I have a problem that is driving me crazy, As you know i have just updated my
machine from AMD based to Intel this is going fine and all working sweet as,
I have sold the old mobo, processor and ram to a friend and installed in his
machine for him, All appears to have gone well with the install of the os, It
boots okay, has update windows okay, activated okay etc etc, However when I
install the graphic drivers for his 7600GS it goes through the motions then
gives a blank screen, sound etc can still be heard indicating that he machine
is working but not displaying, Try a reboot and you get as far as the Windows
loading screen with the blue bar and then just before the log on screen would
appear it goes blank again, Sytem boots into safe mode okay with display and
also vga mode okay with display.
Remove the drivers and the system will boot normally into windows again with
standard vga mode.
Attempt to re-install the drivers and the same thing happens all over again.

I have tried both DVI and VGA cable to rule out resolution and refresh rate.

The only realistic conclusion that I can come up with is that maybe as my
monitor is a High Def Synchmaster wide screen jobbie, that the card when the
drivers are installed is kicking out a resolution / refresh that the monitor
can't use.

I have tried various different versions of the forceware drivers.

Anyone else have any ideas.

MGBassace wrote:

> I have a problem that is driving me crazy, As you know i have just updated
> my machine from AMD based to Intel this is going fine and all working
> sweet as, I have sold the old mobo, processor and ram to a friend and
> installed in his machine for him, All appears to have gone well with the
> install of the os, It boots okay, has update windows okay, activated okay
> etc etc, However when I install the graphic drivers for his 7600GS it goes
> through the motions then gives a blank screen, sound etc can still be
> heard indicating that he machine is working but not displaying, Try a
> reboot and you get as far as the Windows loading screen with the blue bar
> and then just before the log on screen would appear it goes blank again,
> Sytem boots into safe mode okay with display and also vga mode okay with
> display. Remove the drivers and the system will boot normally into windows
> again with standard vga mode.
> Attempt to re-install the drivers and the same thing happens all over
> again.
>
> I have tried both DVI and VGA cable to rule out resolution and refresh
> rate.
>
> The only realistic conclusion that I can come up with is that maybe as my
> monitor is a High Def Synchmaster wide screen jobbie, that the card when
> the drivers are installed is kicking out a resolution / refresh that the
> monitor can't use.
>
> I have tried various different versions of the forceware drivers.

I can't imagine why you think we would know anything about what you've done
except that you're posting using the web interface to these Usenet
newsgroups and you think this is a web forum (it's not).

As for whether the card can handle your monitor, here are the card's tech
specs (from Nvidia - http://www.nvidia.com/object/7_series_techspecs.html)

Advanced Display Functionality

* Dual integrated 400MHz RAMDACs for analog display resolutions up to
and including 2048x1536 at 85Hz
* Dual-link DVI capability to drive the industry's largest and highest
resolution digital flat panel displays up to 2560x16001
* Integrated HDTV encoder provides analog TV-output
(Component/Composite/S-Video) up to 1080i resolution
* Full NVIDIA® nView® multi-display technology capability

Those are pretty high specs so unless you have a monitor that is covering an
entire wall I doubt that's the reason. However, test by attaching the
computer to a different monitor. If the problem continues, the video card
is failing and should be replaced.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

Malke wrote:
> MGBassace wrote:
>
>> I have a problem that is driving me crazy, As you know i have just updated
>> my machine from AMD based to Intel this is going fine and all working
>> sweet as, I have sold the old mobo, processor and ram to a friend and
>> installed in his machine for him, All appears to have gone well with the
>> install of the os, It boots okay, has update windows okay, activated okay
>> etc etc, However when I install the graphic drivers for his 7600GS it goes
>> through the motions then gives a blank screen, sound etc can still be
>> heard indicating that he machine is working but not displaying, Try a
>> reboot and you get as far as the Windows loading screen with the blue bar
>> and then just before the log on screen would appear it goes blank again,
>> Sytem boots into safe mode okay with display and also vga mode okay with
>> display. Remove the drivers and the system will boot normally into windows
>> again with standard vga mode.
>> Attempt to re-install the drivers and the same thing happens all over
>> again.
>>
>> I have tried both DVI and VGA cable to rule out resolution and refresh
>> rate.
>>
>> The only realistic conclusion that I can come up with is that maybe as my
>> monitor is a High Def Synchmaster wide screen jobbie, that the card when
>> the drivers are installed is kicking out a resolution / refresh that the
>> monitor can't use.
>>
>> I have tried various different versions of the forceware drivers.
>
> I can't imagine why you think we would know anything about what you've done
> except that you're posting using the web interface to these Usenet
> newsgroups and you think this is a web forum (it's not).
>
> As for whether the card can handle your monitor, here are the card's tech
> specs (from Nvidia - http://www.nvidia.com/object/7_series_techspecs.html)
>
> Advanced Display Functionality
>
> * Dual integrated 400MHz RAMDACs for analog display resolutions up to
> and including 2048x1536 at 85Hz
> * Dual-link DVI capability to drive the industry's largest and highest
> resolution digital flat panel displays up to 2560x16001
> * Integrated HDTV encoder provides analog TV-output
> (Component/Composite/S-Video) up to 1080i resolution
> * Full NVIDIA® nView® multi-display technology capability
>
> Those are pretty high specs so unless you have a monitor that is covering an
> entire wall I doubt that's the reason. However, test by attaching the
> computer to a different monitor. If the problem continues, the video card
> is failing and should be replaced.
>
> Malke


Somewhere in the BIOS there is probably a setting called something like
"Display Priority" or "Display Default" and that often has a couple of
options. Whatever it is set at try the other one.

My 7600 just died from blown capacitors, - worth checking for that too.

Ah thats what you get for copying and pasting whilst at work, however it was
sufficient get my point across without the need for such a snotty pedantic
retort.

However thank your for your reply, I suspect that the card may be failing,
This wouldn't surprise me as the lad that I am updating the PC for has a
nasty habit of frying Graphics cards, I will try another monitor,
Unfortunatley I cannot try the card in another pc as most people i know
around here are on PCIe and the card in question is AGP.



"Malke" wrote:

> MGBassace wrote:
>
> > I have a problem that is driving me crazy, As you know i have just updated
> > my machine from AMD based to Intel this is going fine and all working
> > sweet as, I have sold the old mobo, processor and ram to a friend and
> > installed in his machine for him, All appears to have gone well with the
> > install of the os, It boots okay, has update windows okay, activated okay
> > etc etc, However when I install the graphic drivers for his 7600GS it goes
> > through the motions then gives a blank screen, sound etc can still be
> > heard indicating that he machine is working but not displaying, Try a
> > reboot and you get as far as the Windows loading screen with the blue bar
> > and then just before the log on screen would appear it goes blank again,
> > Sytem boots into safe mode okay with display and also vga mode okay with
> > display. Remove the drivers and the system will boot normally into windows
> > again with standard vga mode.
> > Attempt to re-install the drivers and the same thing happens all over
> > again.
> >
> > I have tried both DVI and VGA cable to rule out resolution and refresh
> > rate.
> >
> > The only realistic conclusion that I can come up with is that maybe as my
> > monitor is a High Def Synchmaster wide screen jobbie, that the card when
> > the drivers are installed is kicking out a resolution / refresh that the
> > monitor can't use.
> >
> > I have tried various different versions of the forceware drivers.
>
> I can't imagine why you think we would know anything about what you've done
> except that you're posting using the web interface to these Usenet
> newsgroups and you think this is a web forum (it's not).
>
> As for whether the card can handle your monitor, here are the card's tech
> specs (from Nvidia - http://www.nvidia.com/object/7_series_techspecs.html)
>
> Advanced Display Functionality
>
> * Dual integrated 400MHz RAMDACs for analog display resolutions up to
> and including 2048x1536 at 85Hz
> * Dual-link DVI capability to drive the industry's largest and highest
> resolution digital flat panel displays up to 2560x16001
> * Integrated HDTV encoder provides analog TV-output
> (Component/Composite/S-Video) up to 1080i resolution
> * Full NVIDIA® nView® multi-display technology capability
>
> Those are pretty high specs so unless you have a monitor that is covering an
> entire wall I doubt that's the reason. However, test by attaching the
> computer to a different monitor. If the problem continues, the video card
> is failing and should be replaced.
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>
>

Hi charlie, I know what you are getting at, I have the options of PCI/AGP as
it is a dual AGP and PCIe board, I have set this to AGP. No other options
relating to the graphics other than the usual arpeture settings.

"Charlie Tame" wrote:

> Malke wrote:
> > MGBassace wrote:
> >
> >> I have a problem that is driving me crazy, As you know i have just updated
> >> my machine from AMD based to Intel this is going fine and all working
> >> sweet as, I have sold the old mobo, processor and ram to a friend and
> >> installed in his machine for him, All appears to have gone well with the
> >> install of the os, It boots okay, has update windows okay, activated okay
> >> etc etc, However when I install the graphic drivers for his 7600GS it goes
> >> through the motions then gives a blank screen, sound etc can still be
> >> heard indicating that he machine is working but not displaying, Try a
> >> reboot and you get as far as the Windows loading screen with the blue bar
> >> and then just before the log on screen would appear it goes blank again,
> >> Sytem boots into safe mode okay with display and also vga mode okay with
> >> display. Remove the drivers and the system will boot normally into windows
> >> again with standard vga mode.
> >> Attempt to re-install the drivers and the same thing happens all over
> >> again.
> >>
> >> I have tried both DVI and VGA cable to rule out resolution and refresh
> >> rate.
> >>
> >> The only realistic conclusion that I can come up with is that maybe as my
> >> monitor is a High Def Synchmaster wide screen jobbie, that the card when
> >> the drivers are installed is kicking out a resolution / refresh that the
> >> monitor can't use.
> >>
> >> I have tried various different versions of the forceware drivers.
> >
> > I can't imagine why you think we would know anything about what you've done
> > except that you're posting using the web interface to these Usenet
> > newsgroups and you think this is a web forum (it's not).
> >
> > As for whether the card can handle your monitor, here are the card's tech
> > specs (from Nvidia - http://www.nvidia.com/object/7_series_techspecs.html)
> >
> > Advanced Display Functionality
> >
> > * Dual integrated 400MHz RAMDACs for analog display resolutions up to
> > and including 2048x1536 at 85Hz
> > * Dual-link DVI capability to drive the industry's largest and highest
> > resolution digital flat panel displays up to 2560x16001
> > * Integrated HDTV encoder provides analog TV-output
> > (Component/Composite/S-Video) up to 1080i resolution
> > * Full NVIDIA® nView® multi-display technology capability
> >
> > Those are pretty high specs so unless you have a monitor that is covering an
> > entire wall I doubt that's the reason. However, test by attaching the
> > computer to a different monitor. If the problem continues, the video card
> > is failing and should be replaced.
> >
> > Malke
>
>
> Somewhere in the BIOS there is probably a setting called something like
> "Display Priority" or "Display Default" and that often has a couple of
> options. Whatever it is set at try the other one.
>
> My 7600 just died from blown capacitors, - worth checking for that too.
>

MGBassace wrote:

> Ah thats what you get for copying and pasting whilst at work, however it
> was sufficient get my point across without the need for such a snotty
> pedantic retort.
>
> However thank your for your reply, I suspect that the card may be
> failing,
> This wouldn't surprise me as the lad that I am updating the PC for has a
> nasty habit of frying Graphics cards, I will try another monitor,
> Unfortunatley I cannot try the card in another pc as most people i know
> around here are on PCIe and the card in question is AGP.

Sorry you thought my reply was "snotty pedantic". I'm not sure why you
thought that, but if I hurt your feelings by explaining that this isn't a
web forum where we might be following your previous postings, I apologize.

If you can't do the testing, then you need to take it somewhere that can. I
didn't suggest you try the card in another machine - please reread my
reply, skipping the bits you felt were "snotty pedantic". I would never
suggest putting a questionable video card into another computer.

I suggested:

1. Attach the computer to another monitor to see if the problem continues
(as I suspect it will but only testing will prove this). If all is well,
you know the issue is with the original monitor.

2. If all is not well fro #1 above, uninstall the card from the current
computer and put in another AGP card to test.

Do not put the questionable card into another computer. If you don't have
another monitor or AGP card to use for testing purposes, get one or take
the machine to a local computer professional who will have the equipment
necessary for testing.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

Sorry Malke I think we are getting of on the wrong foot here, I only
mentioned not being able to try the card in another machine to save someone
else making that suggestion, I didnt mean to imply that you had suggested it.

I will try an different monitor first to rule out "out of range" issues. I
posted on here incase anyone else had come across this and I was Missing the
the obvious.

I don't want to take the pc to a professional for testing as I dont want to
pay someone else to sort this, I am competent enough myself and will see if I
can pick up a cheapo AGP card from somewhere if the above monitor test doesnt
suffice.

I apologise for saying your post was Snotty and Pedantic but i get
thoroughly fed up of people getting flamed just because they made one tiny
error. I am microsoft certified MSDST and Work as Network Admin for my
company but we all make mistakes when in a rush after all we are only human.

Thanks for the speedy response by the way. After somewhat digressing on the
subject abit, I will let you know.

"Malke" wrote:

> MGBassace wrote:
>
> > Ah thats what you get for copying and pasting whilst at work, however it
> > was sufficient get my point across without the need for such a snotty
> > pedantic retort.
> >
> > However thank your for your reply, I suspect that the card may be
> > failing,
> > This wouldn't surprise me as the lad that I am updating the PC for has a
> > nasty habit of frying Graphics cards, I will try another monitor,
> > Unfortunatley I cannot try the card in another pc as most people i know
> > around here are on PCIe and the card in question is AGP.
>
> Sorry you thought my reply was "snotty pedantic". I'm not sure why you
> thought that, but if I hurt your feelings by explaining that this isn't a
> web forum where we might be following your previous postings, I apologize.
>
> If you can't do the testing, then you need to take it somewhere that can. I
> didn't suggest you try the card in another machine - please reread my
> reply, skipping the bits you felt were "snotty pedantic". I would never
> suggest putting a questionable video card into another computer.
>
> I suggested:
>
> 1. Attach the computer to another monitor to see if the problem continues
> (as I suspect it will but only testing will prove this). If all is well,
> you know the issue is with the original monitor.
>
> 2. If all is not well fro #1 above, uninstall the card from the current
> computer and put in another AGP card to test.
>
> Do not put the questionable card into another computer. If you don't have
> another monitor or AGP card to use for testing purposes, get one or take
> the machine to a local computer professional who will have the equipment
> necessary for testing.
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>
>