Somehow I never get rid of all my problems and questions.

How do I know how big my flashdrive is?

Today I went to use my NIB flashdrive and it says there is no room to
copy AVG11 to it (to install on another computer *before* going on the
net.) PowerDesk shows my drive is only 1.07 gig big. I thought it
was 16 gig. I bought it at a flea market. 16 gig for only 30
dollars. I think it was still sealed in the original packaging, but
it's been 3 weeks and now I'm not sure. (maybe I'll find the
packaging and that will remind me.

I thought I plugged it in the day I bought it and it was 16, and I
thought it said 16 gig on the packaging, but I'm not sure about either
of those now, either.

So maybe only part of it is partitioned?

Easeus Partition Master doesn't even show the flashdrive.
PM8 boot disk won't show any USB drive.
PM8 under Windows worked the first time I installed it and now
freezes the computer every time I try to use it, except maybe once
each time I uninstall and reinstall.
XP Help won't show me anything relevant for Partition Manager .
I have to go google to learn the phrase disk management.

So use Help to find Disk Management and I run it, and the map at the
bottom shows the flashdrive as 15.92 gig, FAT32, and healthy. But
the chart at the top says it's capacity is 1.07 gig and it has 58 megs
free, 5%.

So which is it?

Any help is appreciated.

PS: The drive seems to have linux files of some sort on it. Twelve
files, rootfs.img is the biggest, about 1 gig big. It has a
subdirectory called "recovery" that has 7 files. If linux is already
installed, I'd like to keep it and try it, so if I can get at the
other 15 gig, I'd like to that non-destructively if possible.

PPS: The drive is covered in leather, with metal trim, and the cap is
connected to the drive with a leather strap, cut so the cap slides on
the leather but won't come off. I never saw anything like this
before. No brand name.

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:29:13 -0400, mm <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>
>
>Today I went to use my NIB flashdrive and it says there is no room to
>copy AVG11 to it (to install on another computer *before* going on the
>net.) PowerDesk shows my drive is only 1.07 gig big. I thought it
>was 16 gig. I bought it at a flea market. 16 gig for only 30
>dollars. I think it was still sealed in the original packaging, but
>it's been 3 weeks and now I'm not sure. (maybe I'll find the
>packaging and that will remind me.
>
>I thought I plugged it in the day I bought it and it was 16, and I
>thought it said 16 gig on the packaging, but I'm not sure about either
>of those now, either.

FWIW, no brandname, as I said, but right on the drive, it says 16 gig.

mm wrote

> Somehow I never get rid of all my problems and questions.

All you need to do is hang yourself and they will all be gone forever.

> How do I know how big my flashdrive is?

You could try measuring it.

> Today I went to use my NIB flashdrive and it says there is no room
> to copy AVG11 to it (to install on another computer *before* going
> on the net.) PowerDesk shows my drive is only 1.07 gig big.
> I thought it was 16 gig. I bought it at a flea market. 16 gig for
> only 30 dollars. I think it was still sealed in the original packaging,
> but it's been 3 weeks and now I'm not sure. (maybe I'll find the
> packaging and that will remind me.

Or maybe you got one of the fakes that are nothing like the size claimed.

> I thought I plugged it in the day I bought it and it was 16,
> and I thought it said 16 gig on the packaging, but I'm not
> sure about either of those now, either.

> So maybe only part of it is partitioned?

Its more likely its a fake.

> Easeus Partition Master doesn't even show the flashdrive.
> PM8 boot disk won't show any USB drive.
> PM8 under Windows worked the first time I installed it and now
> freezes the computer every time I try to use it, except maybe once
> each time I uninstall and reinstall.

> XP Help won't show me anything relevant for Partition Manager .
> I have to go google to learn the phrase disk management.

> So use Help to find Disk Management and I run it, and the map at
> the bottom shows the flashdrive as 15.92 gig, FAT32, and healthy.

That healthy label just means there is no blindingly
obvious problem, not that it really is completely healthy.

> But the chart at the top says it's capacity is 1.07 gig and it has 58 megs free, 5%.

> So which is it?

Most likely its a fake.

> Any help is appreciated.

Even help to hang yourself ? Funky.

> PS: The drive seems to have linux files of some sort on it.
> Twelve files, rootfs.img is the biggest, about 1 gig big. It
> has a subdirectory called "recovery" that has 7 files. If linux is
> already installed, I'd like to keep it and try it, so if I can get at
> the other 15 gig, I'd like to that non-destructively if possible.

So it cant have been sealed.

> PPS: The drive is covered in leather, with metal trim, and the cap is
> connected to the drive with a leather strap, cut so the cap slides on
> the leather but won't come off. I never saw anything like this before.
> No brand name.

Bet its a fake.

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:29:13 -0400, mm <(E-Mail Removed)> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>How do I know how big my flashdrive is?

Test it with H2testw:
http://www.heise.de/software/download/h2testw/50539

- Franc Zabkar
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:40:07 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>> XP Help won't show me anything relevant for Partition Manager .
>> I have to go google to learn the phrase disk management.
>
>> So use Help to find Disk Management and I run it, and the map at
>> the bottom shows the flashdrive as 15.92 gig, FAT32, and healthy.
>
>That healthy label just means there is no blindingly
>obvious problem, not that it really is completely healthy.

You've just about convinced me it's a fake, but how did it fool XP
Disk Management, half of which says it's 15.92 gig?

>
>> But the chart at the top says it's capacity is 1.07 gig and it has 58 megs free, 5%.
>
>> So which is it?
>
>Most likely its a fake.

mm wrote
> Rod Speed <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>> mm wrote

>>> XP Help won't show me anything relevant for Partition Manager .
>>> I have to go google to learn the phrase disk management.

>>> So use Help to find Disk Management and I run it, and the map at
>>> the bottom shows the flashdrive as 15.92 gig, FAT32, and healthy.

>> That healthy label just means there is no blindingly
>> obvious problem, not that it really is completely healthy.

> You've just about convinced me it's a fake, but how did it fool
> XP Disk Management, half of which says it's 15.92 gig?

It isnt that hard to fool that bit of XP, it just asks the device
how big it is and it believes any lie the device tells it on that.

The same thing happens with drives short stroked by the manufacturer
when they no longer make the size that is replaced under warranty and
they ship the bigger one that they currently make and just short stroke it so
it claims to be smaller than it actually is, normally with rotating hard drives.

>>> But the chart at the top says it's capacity
>>> is 1.07 gig and it has 58 megs free, 5%.

>>> So which is it?

>> Most likely its a fake.

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Rod Speed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>mm wrote
>
>> Somehow I never get rid of all my problems and questions.
>
>All you need to do is hang yourself and they will all be gone forever.
>
>> How do I know how big my flashdrive is?
>
>You could try measuring it.
>
>> Today I went to use my NIB flashdrive and it says there is no room
>> to copy AVG11 to it (to install on another computer *before* going
>> on the net.) PowerDesk shows my drive is only 1.07 gig big.
>> I thought it was 16 gig. I bought it at a flea market. 16 gig for
>> only 30 dollars. I think it was still sealed in the original packaging,
>> but it's been 3 weeks and now I'm not sure. (maybe I'll find the
>> packaging and that will remind me.
>
>Or maybe you got one of the fakes that are nothing like the size claimed.
>
>> I thought I plugged it in the day I bought it and it was 16,
>> and I thought it said 16 gig on the packaging, but I'm not
>> sure about either of those now, either.
>
>> So maybe only part of it is partitioned?
>
>Its more likely its a fake.
>
>> Easeus Partition Master doesn't even show the flashdrive.
>> PM8 boot disk won't show any USB drive.
>> PM8 under Windows worked the first time I installed it and now
>> freezes the computer every time I try to use it, except maybe once
>> each time I uninstall and reinstall.
>
>> XP Help won't show me anything relevant for Partition Manager .
>> I have to go google to learn the phrase disk management.
>
>> So use Help to find Disk Management and I run it, and the map at
>> the bottom shows the flashdrive as 15.92 gig, FAT32, and healthy.
>
>That healthy label just means there is no blindingly
>obvious problem, not that it really is completely healthy.
>
>> But the chart at the top says it's capacity is 1.07 gig and it has 58 megs
> free, 5%.
>
>> So which is it?
>
>Most likely its a fake.
>
>> Any help is appreciated.
>
>Even help to hang yourself ? Funky.
>
>> PS: The drive seems to have linux files of some sort on it.
>> Twelve files, rootfs.img is the biggest, about 1 gig big. It
>> has a subdirectory called "recovery" that has 7 files. If linux is
>> already installed, I'd like to keep it and try it, so if I can get at
>> the other 15 gig, I'd like to that non-destructively if possible.
>
>So it cant have been sealed.
>
>> PPS: The drive is covered in leather, with metal trim, and the cap is
>> connected to the drive with a leather strap, cut so the cap slides on
>> the leather but won't come off. I never saw anything like this before.
>> No brand name.
>
>Bet its a fake.
>
>

Hey Speed, instead of being the biggest cockgobbler on usenet, why dont you
point the OP to some usefull software that will check, and verify, and format
the full capacity of the drive?????


http://webtrickz.
com/usb-flash-tools-backuprestoreeraseverify-capacity-of-a-memory-card-or-usb-
drive/

"Use it to create a backup image (with optional compression) of a flash drive
or restore a backup image. It erases a drive securely by overwriting its
content and making data irretrievable. Also, it can detect fake flash devices
that report false and incorrect memory capacity."


Direct link here:

http://sdean12.org/zipped2/USBFlashTools200.zip

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, mm <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:40:07 +1100, "Rod Speed"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>
>>> XP Help won't show me anything relevant for Partition Manager .
>>> I have to go google to learn the phrase disk management.
>>
>>> So use Help to find Disk Management and I run it, and the map at
>>> the bottom shows the flashdrive as 15.92 gig, FAT32, and healthy.
>>
>>That healthy label just means there is no blindingly
>>obvious problem, not that it really is completely healthy.
>
>You've just about convinced me it's a fake, but how did it fool XP
>Disk Management, half of which says it's 15.92 gig?
>
>>
>>> But the chart at the top says it's capacity is 1.07 gig and it has 58 megs
> free, 5%.
>>
>>> So which is it?
>>
>>Most likely its a fake.
>

http://webtrickz.
com/usb-flash-tools-backuprestoreeraseverify-capacity-of-a-memory-card-or-usb-
drive/

"Use it to create a backup image (with optional compression) of a flash drive
or restore a backup image. It erases a drive securely by overwriting its
content and making data irretrievable. Also, it can detect fake flash devices
that report false and incorrect memory capacity."


Direct link here:

http://sdean12.org/zipped2/USBFlashTools200.zip

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Rod Speed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>mm wrote
>> Rod Speed <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>>> mm wrote
>
>>>> XP Help won't show me anything relevant for Partition Manager .
>>>> I have to go google to learn the phrase disk management.
>
>>>> So use Help to find Disk Management and I run it, and the map at
>>>> the bottom shows the flashdrive as 15.92 gig, FAT32, and healthy.
>
>>> That healthy label just means there is no blindingly
>>> obvious problem, not that it really is completely healthy.
>
>> You've just about convinced me it's a fake, but how did it fool
>> XP Disk Management, half of which says it's 15.92 gig?
>
>It isnt that hard to fool that bit of XP, it just asks the device
>how big it is and it believes any lie the device tells it on that.
>
>The same thing happens with drives short stroked by the manufacturer
>when they no longer make the size that is replaced under warranty and
>they ship the bigger one that they currently make and just short stroke it so
>it claims to be smaller than it actually is, normally with rotating hard
> drives.

Name one manufacturer today that does that?
>
>
>

You got a fake. They pretend to be large, but when you
try to put data on them, that fails very early on.
It is strongly advisable not to use these at all,
as they likely also use substandaard, unreliable chips
in addition.

The only sensible thing you can do with this is to
dispose of it or use it as a demonstration object on
how flash drives get faked.

You can of couse increase you losses by believing that
no, this could not have happened to you, and add more
time to what the criminals already took from you. This
seems to be a surprisingly common reaction.

Arno







mm <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Somehow I never get rid of all my problems and questions.

> How do I know how big my flashdrive is?

> Today I went to use my NIB flashdrive and it says there is no room to
> copy AVG11 to it (to install on another computer *before* going on the
> net.) PowerDesk shows my drive is only 1.07 gig big. I thought it
> was 16 gig. I bought it at a flea market. 16 gig for only 30
> dollars. I think it was still sealed in the original packaging, but
> it's been 3 weeks and now I'm not sure. (maybe I'll find the
> packaging and that will remind me.

> I thought I plugged it in the day I bought it and it was 16, and I
> thought it said 16 gig on the packaging, but I'm not sure about either
> of those now, either.

> So maybe only part of it is partitioned?

> Easeus Partition Master doesn't even show the flashdrive.
> PM8 boot disk won't show any USB drive.
> PM8 under Windows worked the first time I installed it and now
> freezes the computer every time I try to use it, except maybe once
> each time I uninstall and reinstall.
> XP Help won't show me anything relevant for Partition Manager .
> I have to go google to learn the phrase disk management.
>
> So use Help to find Disk Management and I run it, and the map at the
> bottom shows the flashdrive as 15.92 gig, FAT32, and healthy. But
> the chart at the top says it's capacity is 1.07 gig and it has 58 megs
> free, 5%.

> So which is it?

> Any help is appreciated.

> PS: The drive seems to have linux files of some sort on it. Twelve
> files, rootfs.img is the biggest, about 1 gig big. It has a
> subdirectory called "recovery" that has 7 files. If linux is already
> installed, I'd like to keep it and try it, so if I can get at the
> other 15 gig, I'd like to that non-destructively if possible.

> PPS: The drive is covered in leather, with metal trim, and the cap is
> connected to the drive with a leather strap, cut so the cap slides on
> the leather but won't come off. I never saw anything like this
> before. No brand name.



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