I'm having a look at a Win XP Asus P5S800-VM computer for a friend which he
said stopped working. He said it has power but nothing else, check the
monitor was working by trying it on another PC.

I unplugged the HDD and the DVDRW. I entered BIOS setup and after about 30
seconds it locks up. On starting I get Wrong date/time errors and also an
error saying that the CPU overclock failed. I have tried this a couple of
times after clearing the CMOS backup each time, but I still get a lock up on
the BIOS setup screen, normally while trying to correct the BIOS time/date.

Would this indicate a screwed Motherboard?

Before chucking the PC away, try buying a replacement battery for the CMOS
(Open up the PC and you'll see a small button-style battery attached to the
motherboard - take it to an electronics shop and get a replacement - it only
costs a few pence (cents))


==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


"kleefarr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:98CBC00E-6F7C-4500-9838-(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm having a look at a Win XP Asus P5S800-VM computer for a friend which
> he
> said stopped working. He said it has power but nothing else, check the
> monitor was working by trying it on another PC.
>
> I unplugged the HDD and the DVDRW. I entered BIOS setup and after about 30
> seconds it locks up. On starting I get Wrong date/time errors and also an
> error saying that the CPU overclock failed. I have tried this a couple of
> times after clearing the CMOS backup each time, but I still get a lock up
> on
> the BIOS setup screen, normally while trying to correct the BIOS
> time/date.
>
> Would this indicate a screwed Motherboard?
>

"kleefarr" wrote:

> I'm having a look at a Win XP Asus P5S800-VM computer for a friend which he
> said stopped working. He said it has power but nothing else, check the
> monitor was working by trying it on another PC.
>
> I unplugged the HDD and the DVDRW. I entered BIOS setup and after about 30
> seconds it locks up. On starting I get Wrong date/time errors and also an
> error saying that the CPU overclock failed. I have tried this a couple of
> times after clearing the CMOS backup each time, but I still get a lock up on
> the BIOS setup screen, normally while trying to correct the BIOS time/date.
>
> Would this indicate a screwed Motherboard?
>

I forgot to add..

Had already checked the CMOs battery and connections. Voltage was 2.85v but
changed for a new one anyway. 3.08v.

I had a look at the online manual about overclocking, but there was no
indication of any specific jumper settings for enabling overclocking.

I have also checked the Intrusion/case open jumper and that seems fine.

I have run a voltage test..

Purple - 5.02v
Green - 0.16v
Grey - 0.97v (Low)
Orange - 3.28v
Red - 5.21v
Yellow - (When off 0.15v) Power on 11.15. (seems low)

You missed my update post..

"Had already checked the CMOs battery and connections. Voltage was 2.85v but
changed for a new one anyway. 3.08v."

Thanks


"Tim Meddick" wrote:

> Before chucking the PC away, try buying a replacement battery for the CMOS
> (Open up the PC and you'll see a small button-style battery attached to the
> motherboard - take it to an electronics shop and get a replacement - it only
> costs a few pence (cents))
>
>
> ==
>
>
>
> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
>
>
> "kleefarr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:98CBC00E-6F7C-4500-9838-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I'm having a look at a Win XP Asus P5S800-VM computer for a friend which
> > he
> > said stopped working. He said it has power but nothing else, check the
> > monitor was working by trying it on another PC.
> >
> > I unplugged the HDD and the DVDRW. I entered BIOS setup and after about 30
> > seconds it locks up. On starting I get Wrong date/time errors and also an
> > error saying that the CPU overclock failed. I have tried this a couple of
> > times after clearing the CMOS backup each time, but I still get a lock up
> > on
> > the BIOS setup screen, normally while trying to correct the BIOS
> > time/date.
> >
> > Would this indicate a screwed Motherboard?
> >
>
>
>

No, I just haven't replied since. If you have a look at the times, I posted
my last one minute before your 'updated' post. I am sorry, but I didn't
feel it was worth me saying any more after I read your update as I have
already given my best guess. You seem to have at least as good a knowledge
as I have on this, after reading your second post, you have listed
everything I might have done already.


==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


"kleefarr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:E9D51E86-616E-4D20-9D32-(E-Mail Removed)...
> You missed my update post..
>
> "Had already checked the CMOs battery and connections. Voltage was 2.85v
> but
> changed for a new one anyway. 3.08v."
>
> Thanks
>
>
> "Tim Meddick" wrote:
>
>> Before chucking the PC away, try buying a replacement battery for the
>> CMOS
>> (Open up the PC and you'll see a small button-style battery attached to
>> the
>> motherboard - take it to an electronics shop and get a replacement - it
>> only
>> costs a few pence (cents))
>>
>>
>> ==
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
>>
>>
>> "kleefarr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:98CBC00E-6F7C-4500-9838-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > I'm having a look at a Win XP Asus P5S800-VM computer for a friend
>> > which
>> > he
>> > said stopped working. He said it has power but nothing else, check the
>> > monitor was working by trying it on another PC.
>> >
>> > I unplugged the HDD and the DVDRW. I entered BIOS setup and after about
>> > 30
>> > seconds it locks up. On starting I get Wrong date/time errors and also
>> > an
>> > error saying that the CPU overclock failed. I have tried this a couple
>> > of
>> > times after clearing the CMOS backup each time, but I still get a lock
>> > up
>> > on
>> > the BIOS setup screen, normally while trying to correct the BIOS
>> > time/date.
>> >
>> > Would this indicate a screwed Motherboard?
>> >
>>
>>
>>

"kleefarr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:58EAF93A-3E98-4F90-AAAA-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
> "kleefarr" wrote:
>
>> I'm having a look at a Win XP Asus P5S800-VM computer for a friend which
>> he
>> said stopped working. He said it has power but nothing else, check the
>> monitor was working by trying it on another PC.
>>
>> I unplugged the HDD and the DVDRW. I entered BIOS setup and after about
>> 30
>> seconds it locks up. On starting I get Wrong date/time errors and also an
>> error saying that the CPU overclock failed. I have tried this a couple of
>> times after clearing the CMOS backup each time, but I still get a lock up
>> on
>> the BIOS setup screen, normally while trying to correct the BIOS
>> time/date.
>>
>> Would this indicate a screwed Motherboard?
>>
>
> I forgot to add..
>
> Had already checked the CMOs battery and connections. Voltage was 2.85v
> but
> changed for a new one anyway. 3.08v.
>
> I had a look at the online manual about overclocking, but there was no
> indication of any specific jumper settings for enabling overclocking.
>
> I have also checked the Intrusion/case open jumper and that seems fine.
>
> I have run a voltage test..
>
> Purple - 5.02v
> Green - 0.16v
> Grey - 0.97v (Low)
> Orange - 3.28v
> Red - 5.21v
> Yellow - (When off 0.15v) Power on 11.15. (seems low)

Under Advanced, JumperFree Configuration in BIOS is the AI Overclock Tuner.
Make sure that is set to standard. According to the manual, there is no need
to clear the RTC RAM due to overclocking- it should reset itself after doing
a shutdown and reboot. Make sure your CPU fan is clean and running. You can
check your board temps and voltages in BIOS under Power, Hardware Monitor.

SC Tom

Ah. Sorry.

"Tim Meddick" wrote:

> No, I just haven't replied since. If you have a look at the times, I posted
> my last one minute before your 'updated' post. I am sorry, but I didn't
> feel it was worth me saying any more after I read your update as I have
> already given my best guess. You seem to have at least as good a knowledge
> as I have on this, after reading your second post, you have listed
> everything I might have done already.
>
>
> ==
>
>
>
> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
>
>
> "kleefarr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:E9D51E86-616E-4D20-9D32-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > You missed my update post..
> >
> > "Had already checked the CMOs battery and connections. Voltage was 2.85v
> > but
> > changed for a new one anyway. 3.08v."
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > "Tim Meddick" wrote:
> >
> >> Before chucking the PC away, try buying a replacement battery for the
> >> CMOS
> >> (Open up the PC and you'll see a small button-style battery attached to
> >> the
> >> motherboard - take it to an electronics shop and get a replacement - it
> >> only
> >> costs a few pence (cents))
> >>
> >>
> >> ==
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
> >>
> >>
> >> "kleefarr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:98CBC00E-6F7C-4500-9838-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > I'm having a look at a Win XP Asus P5S800-VM computer for a friend
> >> > which
> >> > he
> >> > said stopped working. He said it has power but nothing else, check the
> >> > monitor was working by trying it on another PC.
> >> >
> >> > I unplugged the HDD and the DVDRW. I entered BIOS setup and after about
> >> > 30
> >> > seconds it locks up. On starting I get Wrong date/time errors and also
> >> > an
> >> > error saying that the CPU overclock failed. I have tried this a couple
> >> > of
> >> > times after clearing the CMOS backup each time, but I still get a lock
> >> > up
> >> > on
> >> > the BIOS setup screen, normally while trying to correct the BIOS
> >> > time/date.
> >> >
> >> > Would this indicate a screwed Motherboard?
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

"SC Tom" wrote:

>
> "kleefarr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:58EAF93A-3E98-4F90-AAAA-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> >
> > "kleefarr" wrote:
> >
> >> I'm having a look at a Win XP Asus P5S800-VM computer for a friend which
> >> he
> >> said stopped working. He said it has power but nothing else, check the
> >> monitor was working by trying it on another PC.
> >>
> >> I unplugged the HDD and the DVDRW. I entered BIOS setup and after about
> >> 30
> >> seconds it locks up. On starting I get Wrong date/time errors and also an
> >> error saying that the CPU overclock failed. I have tried this a couple of
> >> times after clearing the CMOS backup each time, but I still get a lock up
> >> on
> >> the BIOS setup screen, normally while trying to correct the BIOS
> >> time/date.
> >>
> >> Would this indicate a screwed Motherboard?
> >>
> >
> > I forgot to add..
> >
> > Had already checked the CMOs battery and connections. Voltage was 2.85v
> > but
> > changed for a new one anyway. 3.08v.
> >
> > I had a look at the online manual about overclocking, but there was no
> > indication of any specific jumper settings for enabling overclocking.
> >
> > I have also checked the Intrusion/case open jumper and that seems fine.
> >
> > I have run a voltage test..
> >
> > Purple - 5.02v
> > Green - 0.16v
> > Grey - 0.97v (Low)
> > Orange - 3.28v
> > Red - 5.21v
> > Yellow - (When off 0.15v) Power on 11.15. (seems low)
>
> Under Advanced, JumperFree Configuration in BIOS is the AI Overclock Tuner.
> Make sure that is set to standard. According to the manual, there is no need
> to clear the RTC RAM due to overclocking- it should reset itself after doing
> a shutdown and reboot. Make sure your CPU fan is clean and running. You can
> check your board temps and voltages in BIOS under Power, Hardware Monitor.
>
> SC Tom
>
>

Have changed the PSU and voltage on the 12v rail seemed better, 11.97v.
The fan is working and is now reasonably clean.
I navigated to the 'monitor hardware' section in BIOS and watched for a few
minutes. Fan speed was on auto. CPU temprature climbed to 61.5 oC and the
motherboard temp stayed around the 27/28 oC mark. Then it locked up again.

Motherboard or CPU?

"kleefarr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3BF1864C-7602-4F4E-9F29-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
> "SC Tom" wrote:
>
>>
>> "kleefarr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:58EAF93A-3E98-4F90-AAAA-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >
>> >
>> > "kleefarr" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm having a look at a Win XP Asus P5S800-VM computer for a friend
>> >> which
>> >> he
>> >> said stopped working. He said it has power but nothing else, check the
>> >> monitor was working by trying it on another PC.
>> >>
>> >> I unplugged the HDD and the DVDRW. I entered BIOS setup and after
>> >> about
>> >> 30
>> >> seconds it locks up. On starting I get Wrong date/time errors and also
>> >> an
>> >> error saying that the CPU overclock failed. I have tried this a couple
>> >> of
>> >> times after clearing the CMOS backup each time, but I still get a lock
>> >> up
>> >> on
>> >> the BIOS setup screen, normally while trying to correct the BIOS
>> >> time/date.
>> >>
>> >> Would this indicate a screwed Motherboard?
>> >>
>> >
>> > I forgot to add..
>> >
>> > Had already checked the CMOs battery and connections. Voltage was 2.85v
>> > but
>> > changed for a new one anyway. 3.08v.
>> >
>> > I had a look at the online manual about overclocking, but there was no
>> > indication of any specific jumper settings for enabling overclocking.
>> >
>> > I have also checked the Intrusion/case open jumper and that seems fine.
>> >
>> > I have run a voltage test..
>> >
>> > Purple - 5.02v
>> > Green - 0.16v
>> > Grey - 0.97v (Low)
>> > Orange - 3.28v
>> > Red - 5.21v
>> > Yellow - (When off 0.15v) Power on 11.15. (seems low)
>>
>> Under Advanced, JumperFree Configuration in BIOS is the AI Overclock
>> Tuner.
>> Make sure that is set to standard. According to the manual, there is no
>> need
>> to clear the RTC RAM due to overclocking- it should reset itself after
>> doing
>> a shutdown and reboot. Make sure your CPU fan is clean and running. You
>> can
>> check your board temps and voltages in BIOS under Power, Hardware
>> Monitor.
>>
>> SC Tom
>>
>>
>
> Have changed the PSU and voltage on the 12v rail seemed better, 11.97v.
> The fan is working and is now reasonably clean.
> I navigated to the 'monitor hardware' section in BIOS and watched for a
> few
> minutes. Fan speed was on auto. CPU temprature climbed to 61.5 oC and the
> motherboard temp stayed around the 27/28 oC mark. Then it locked up again.
>
> Motherboard or CPU?
>

Depending on the model of CPU, that may or may not be high. My AMD in my
desktop never gets that high, but my Intel in my notebook will sometimes get
that high on intense programs, but drop right back down.
I haven't seen any mention of you changing out the RAM. Have you tried any
different RAM in it to see if that changes anything? If you have two or more
sticks, you could try them one at a time and see if that solves it. May be a
bad stick in there.
Are you using a USB keyboard or PS2? I'd go with a PS2 until the problem is
solved- just one more bus to eliminate. Since you don't have a HDD in it at
the moment, unplug the mouse, too.
Ain't troubleshooting fun :-)?

SC Tom

"SC Tom" wrote:

>
> "kleefarr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:3BF1864C-7602-4F4E-9F29-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> >
> > "SC Tom" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "kleefarr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:58EAF93A-3E98-4F90-AAAA-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "kleefarr" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I'm having a look at a Win XP Asus P5S800-VM computer for a friend
> >> >> which
> >> >> he
> >> >> said stopped working. He said it has power but nothing else, check the
> >> >> monitor was working by trying it on another PC.
> >> >>
> >> >> I unplugged the HDD and the DVDRW. I entered BIOS setup and after
> >> >> about
> >> >> 30
> >> >> seconds it locks up. On starting I get Wrong date/time errors and also
> >> >> an
> >> >> error saying that the CPU overclock failed. I have tried this a couple
> >> >> of
> >> >> times after clearing the CMOS backup each time, but I still get a lock
> >> >> up
> >> >> on
> >> >> the BIOS setup screen, normally while trying to correct the BIOS
> >> >> time/date.
> >> >>
> >> >> Would this indicate a screwed Motherboard?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I forgot to add..
> >> >
> >> > Had already checked the CMOs battery and connections. Voltage was 2.85v
> >> > but
> >> > changed for a new one anyway. 3.08v.
> >> >
> >> > I had a look at the online manual about overclocking, but there was no
> >> > indication of any specific jumper settings for enabling overclocking.
> >> >
> >> > I have also checked the Intrusion/case open jumper and that seems fine.
> >> >
> >> > I have run a voltage test..
> >> >
> >> > Purple - 5.02v
> >> > Green - 0.16v
> >> > Grey - 0.97v (Low)
> >> > Orange - 3.28v
> >> > Red - 5.21v
> >> > Yellow - (When off 0.15v) Power on 11.15. (seems low)
> >>
> >> Under Advanced, JumperFree Configuration in BIOS is the AI Overclock
> >> Tuner.
> >> Make sure that is set to standard. According to the manual, there is no
> >> need
> >> to clear the RTC RAM due to overclocking- it should reset itself after
> >> doing
> >> a shutdown and reboot. Make sure your CPU fan is clean and running. You
> >> can
> >> check your board temps and voltages in BIOS under Power, Hardware
> >> Monitor.
> >>
> >> SC Tom
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Have changed the PSU and voltage on the 12v rail seemed better, 11.97v.
> > The fan is working and is now reasonably clean.
> > I navigated to the 'monitor hardware' section in BIOS and watched for a
> > few
> > minutes. Fan speed was on auto. CPU temperature climbed to 61.5 oC and the
> > motherboard temp stayed around the 27/28 oC mark. Then it locked up again.
> >
> > Motherboard or CPU?
> >
>
> Depending on the model of CPU, that may or may not be high. My AMD in my
> desktop never gets that high, but my Intel in my notebook will sometimes get
> that high on intense programs, but drop right back down.
> I haven't seen any mention of you changing out the RAM. Have you tried any
> different RAM in it to see if that changes anything? If you have two or more
> sticks, you could try them one at a time and see if that solves it. May be a
> bad stick in there.
> Are you using a USB keyboard or PS2? I'd go with a PS2 until the problem is
> solved- just one more bus to eliminate. Since you don't have a HDD in it at
> the moment, unplug the mouse, too.
> Ain't troubleshooting fun :-)?
>
> SC Tom
>

Yeah, great fun 8).

I'll have a look and see if I have som RAM that'll fit. I am thinking CPU
though.
Mouse is not plugged in, only keyboard.
Will check out the specs from the website a bit later.
Watching Spanish Grand Prix now then it'll be time for Arsenal v Chelsea.