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johnn
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      2nd Mar 2009
I have a relatively new computer, with plenty of memory, HD space etc.
However, this is probably immaterial.

One day last week, when I started the computer, it just sat there with the BIOS splash screen
showing.
Pressing F2 (to access the BIOS) had no effect.
After about 90 - 100 seconds, the computer booted.

This is now happening every time. Once the computer has booted, it works great.

My MB is Intel Corporation DG35EC AAE29266-205
My BIOS is Intel Corp. ECG3510M.86A.0107.2008.0826.1637

I have checked with the Intel site, and there is no newer version of the BIOS available.

Is it possible that the BIOS looks for certain components it can not find, and then waits to time
out and start the computer?

Thanks for any ideas!
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Malke
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      2nd Mar 2009
johnn wrote:

> I have a relatively new computer, with plenty of memory, HD space etc.
> However, this is probably immaterial.
>
> One day last week, when I started the computer, it just sat there with the
> BIOS splash screen showing.
> Pressing F2 (to access the BIOS) had no effect.
> After about 90 - 100 seconds, the computer booted.
>
> This is now happening every time. Once the computer has booted, it works
> great.
>
> My MB is Intel Corporation DG35EC AAE29266-205
> My BIOS is Intel Corp. ECG3510M.86A.0107.2008.0826.1637
>
> I have checked with the Intel site, and there is no newer version of the
> BIOS available.
>
> Is it possible that the BIOS looks for certain components it can not find,
> and then waits to time
> out and start the computer?


When you boot, your computer goes through the Power On Self Test (POST) and
yes, if it is expecting to find components that aren't there it will time
out. Check your boot order to see if you have a network boot first in the
boot priority (although usually you'll get a message). Or perhaps you have
a floppy drive as first that doesn't exist. Try putting the hard drive
first, optical drive second.

Did you add a USB device? Make any other hardware changes? Have a new USB
stick or printer plugged in while booting?

However, it should be noted that these things don't happen all by
themselves. If you really made no changes to the hardware or the boot
priority, you are having hardware issues. Since this is a new computer, I
would not wait to exercise the warranty. In any case, this behavior has
nothing to do with Windows since the problem arises before the operating
system is even booted. So if the computer mftr.'s bottom tier tech support
tells you to reinstall Windows, speak to someone who knows what s/he is
talking about.

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Lil' Dave
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      2nd Mar 2009
"johnn" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have a relatively new computer, with plenty of memory, HD space etc.
> However, this is probably immaterial.
>
> One day last week, when I started the computer, it just sat there with the
> BIOS splash screen
> showing.
> Pressing F2 (to access the BIOS) had no effect.
> After about 90 - 100 seconds, the computer booted.
>
> This is now happening every time. Once the computer has booted, it works
> great.
>
> My MB is Intel Corporation DG35EC AAE29266-205
> My BIOS is Intel Corp. ECG3510M.86A.0107.2008.0826.1637
>
> I have checked with the Intel site, and there is no newer version of the
> BIOS available.
>
> Is it possible that the BIOS looks for certain components it can not find,
> and then waits to time
> out and start the computer?
>
> Thanks for any ideas!
> __________________________________
> johnn
> __________________________________
> "God is dead"
> - Nietzsche (1844-1935)
> "Nietzsche is dead"
> - God


The bios does have time allowances for looking for devices. The time you
mentioned is way out of league for that. And I don't know if you're saying
the PC from switched on to XP fully booted is that time frame, or while the
bios is doing POST. And, I don't know, if its the former, what is normal
time for XP to finish booting on your specific PC. And, if its the former
as well, how much additional time you're speaking of.
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johnn
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      3rd Mar 2009
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:10:31 -0500, johnn <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I have a relatively new computer, with plenty of memory, HD space etc.
>However, this is probably immaterial.
>
>One day last week, when I started the computer, it just sat there with the BIOS splash screen
>showing.
>Pressing F2 (to access the BIOS) had no effect.
>After about 90 - 100 seconds, the computer booted.
>
>This is now happening every time. Once the computer has booted, it works great.
>
>My MB is Intel Corporation DG35EC AAE29266-205
>My BIOS is Intel Corp. ECG3510M.86A.0107.2008.0826.1637
>
>I have checked with the Intel site, and there is no newer version of the BIOS available.
>
>Is it possible that the BIOS looks for certain components it can not find, and then waits to time
>out and start the computer?
>
>Thanks for any ideas!


Thanks, people, for responding.
It had me baffled, but finally the answer came:
I have an external (plugs into a USB port) Verbatim 15-in-1 card reader.
When plugged in, this unit is seen by the system as four drives.
Well, it seems the unit went kaput, and the BIOS was trying to read defective drives.
Simply unplugging the unit fixed things.

Thanks again!
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Malke
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      3rd Mar 2009
johnn wrote:

>
> Thanks, people, for responding.
> It had me baffled, but finally the answer came:
> I have an external (plugs into a USB port) Verbatim 15-in-1 card reader.
> When plugged in, this unit is seen by the system as four drives.
> Well, it seems the unit went kaput, and the BIOS was trying to read
> defective drives. Simply unplugging the unit fixed things.


Glad you got it sorted. Thanks for updating the thread.

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Nurzena
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      16th Apr 2009
I have the same problem. I have a EMachine W3052. My problem is that it will
not boot on it's own sometimes it will but only after I turn the pc on and
off over and over. It has the EMachines Logo and sits there. I press f10
and if I'm lucky it goes to boot options. please help. I have unpluged
it. I have moved the pc, ( maybe the chi was the problem) it is getting
old oh the pc is nearly 3 1/2 yrs old. but my son put a Radion gamer card
, wireles key and mouse and fast download. please help.

"Malke" wrote:

> johnn wrote:
>
> >
> > Thanks, people, for responding.
> > It had me baffled, but finally the answer came:
> > I have an external (plugs into a USB port) Verbatim 15-in-1 card reader.
> > When plugged in, this unit is seen by the system as four drives.
> > Well, it seems the unit went kaput, and the BIOS was trying to read
> > defective drives. Simply unplugging the unit fixed things.

>
> Glad you got it sorted. Thanks for updating the thread.
>
> Malke
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>
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Malke
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      17th Apr 2009
Nurzena wrote:

> I have the same problem. I have a EMachine W3052. My problem is that it
> will
> not boot on it's own sometimes it will but only after I turn the pc on
> and
> off over and over. It has the EMachines Logo and sits there. I press f10
> and if I'm lucky it goes to boot options. please help. I have
> unpluged
> it. I have moved the pc, ( maybe the chi was the problem) it is
> getting
> old oh the pc is nearly 3 1/2 yrs old. but my son put a Radion gamer
> card
> , wireles key and mouse and fast download. please help.


Next time please make a new post with all pertinent details instead of
shoving your question into someone else's old, closed thread. You do not
have "the same problem" as the OP at all.

Your symptoms point to a failing power supply. eMachines are notorious for
having bad power supplies and what's worse, when their power supplies go
they often take the hard drive and motherboard with them. Back up your data
NOW and replace your power supply ASAP.

Malke
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Lil' Dave
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      17th Apr 2009
"Malke" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Nurzena wrote:
>
>> I have the same problem. I have a EMachine W3052. My problem is that it
>> will
>> not boot on it's own sometimes it will but only after I turn the pc on
>> and
>> off over and over. It has the EMachines Logo and sits there. I press f10
>> and if I'm lucky it goes to boot options. please help. I have
>> unpluged
>> it. I have moved the pc, ( maybe the chi was the problem) it is
>> getting
>> old oh the pc is nearly 3 1/2 yrs old. but my son put a Radion gamer
>> card
>> , wireles key and mouse and fast download. please help.

>
> Next time please make a new post with all pertinent details instead of
> shoving your question into someone else's old, closed thread. You do not
> have "the same problem" as the OP at all.
>
> Your symptoms point to a failing power supply. eMachines are notorious for
> having bad power supplies and what's worse, when their power supplies go
> they often take the hard drive and motherboard with them. Back up your
> data
> NOW and replace your power supply ASAP.
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>


Either that, or, flaky motherboard onboard cmos, Bios can't make claim to
data that isn't stored properly. That is, its trying to process gibberish
and storing gibberish.
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Malke
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      18th Apr 2009
Lil' Dave wrote:


> Either that, or, flaky motherboard onboard cmos, Bios can't make claim
> to
> data that isn't stored properly. That is, its trying to process
> gibberish and storing gibberish.


Certainly it could be another hardware component, but the OP said he had an
eMachine and the failing psu that kills everything is a known-issue with
eMachines. My colleagues and I have seen this with eMachines plenty of
times, so that's where I'd start.

(BTW, you should trim your signature to the standard of no more than 4
lines.)

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Johnny Fosse
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      18th Apr 2009
Malke <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Lil' Dave wrote:
>
>
>> Either that, or, flaky motherboard onboard cmos, Bios can't make claim
>> to
>> data that isn't stored properly. That is, its trying to process
>> gibberish and storing gibberish.

>
>Certainly it could be another hardware component, but the OP said he had an
>eMachine and the failing psu that kills everything is a known-issue with
>eMachines. My colleagues and I have seen this with eMachines plenty of
>times, so that's where I'd start.
>
>(BTW, you should trim your signature to the standard of no more than 4
>lines.)
>
>Malke


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pipes on the bike? The loud pipes and the big sig are both Freudian
things.

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