.

Thank you very much for the feedback.

Terry

<Tony> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Terry
> You can try soaking overnight, my experience is that it works sometimes

and not
> always for very long. Distilled water is best (no tiny particles that may

clog
> the head).
> Some people soak in Isopropyl Alcohol but there is evidence that alcohol

can
> damage some printheads. You need to be aware that printhead replacement

can be
> tricky with some epson printers, electronic re-alignment sometimes needs
> special software, don't know this model so can't help there. But if you

put the
> old one back there should be no problem so long as you ensure the

mechanical
> alignment is precisely maintained.
> Ink jet printers suffer from lack of use.... ie the more you use them the

more
> reliable the printheads are, they do not become clogged so easily if
> used regularly. I recommend to our customers that they use their ink jet
> printers at least twice a week if possible. The Epson zealots will say

that non
> Epson
> ink will damage the heads. The truth is that there is good and not so good


> compatible ink and the ink from a good manufacturer will not shorten a
> printheads life.
> (I do not want to get into a debate about this since it would go on

forever,
> lots of entrenched opinions there.)
> If worst comes to worst you may have to replace the printer and I would
> seriously look at HP (you get a new head with each cartridge) or Canon

(the
> IP4000 is a lot of printer for the money and the printhead is easily

replaced
> at a price!).
> By the way the symptoms you describe match Epson printhead failure

perfectly.
> Good luck
> Tony
>
> "anon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >I have an Epson Stylus CX5200 multifunction printer and all of a sudden

the
> >magenta stopped working.
> >I replaced the ink with originals and all of a sudden all the heads are
> >giving me problems.
> >I have run the head cleaning process a dozen times and also re-seated and
> >recharges the catridges, but the nozzle check is very erratic. The Cyan

will
> >work, then the Yellow and not the cyan, the magenta one is dead.
> >It was all fine two weeks ago and it has not been used that much - only
> >having printed around 50 A4 photographs in it's life so far (about a year
> >and a half).
> >
> >I am an computer engineer, and am prepared to try and strip the printer

head
> >down, and wonder if anyone has a code-of-practice or service manual which
> >would help. Should I try dismantling the head and soaking it in warm

water
> >or what?
> >
> >I once dismantled an Epson stylus 400 and got it to work, but only for a
> >short while before the printer head burned out.
> >Any useful information regarding print-head overhaul and replacement will

be
> >greatly
> >appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >
> >Terry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

>



 
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