Hi all,

We are looking for beta testers of our first product - Fragmento.

Fragmento is great for people who want to select only a small portion
of a web page to print, save, transfer to a handheld, etc. Full
information about the product is available at
http://www.acmeta.com/fragmento/index.html.

If you are interested, please send us a message at (E-Mail Removed).

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Mike Sanders, Acmeta
http://www.acmeta.com/

Mike wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We are looking for beta testers of our first product - Fragmento.
>
> Fragmento is great for people who want to select only a small portion
> of a web page to print, save, transfer to a handheld, etc. Full
> information about the product is available at
> http://www.acmeta.com/fragmento/index.html.
>
> If you are interested, please send us a message at (E-Mail Removed).
>
> Your help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Mike Sanders, Acmeta
> http://www.acmeta.com/

Works on IE only and expires on August 31st.

Not anything close to freeware or freeware friendly.

> Works on IE only
That's disappointing. They should rather make it for Firefox! IE sucks.

Eric wrote:


> Works on IE only and expires on August 31st.
>
> Not anything close to freeware or freeware friendly.
>

That's truly disappointing. I was interested by the concept, but if it only
works with IE then I wouldn't have a use for it and therefor wouldn't be
interested in helping beta test it.

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Ben Thomas wrote:

> Eric wrote:
>
>
>> Works on IE only and expires on August 31st.
>>
>> Not anything close to freeware or freeware friendly.
>>
>
> That's truly disappointing. I was interested by the concept, but if it
> only works with IE then I wouldn't have a use for it and therefor
> wouldn't be interested in helping beta test it.

Also, this software does not even run on hand held computers. It only runs on
desktop Windows and allows you to manually copy the clips to a handheld device.

--
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On 15 Aug 2005 11:36:17 -0700, "Eric" <(E-Mail Removed)> spewed forth these
words of wisdom:

>
>Mike wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We are looking for beta testers of our first product - Fragmento.
>>
>> Fragmento is great for people who want to select only a small portion
>> of a web page to print, save, transfer to a handheld, etc. Full
>> information about the product is available at
>> http://www.acmeta.com/fragmento/index.html.
>>
>> If you are interested, please send us a message at (E-Mail Removed).
>>
>> Your help is greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Mike Sanders, Acmeta
>> http://www.acmeta.com/
>
>Works on IE only and expires on August 31st.
>

No support for Opera? No thanks.

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Galley

"Galley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On 15 Aug 2005 11:36:17 -0700, "Eric" <(E-Mail Removed)> spewed forth
> these
> words of wisdom:
>
>>
>>Mike wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We are looking for beta testers of our first product - Fragmento.
>>>
>>> Fragmento is great for people who want to select only a small portion
>>> of a web page to print, save, transfer to a handheld, etc. Full
>>> information about the product is available at
>>> http://www.acmeta.com/fragmento/index.html.
>>>
>>> If you are interested, please send us a message at (E-Mail Removed).
>>>
>>> Your help is greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Mike Sanders, Acmeta
>>> http://www.acmeta.com/
>>
>>Works on IE only and expires on August 31st.
>>
>
> No support for Opera? No thanks.
>
> --
> "I'm not a cool person in real life, but I play one on the Internet"
> Galley
Why don't the authors read the clipboard instead of data from some specific
program like Internet Explorer?

Seems to me that by working with the clipboard they would make a much more
useful program.

The user would select the area of interest, from *any* Windows program and
do edit/copy to get the selection onto the clipboard. From there Fragmento
could do its thing.

Given that clipboards exist in other OS's, it would also be easy to make
versions for Mac, Linux, etc.

I have not charged and will not charge for this idea.

--
Harold Fuchs
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.

"Harold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:dds2gl$aur$1$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Galley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On 15 Aug 2005 11:36:17 -0700, "Eric" <(E-Mail Removed)> spewed forth
>> these
>> words of wisdom:
>>
>>>
>>>Mike wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> We are looking for beta testers of our first product - Fragmento.
>>>>
>>>> Fragmento is great for people who want to select only a small portion
>>>> of a web page to print, save, transfer to a handheld, etc. Full
>>>> information about the product is available at
>>>> http://www.acmeta.com/fragmento/index.html.
>>>>
>>>> If you are interested, please send us a message at (E-Mail Removed).
>>>>
>>>> Your help is greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Mike Sanders, Acmeta
>>>> http://www.acmeta.com/
>>>
>>>Works on IE only and expires on August 31st.
>>>
>>
>> No support for Opera? No thanks.
>>
>> --
>> "I'm not a cool person in real life, but I play one on the Internet"
>> Galley
> Why don't the authors read the clipboard instead of data from some
> specific program like Internet Explorer?
>
> Seems to me that by working with the clipboard they would make a much more
> useful program.
>
> The user would select the area of interest, from *any* Windows program and
> do edit/copy to get the selection onto the clipboard. From there Fragmento
> could do its thing.
>
> Given that clipboards exist in other OS's, it would also be easy to make
> versions for Mac, Linux, etc.
>
> I have not charged and will not charge for this idea.
>
> --
> Harold Fuchs
> Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
>
Oh, I forgot. There's a *free* program at
http://www.netadmintools.com/art346.html that prints the contents of the
Windows clipboard.

--
Harold Fuchs
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 08:39:53 +0100, "Harold"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> http://www.acmeta.com/fragmento/index.html.

I'd be more worried that the website takes ages to load (DNS?).. not a
good start for a product.


>> Seems to me that by working with the clipboard they would make a much more
>> useful program.
SNIP
>Oh, I forgot. There's a *free* program at
>http://www.netadmintools.com/art346.html that prints the contents of the
>Windows clipboard.

Problem with this idea is that not every thing will be captured. The
above program you suggested doesn't capture formatting, enbeded images
etc... along with the text. It is one or the other depending what you
select.

Opera web browser does not copy images alongside text.

Internet explorer uses some standard windows interface so will copy
text, formatting and images from itself and can be pasted directly
into Word (although I suspect it downloads the image rather than
taking that on clipboard...)

The fragmento thing says it clips everything so I suspect that is why
it needs to be browser specific as all browsers will do this in a
different way.

It is likely Fragmento just hooks into the way IE allows copying
through to other MS products?

Pete

"Pete" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 08:39:53 +0100, "Harold"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> http://www.acmeta.com/fragmento/index.html.
>
> I'd be more worried that the website takes ages to load (DNS?).. not a
> good start for a product.
>
>
>>> Seems to me that by working with the clipboard they would make a much
>>> more
>>> useful program.
> SNIP
>>Oh, I forgot. There's a *free* program at
>>http://www.netadmintools.com/art346.html that prints the contents of the
>>Windows clipboard.
>
> Problem with this idea is that not every thing will be captured. The
> above program you suggested doesn't capture formatting, enbeded images
> etc... along with the text. It is one or the other depending what you
> select.
>
> Opera web browser does not copy images alongside text.
>
> Internet explorer uses some standard windows interface so will copy
> text, formatting and images from itself and can be pasted directly
> into Word (although I suspect it downloads the image rather than
> taking that on clipboard...)
>
> The fragmento thing says it clips everything so I suspect that is why
> it needs to be browser specific as all browsers will do this in a
> different way.
>
> It is likely Fragmento just hooks into the way IE allows copying
> through to other MS products?
>
> Pete
Pete said "The above program you suggested doesn't capture formatting,
enbeded images etc... along with the text. It is one or the other depending
what you select."

I wasn't suggesting you could use this program as is. It *obviously* won't
handle copying stuff to a PDA. I was suggesting that the folk writing
Fragmento should look to it as a model; perhaps even get in touch with the
authors and see if they can come to some arrangement for code-sharing or
whatever.

Copying stuff to the clipboard does a pretty good job of capturing text and
images although formatting can be an issue. However, I *think* that the
formatting issue is with the paste operation rather than with the copy. I
could be wrong here though. The reason I think it's correct is that the
results are different depending on what you paste into.

--
Harold Fuchs
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.