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      1st Aug 2006
In a Windows Crash Report, it says to disable BIOS Caching or Shadowing...
So I did. What is the downside of doing that? I don't know what these
features do. Will impact performance?

Thanks,
mac




 
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      2nd Aug 2006
mac pravi:
> In a Windows Crash Report, it says to disable BIOS Caching or Shadowing...
> So I did. What is the downside of doing that? I don't know what these
> features do. Will impact performance?


The BIOS contains program code, which running programs may or may not
run. BIOS is cached into RAM, so that that code does not have to run
from the BIOS storage chip.

So there are two things you should know:
1. Modern BIOS chips are not that slow
2. Windows software does not ever touch BIOS program code (VGA BIOS code
maybe, tho even that is unlikely)

In other words, the downside is not noticeable on modern systems.

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      2nd Aug 2006

"mac" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In a Windows Crash Report, it says to disable BIOS Caching or Shadowing...
> So I did. What is the downside of doing that? I don't know what these
> features do. Will impact performance?
>
> Thanks,
> mac
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>
>
>


nill on todays systems....little when it mattered.


 
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      2nd Aug 2006
"Jure Sah" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:x6Rzg.4515$(E-Mail Removed)...
> mac pravi:
> > In a Windows Crash Report, it says to disable BIOS Caching or Shadowing...
> > So I did. What is the downside of doing that? I don't know what these
> > features do. Will impact performance?

>
> The BIOS contains program code, which running programs may or may not
> run. BIOS is cached into RAM, so that that code does not have to run
> from the BIOS storage chip.
>
> So there are two things you should know:
> 1. Modern BIOS chips are not that slow
> 2. Windows software does not ever touch BIOS program code (VGA BIOS code
> maybe, tho even that is unlikely)


Depends what you mean by "touch" and "bios". Most modern
versions of Windows certainly do read the IRQ table from
system bios, along with several other settings. And it can also
cause bios writes in some cases (e.g. when hardware config
changes are made in a system, Windows will set the bios'
ESCD flag if "PnP OS" option is selected).



 
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      2nd Aug 2006
Thank you all,

I went ahead and re-enable these options...

mac


 
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      2nd Aug 2006
EDM pravi:
>> So there are two things you should know:
>> 1. Modern BIOS chips are not that slow
>> 2. Windows software does not ever touch BIOS program code (VGA BIOS code
>> maybe, tho even that is unlikely)

>
> Depends what you mean by "touch" and "bios". Most modern
> versions of Windows certainly do read the IRQ table from
> system bios, along with several other settings. And it can also
> cause bios writes in some cases (e.g. when hardware config
> changes are made in a system, Windows will set the bios'
> ESCD flag if "PnP OS" option is selected).


Yes but that would be the Windows OS, not the Windows software. To me in
this context, windows software refers to software running inside the
windows protected environment. That software does not have access to
anything of hardware, it's all drivers.

Of course, this would be modern version of Windows, e.g.: 2000 or newer.

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      2nd Aug 2006
mac <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Thank you all,
> I went ahead and re-enable these options...
> mac


Uh, why??? If you are running just XP, these options _SHOULD_ be turned
off. You do NOT want to shadow the bios ROM, or any other ROM, it is a
total waste - XP never calls the ROM code.

These options are an old hold-over from the DOS days. google for "shadow
rom" and read a bit for further insight. here are good sites that cover
virtually all bios options and their "preferred" settings:

http://www.wimsbios.com/main.html

http://www.adriansrojakpot.com/Speed...uide_Index.htm

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/01/...s_from_a_to_z/



 
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      2nd Aug 2006
I really don't understand this very well. I'll do some reading... In the
meantime I'll turn it off. I have three other PCs (two more WIN Xp and a
Linux Mandrake 10) . I can only assume that option is turned on in all my
PCs.

mac



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> mac <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Thank you all,
>> I went ahead and re-enable these options...
>> mac

>
> Uh, why??? If you are running just XP, these options _SHOULD_ be turned
> off. You do NOT want to shadow the bios ROM, or any other ROM, it is a
> total waste - XP never calls the ROM code.
>
> These options are an old hold-over from the DOS days. google for "shadow
> rom" and read a bit for further insight. here are good sites that cover
> virtually all bios options and their "preferred" settings:
>
> http://www.wimsbios.com/main.html
>
> http://www.adriansrojakpot.com/Speed...uide_Index.htm
>
> http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/01/...s_from_a_to_z/
>
>
>



 
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      2nd Aug 2006
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> mac <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Thank you all,
>> I went ahead and re-enable these options...
>> mac

>
> Uh, why???


I was wondering the same thing. Such weirdness happens.


 
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