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dh
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      28th Jul 2005
Is it possible to get the BIOS damaged?
If yes, how to check it is damaged or not?
Is it possible to boot without any OS?
I just want to access the BIOS setting.
I use the OS saved in the floppy to boot up the computer, only once in a
while can boot it up.
The same happens for boot from CDROM.
Thanx


 
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      28th Jul 2005
dh wrote:
> Is it possible to get the BIOS damaged?


Yes

> If yes, how to check it is damaged or not?


Depends on how damaged it is, your machine may not proceed past the
memory check, it may not boot at all, the date may be wron, drives may
not be detected, you may not even be able to access the CMOS chip
itsself.

> Is it possible to boot without any OS?


No

> I just want to access the BIOS setting.


Usually done by taping the Del key just after the memory test, though
differnt keys may be used if it is a proprietry machine such as
Toshiba, Compaq, HP etc

> I use the OS saved in the floppy to boot up the computer, only once in a
> while can boot it up.


What OS

> The same happens for boot from CDROM.


What OS

> Thanx


 
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      28th Jul 2005
Yes, it is possible to get the BIOS damaged such as flashing failure and it
is possible too to boot without os. The BIOS screen does appear when you on
your computer. I think you know how to enter the BIOS right? Just press on
"DEL" or you may try to look into your computer manual .

"dh" wrote:

> Is it possible to get the BIOS damaged?
> If yes, how to check it is damaged or not?
> Is it possible to boot without any OS?
> I just want to access the BIOS setting.
> I use the OS saved in the floppy to boot up the computer, only once in a
> while can boot it up.
> The same happens for boot from CDROM.
> Thanx
>
>
>

 
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dh
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      28th Jul 2005
I cannot even get something on the screen.
My machine cannot boot that far to memory test or to boot up the VGA card.
I know the BIOS is able to detect the keyboard because the NUM LOCK light is
on.
But the monitor just showing nothing.
Yesterday, at first, I suspected the harddisk is crashed, and I have
downloaded the diagnostic tools which has a little OS included in a floppy
disk.
I just want to boot up the system and let me press DEL to access the BIOS at
this point.
Same thing happened to the WINXP CDROM.
I have tried more than ten times to access the BIOS but only 2 times
success.
How can I diagnostic the BIOS damage?
How to get the tools to fix it?
Thanx


"GreenieLeBrun" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> dh wrote:
>> Is it possible to get the BIOS damaged?

>
> Yes
>
>> If yes, how to check it is damaged or not?

>
> Depends on how damaged it is, your machine may not proceed past the
> memory check, it may not boot at all, the date may be wron, drives may
> not be detected, you may not even be able to access the CMOS chip
> itsself.
>
>> Is it possible to boot without any OS?

>
> No
>
>> I just want to access the BIOS setting.

>
> Usually done by taping the Del key just after the memory test, though
> differnt keys may be used if it is a proprietry machine such as
> Toshiba, Compaq, HP etc
>
>> I use the OS saved in the floppy to boot up the computer, only once in a
>> while can boot it up.

>
> What OS
>
>> The same happens for boot from CDROM.

>
> What OS
>
>> Thanx

>



 
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GreenieLeBrun
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      28th Jul 2005
Do you get any beeps at startup? If so how many and what duration? The
analysis of the beeps would depend on the motherboard make as different
manufacturers use different codes to diagnose the beep pattern.
Have you checked that the video card is properly seated? Of course if
the machine has an on-board video this suggestion is redundant.
Have you checked that the monitor is working by connecting it to
another machine?
If you answered no, yes and yes my suggestion would be to take the
machine to a repair shop, they may be able to find a replacement BIOS
chip or as a last resort put in a new motherboard.

 
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dh
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      28th Jul 2005
Yes, I got about 4 beeps at startup.
Yes, the video card should be seated properly because the system was able to
start once in a while, probably 1/10.
Therefore, the monitor is working.
Any tools for BIOS diagnostic?
Thanx

"GreenieLeBrun" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Do you get any beeps at startup? If so how many and what duration? The
> analysis of the beeps would depend on the motherboard make as different
> manufacturers use different codes to diagnose the beep pattern.
> Have you checked that the video card is properly seated? Of course if
> the machine has an on-board video this suggestion is redundant.
> Have you checked that the monitor is working by connecting it to
> another machine?
> If you answered no, yes and yes my suggestion would be to take the
> machine to a repair shop, they may be able to find a replacement BIOS
> chip or as a last resort put in a new motherboard.
>



 
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Ron Sommer
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      28th Jul 2005
1/10 does not indicate that the video card or the ram are seated properly.
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"dh" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Yes, I got about 4 beeps at startup.
> Yes, the video card should be seated properly because the system was able
> to start once in a while, probably 1/10.
> Therefore, the monitor is working.
> Any tools for BIOS diagnostic?
> Thanx
>
> "GreenieLeBrun" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Do you get any beeps at startup? If so how many and what duration? The
>> analysis of the beeps would depend on the motherboard make as different
>> manufacturers use different codes to diagnose the beep pattern.
>> Have you checked that the video card is properly seated? Of course if
>> the machine has an on-board video this suggestion is redundant.
>> Have you checked that the monitor is working by connecting it to
>> another machine?
>> If you answered no, yes and yes my suggestion would be to take the
>> machine to a repair shop, they may be able to find a replacement BIOS
>> chip or as a last resort put in a new motherboard.
>>

>
>



 
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Jone Doe
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      28th Jul 2005

OK, each computer has their own system of error boots, but they are somewhat
standard.

http://www.computerhope.com/beep.htm will give some information. Of course
the book you got with the computer will have a table saying what the beep
error codes mean, find it and read it. Usually, 4 beeps Timer not
operational, system board bad


Possible fix: Open it up and hold down the CUDA button on the motherboard
for about 5 seconds. This does a hard reset on the board. It is a small grey
button on the board.

"RobinLKM" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:A86D6A4D-6892-455F-9143-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Yes, it is possible to get the BIOS damaged such as flashing failure and
> it
> is possible too to boot without os. The BIOS screen does appear when you
> on
> your computer. I think you know how to enter the BIOS right? Just press on
> "DEL" or you may try to look into your computer manual .
>
> "dh" wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to get the BIOS damaged?
>> If yes, how to check it is damaged or not?
>> Is it possible to boot without any OS?
>> I just want to access the BIOS setting.
>> I use the OS saved in the floppy to boot up the computer, only once in a
>> while can boot it up.
>> The same happens for boot from CDROM.
>> Thanx
>>
>>
>>



 
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Jhoschak
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      28th Jul 2005
Yes it is possible to boot without an OS but You need a BIOS and it is
possible for the BIOS to get damaged from any recent software or hardwarre
changes!!!
"dh" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Is it possible to get the BIOS damaged?
> If yes, how to check it is damaged or not?
> Is it possible to boot without any OS?
> I just want to access the BIOS setting.
> I use the OS saved in the floppy to boot up the computer, only once in a
> while can boot it up.
> The same happens for boot from CDROM.
> Thanx
>



 
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Ken Blake
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      28th Jul 2005
In news:(E-Mail Removed),
Jhoschak <(E-Mail Removed)> typed:

> Yes it is possible to boot without an OS



That's completely false.

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Please reply to the newsgroup


> but You need a BIOS and it is
> possible for the BIOS to get damaged from any recent software
> or
> hardwarre changes!!!
> "dh" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Is it possible to get the BIOS damaged?
>> If yes, how to check it is damaged or not?
>> Is it possible to boot without any OS?
>> I just want to access the BIOS setting.
>> I use the OS saved in the floppy to boot up the computer, only
>> once
>> in a while can boot it up.
>> The same happens for boot from CDROM.
>> Thanx



 
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