Just spent an "interesting" (to put it mildly!) weekend on this project with
the other computer, to enable a microprocessor upgrade. I wouldn't
recommend it for the faint-hearted, suffice it to say, or you might end up
with a paperweight. :-)

You know, it wouldn't be quite so bad, except that in some cases, there is
no reverse path available (i..e, it's a one way trip) - which seems
unforgiveable, on their part!

My question is: why do these BIOS manufacturers sometimes make it so damn
difficult to upgrade/downgrade or go back to a previous version (especially
when going from one manufacturer to one its subsidiaries, or vice versa
(like Dell and Intel)?

And not only that, but even block certain upgrades with certain chips, just
out of self-centered arrogance on their part (and not due to real chip
limitations)?

You may wish to pose your question to the BIOS manufacturer. Microsoft
doesn't manufacture BIOS and therefore your question is inappropriate to
these groups.

--

Xandros


"Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%23Ofly3$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Just spent an "interesting" (to put it mildly!) weekend on this project
> with the other computer, to enable a microprocessor upgrade. I wouldn't
> recommend it for the faint-hearted, suffice it to say, or you might end up
> with a paperweight. :-)
>
> You know, it wouldn't be quite so bad, except that in some cases, there is
> no reverse path available (i..e, it's a one way trip) - which seems
> unforgiveable, on their part!
>
> My question is: why do these BIOS manufacturers sometimes make it so damn
> difficult to upgrade/downgrade or go back to a previous version
> (especially when going from one manufacturer to one its subsidiaries, or
> vice versa (like Dell and Intel)?
>
> And not only that, but even block certain upgrades with certain chips,
> just out of self-centered arrogance on their part (and not due to real
> chip limitations)?
>

Xandros wrote:
> You may wish to pose your question to the BIOS manufacturer.

I don't.

> Microsoft doesn't manufacture BIOS and therefore your question is
> inappropriate to these groups.

I'm talking to people in a newsgroup who might have had some experience with
it, not IBM. And yes, BIOS *does* indeed tie in with the operating
system, laddie.

> Xandros
>
>
> "Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%23Ofly3$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Just spent an "interesting" (to put it mildly!) weekend on this project
>> with the other computer, to enable a microprocessor upgrade. I wouldn't
>> recommend it for the faint-hearted, suffice it to say, or you might end
>> up
>> with a paperweight. :-)
>>
>> You know, it wouldn't be quite so bad, except that in some cases, there
>> is
>> no reverse path available (i..e, it's a one way trip) - which seems
>> unforgiveable, on their part!
>>
>> My question is: why do these BIOS manufacturers sometimes make it so
>> damn
>> difficult to upgrade/downgrade or go back to a previous version
>> (especially when going from one manufacturer to one its subsidiaries, or
>> vice versa (like Dell and Intel)?
>>
>> And not only that, but even block certain upgrades with certain chips,
>> just out of self-centered arrogance on their part (and not due to real
>> chip limitations)?

"Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I'm talking to people in a newsgroup who might have had some experience with
>it, not IBM. And yes, BIOS *does* indeed tie in with the operating
>system, laddie.

So does Microsoft Word, but this ain't the place to ask MS Word
questions either, pops.

PD43 wrote:
> "Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> I'm talking to people in a newsgroup who might have had some experience
>> with
>> it, not IBM. And yes, BIOS *does* indeed tie in with the operating
>> system, laddie.
>
> So does Microsoft Word, but this ain't the place to ask MS Word
> questions either, pops.

Big difference between Microsoft Word, and which paragraph style to use, and
BIOS, laddie.

"Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>> questions either, pops.
>
>Big difference between Microsoft Word, and which paragraph style to use, and
>BIOS, laddie.

Ask yer BIOS question in windowsxp.hardware pops.

On Mar 12, 12:00*am, "Bill in Co." <not_really_h...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> Just spent an "interesting" (to put it mildly!) weekend on this project with
> the other computer, to enable a microprocessor upgrade. * I wouldn't
> recommend it for the faint-hearted, suffice it to say, or you might end up
> with a paperweight. * *:-)
>
> You know, it wouldn't be quite so bad, except that in some cases, there is
> no reverse path available (i..e, it's a one way trip) - which seems
> unforgiveable, on their part!
>
> My question is: *why do these BIOS manufacturers sometimes make it so damn
> difficult to upgrade/downgrade or go back to a previous version (especially
> when going from one manufacturer to one its subsidiaries, or vice versa
> (like Dell and Intel)?
>
> And not only that, but even block certain upgrades with certain chips, just
> out of self-centered arrogance on their part (and not due to real chip
> limitations)?

As previously stated, this is not really a XP question.

BIOS manufacturers tend to create their chips fast and at the lowest
cost. Some manuafcturers do provide a downgrade path and others make
soem BIOS with a spare chip.

BIOSes are currently extremely important to motherboard as these store
how to access the PC's components correctly so updates most be done
correctly. Update applications must make sure that you the user
definiately want to do an update and must verify that the update
completes correct.

You show also note that Intel is trying to replace the BIOS chips with
a different technology but since BIOS is used on most motherboards, it
will take time.

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:00:06 -0600, "Bill in Co."
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Just spent an "interesting" (to put it mildly!) weekend on this project with
>the other computer, to enable a microprocessor upgrade. I wouldn't
>recommend it for the faint-hearted, suffice it to say, or you might end up
>with a paperweight. :-)
>
>You know, it wouldn't be quite so bad, except that in some cases, there is
>no reverse path available (i..e, it's a one way trip) - which seems
>unforgiveable, on their part!
>
>My question is: why do these BIOS manufacturers sometimes make it so damn
>difficult to upgrade/downgrade or go back to a previous version (especially
>when going from one manufacturer to one its subsidiaries, or vice versa
>(like Dell and Intel)?
>
>And not only that, but even block certain upgrades with certain chips, just
>out of self-centered arrogance on their part (and not due to real chip
>limitations)?
>

Why do idiots bring all this in a group that is about XP and has
nothing to do about what the group is for?

Just stop Professor Farnsworth...Great News, Everyond.

PaulMaudib wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:00:06 -0600, "Bill in Co."
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Just spent an "interesting" (to put it mildly!) weekend on this project
>> with
>> the other computer, to enable a microprocessor upgrade. I wouldn't
>> recommend it for the faint-hearted, suffice it to say, or you might end
>> up
>> with a paperweight. :-)
>>
>> You know, it wouldn't be quite so bad, except that in some cases, there
>> is
>> no reverse path available (i..e, it's a one way trip) - which seems
>> unforgiveable, on their part!
>>
>> My question is: why do these BIOS manufacturers sometimes make it so
>> damn
>> difficult to upgrade/downgrade or go back to a previous version
>> (especially
>> when going from one manufacturer to one its subsidiaries, or vice versa
>> (like Dell and Intel)?
>>
>> And not only that, but even block certain upgrades with certain chips,
>> just
>> out of self-centered arrogance on their part (and not due to real chip
>> limitations)?
>>
>
> Why do idiots bring all this in a group that is about XP and has
> nothing to do about what the group is for?

Because we're trying to emulate you in absentia, Bubba.

"Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%23Ofly3$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Just spent an "interesting" (to put it mildly!) weekend on this project
> with the other computer, to enable a microprocessor upgrade. I wouldn't
> recommend it for the faint-hearted, suffice it to say, or you might end up
> with a paperweight. :-)
>
> You know, it wouldn't be quite so bad, except that in some cases, there is
> no reverse path available (i..e, it's a one way trip) - which seems
> unforgiveable, on their part!
>
> My question is: why do these BIOS manufacturers sometimes make it so damn
> difficult to upgrade/downgrade or go back to a previous version
> (especially when going from one manufacturer to one its subsidiaries, or
> vice versa (like Dell and Intel)?
>
> And not only that, but even block certain upgrades with certain chips,
> just out of self-centered arrogance on their part (and not due to real
> chip limitations)?
>

All the motherboards I've dealt with have had an Award bios on them. I've
never run into the discrepancies you're speaking of as a result of an
attempted bios flash. The option to save the current bios to floppy has
been around for a long, long time.

Paramount to flashing the bios in my learning experiences was setting the
bios settings to default both before and after the flash. Perhaps, clearing
the cmos from time to time as well.

That all was with single bios chip configurations.

My current dual bios chip configuration on my current motherboard makes all
of that so much easier in the case of a botched bios flash. Also using
Award bios.

--
Dave

My vote in this primary was for the lesser
of many evils...