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Catherine Jo Morgan
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      10th Mar 2004
I have a footer plus several navigation lists that are included content.
They work fine but now I'm wondering how to deal with page title,
description, etc. I don't want anyone to view just these fragments of a
page. I want search engines to see the navigation content so they'll find
pages inside the site. But I don't want viewers to see the included content
pages by themselves. So do I just skip giving these pages any description?
Use a title that makes it clear that they're just part of other pages? TIA
 
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Steve Easton
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      10th Mar 2004
I normally title them as to what they are. However I add the
noindex,nofollow meta tag to the include pages.
<meta NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="noindex,nofollow">

Included content is actually written to pages using it at publish time,
therefore the search bots really don't need to crawl the include pages to
follow the navigation, as it is actually *in* the pages.

Now the interesting / confusing part. If you open a page with included
content in FrontPage and look at html view, the included content isn't
there, also if you open the live site with FrontPage and look at the page in
html view it doesn't show there either. This is a result of a little
FrontPage *magic.*

But, if you open the page in the browser and view source, it is there.!!!
The browser version is what the search engines see.

hth
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Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed..................
...............................with a computer


"Catherine Jo Morgan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have a footer plus several navigation lists that are included content.
> They work fine but now I'm wondering how to deal with page title,
> description, etc. I don't want anyone to view just these fragments of a
> page. I want search engines to see the navigation content so they'll find
> pages inside the site. But I don't want viewers to see the included
content
> pages by themselves. So do I just skip giving these pages any description?
> Use a title that makes it clear that they're just part of other pages? TIA
>
>
 
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Crash Gordon
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      10th Mar 2004
inline...


"Steve Easton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
| I normally title them as to what they are. However I add the
| noindex,nofollow meta tag to the include pages.
| <meta NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="noindex,nofollow">
|
| Included content is actually written to pages using it at publish time,
| therefore the search bots really don't need to crawl the include pages to
| follow the navigation, as it is actually *in* the pages.
|
| Now the interesting / confusing part. If you open a page with included
| content in FrontPage and look at html view, the included content isn't
| there, also if you open the live site with FrontPage and look at the page in
| html view it doesn't show there either. This is a result of a little
| FrontPage *magic.*

This is an interesting feature...can it be used to hide stuff...like email addresses maybe?



|
| But, if you open the page in the browser and view source, it is there.!!!
| The browser version is what the search engines see.
|
| hth
| --
| Steve Easton
| Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| 95isalive
| This site is best viewed..................
| ..............................with a computer
|
|
| "Catherine Jo Morgan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| > I have a footer plus several navigation lists that are included content.
| > They work fine but now I'm wondering how to deal with page title,
| > description, etc. I don't want anyone to view just these fragments of a
| > page. I want search engines to see the navigation content so they'll find
| > pages inside the site. But I don't want viewers to see the included
| content
| > pages by themselves. So do I just skip giving these pages any description?
| > Use a title that makes it clear that they're just part of other pages? TIA
| >
| >
|
|
 
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chris leeds
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      10th Mar 2004
don't worry about it. FrontPage only includes the content between the
<body> and </body> tags.
that's why people sometimes have a hard time getting JavaScript stuff to
work with them since the default location for the JavaScript or the ref. to
it is in the <head></head> section.
HTH

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"Catherine Jo Morgan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have a footer plus several navigation lists that are included content.
> They work fine but now I'm wondering how to deal with page title,
> description, etc. I don't want anyone to view just these fragments of a
> page. I want search engines to see the navigation content so they'll find
> pages inside the site. But I don't want viewers to see the included
content
> pages by themselves. So do I just skip giving these pages any description?
> Use a title that makes it clear that they're just part of other pages? TIA
>
>
 
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Steve Easton
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      10th Mar 2004
nope.

But the best trick I've seen to hide an email addy was to embed it in a
little javascript.
It was posted awhile back but I wasn't smart enough to save it.


"Crash Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed..................
...............................with a
computernews:(E-Mail Removed)...
inline...


"Steve Easton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
| I normally title them as to what they are. However I add the
| noindex,nofollow meta tag to the include pages.
| <meta NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="noindex,nofollow">
|
| Included content is actually written to pages using it at publish time,
| therefore the search bots really don't need to crawl the include pages to
| follow the navigation, as it is actually *in* the pages.
|
| Now the interesting / confusing part. If you open a page with included
| content in FrontPage and look at html view, the included content isn't
| there, also if you open the live site with FrontPage and look at the page
in
| html view it doesn't show there either. This is a result of a little
| FrontPage *magic.*

This is an interesting feature...can it be used to hide stuff...like email
addresses maybe?



|
| But, if you open the page in the browser and view source, it is there.!!!
| The browser version is what the search engines see.
|
| hth
| --
| Steve Easton
| Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| 95isalive
| This site is best viewed..................
| ..............................with a computer
|
|
| "Catherine Jo Morgan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| > I have a footer plus several navigation lists that are included content.
| > They work fine but now I'm wondering how to deal with page title,
| > description, etc. I don't want anyone to view just these fragments of a
| > page. I want search engines to see the navigation content so they'll
find
| > pages inside the site. But I don't want viewers to see the included
| content
| > pages by themselves. So do I just skip giving these pages any
description?
| > Use a title that makes it clear that they're just part of other pages?
TIA
| >
| >
|
|
 
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chris leeds
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      10th Mar 2004
here ya go:
http://www.hiveware.com/enkoder_form.php

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spam.
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"Steve Easton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> nope.
>
> But the best trick I've seen to hide an email addy was to embed it in a
> little javascript.
> It was posted awhile back but I wasn't smart enough to save it.
>
>
> "Crash Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> --
> Steve Easton
> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> 95isalive
> This site is best viewed..................
> ..............................with a
> computernews:(E-Mail Removed)...
> inline...
>
>
> "Steve Easton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
> | I normally title them as to what they are. However I add the
> | noindex,nofollow meta tag to the include pages.
> | <meta NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="noindex,nofollow">
> |
> | Included content is actually written to pages using it at publish time,
> | therefore the search bots really don't need to crawl the include pages
to
> | follow the navigation, as it is actually *in* the pages.
> |
> | Now the interesting / confusing part. If you open a page with included
> | content in FrontPage and look at html view, the included content isn't
> | there, also if you open the live site with FrontPage and look at the
page
> in
> | html view it doesn't show there either. This is a result of a little
> | FrontPage *magic.*
>
> This is an interesting feature...can it be used to hide stuff...like email
> addresses maybe?
>
>
>
> |
> | But, if you open the page in the browser and view source, it is
there.!!!
> | The browser version is what the search engines see.
> |
> | hth
> | --
> | Steve Easton
> | Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> | 95isalive
> | This site is best viewed..................
> | ..............................with a computer
> |
> |
> | "Catherine Jo Morgan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> | news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> | > I have a footer plus several navigation lists that are included
content.
> | > They work fine but now I'm wondering how to deal with page title,
> | > description, etc. I don't want anyone to view just these fragments of
a
> | > page. I want search engines to see the navigation content so they'll
> find
> | > pages inside the site. But I don't want viewers to see the included
> | content
> | > pages by themselves. So do I just skip giving these pages any
> description?
> | > Use a title that makes it clear that they're just part of other pages?
> TIA
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>
 
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Catherine Jo Morgan
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      10th Mar 2004
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
inline...

<This is an interesting feature...can it be used to hide <stuff...like email
addresses maybe?


If the search engines can read it, then it seems as if any robot could - so
I don't think it could hide email addresses. But maybe I misunderstood your
idea.
"Crash Gordon"

|
| But, if you open the page in the browser and view source, it is there.!!!
| The browser version is what the search engines see.
|
| hth
| --
| Steve Easton
| Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| 95isalive
| This site is best viewed..................
| ..............................with a computer
|
|
| "Catherine Jo Morgan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| > I have a footer plus several navigation lists that are included content.
| > They work fine but now I'm wondering how to deal with page title,
| > description, etc. I don't want anyone to view just these fragments of a
| > page. I want search engines to see the navigation content so they'll
find
| > pages inside the site. But I don't want viewers to see the included
| content
| > pages by themselves. So do I just skip giving these pages any
description?
| > Use a title that makes it clear that they're just part of other pages?
TIA
| >
| >
|
|
 
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Steve Easton
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      10th Mar 2004
Not the one I was talking about. It was a little script posted here, which
contained the parts of the email address as variables. When the email
*link* was clicked, the function in the script *assembled* the email
address.

I think it was ronx that posted it.


--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed..................
...............................with a computer

"chris leeds" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> here ya go:
> http://www.hiveware.com/enkoder_form.php
>
> --
> The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all
the
> spam.
> Please feel free to contact me here:
> http://nedp.net/contact/
> --
>
>
> "Steve Easton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > nope.
> >
> > But the best trick I've seen to hide an email addy was to embed it in a
> > little javascript.
> > It was posted awhile back but I wasn't smart enough to save it.
> >
> >
> > "Crash Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > --
> > Steve Easton
> > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> > 95isalive
> > This site is best viewed..................
> > ..............................with a
> > computernews:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > inline...
> >
> >
> > "Steve Easton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
> > | I normally title them as to what they are. However I add the
> > | noindex,nofollow meta tag to the include pages.
> > | <meta NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="noindex,nofollow">
> > |
> > | Included content is actually written to pages using it at publish
time,
> > | therefore the search bots really don't need to crawl the include pages
> to
> > | follow the navigation, as it is actually *in* the pages.
> > |
> > | Now the interesting / confusing part. If you open a page with
included
> > | content in FrontPage and look at html view, the included content isn't
> > | there, also if you open the live site with FrontPage and look at the
> page
> > in
> > | html view it doesn't show there either. This is a result of a little
> > | FrontPage *magic.*
> >
> > This is an interesting feature...can it be used to hide stuff...like
email
> > addresses maybe?
> >
> >
> >
> > |
> > | But, if you open the page in the browser and view source, it is
> there.!!!
> > | The browser version is what the search engines see.
> > |
> > | hth
> > | --
> > | Steve Easton
> > | Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> > | 95isalive
> > | This site is best viewed..................
> > | ..............................with a computer
> > |
> > |
> > | "Catherine Jo Morgan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > | news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > | > I have a footer plus several navigation lists that are included
> content.
> > | > They work fine but now I'm wondering how to deal with page title,
> > | > description, etc. I don't want anyone to view just these fragments
of
> a
> > | > page. I want search engines to see the navigation content so they'll
> > find
> > | > pages inside the site. But I don't want viewers to see the included
> > | content
> > | > pages by themselves. So do I just skip giving these pages any
> > description?
> > | > Use a title that makes it clear that they're just part of other
pages?
> > TIA
> > | >
> > | >
> > |
> > |
> >
> >
>
>
 
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chris leeds
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      10th Mar 2004
can't see how it'd be any better than the hiveware thingy. one might even
save their code into the "clip library" and just swipe it out whenever
needed. (I don't have a clip library, well, not in fp at least.)

--
The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all the
spam.
Please feel free to contact me here:
http://nedp.net/contact/
--


"Steve Easton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Not the one I was talking about. It was a little script posted here,
which
> contained the parts of the email address as variables. When the email
> *link* was clicked, the function in the script *assembled* the email
> address.
>
> I think it was ronx that posted it.
>
>
> --
> Steve Easton
> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> 95isalive
> This site is best viewed..................
> ..............................with a computer
>
> "chris leeds" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > here ya go:
> > http://www.hiveware.com/enkoder_form.php
> >
> > --
> > The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all
> the
> > spam.
> > Please feel free to contact me here:
> > http://nedp.net/contact/
> > --
> >
> >
> > "Steve Easton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > nope.
> > >
> > > But the best trick I've seen to hide an email addy was to embed it in
a
> > > little javascript.
> > > It was posted awhile back but I wasn't smart enough to save it.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Crash Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > --
> > > Steve Easton
> > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> > > 95isalive
> > > This site is best viewed..................
> > > ..............................with a
> > > computernews:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > inline...
> > >
> > >
> > > "Steve Easton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > | I normally title them as to what they are. However I add the
> > > | noindex,nofollow meta tag to the include pages.
> > > | <meta NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="noindex,nofollow">
> > > |
> > > | Included content is actually written to pages using it at publish
> time,
> > > | therefore the search bots really don't need to crawl the include
pages
> > to
> > > | follow the navigation, as it is actually *in* the pages.
> > > |
> > > | Now the interesting / confusing part. If you open a page with
> included
> > > | content in FrontPage and look at html view, the included content
isn't
> > > | there, also if you open the live site with FrontPage and look at the
> > page
> > > in
> > > | html view it doesn't show there either. This is a result of a
little
> > > | FrontPage *magic.*
> > >
> > > This is an interesting feature...can it be used to hide stuff...like
> email
> > > addresses maybe?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > |
> > > | But, if you open the page in the browser and view source, it is
> > there.!!!
> > > | The browser version is what the search engines see.
> > > |
> > > | hth
> > > | --
> > > | Steve Easton
> > > | Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> > > | 95isalive
> > > | This site is best viewed..................
> > > | ..............................with a computer
> > > |
> > > |
> > > | "Catherine Jo Morgan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > | news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > | > I have a footer plus several navigation lists that are included
> > content.
> > > | > They work fine but now I'm wondering how to deal with page title,
> > > | > description, etc. I don't want anyone to view just these fragments
> of
> > a
> > > | > page. I want search engines to see the navigation content so
they'll
> > > find
> > > | > pages inside the site. But I don't want viewers to see the
included
> > > | content
> > > | > pages by themselves. So do I just skip giving these pages any
> > > description?
> > > | > Use a title that makes it clear that they're just part of other
> pages?
> > > TIA
> > > | >
> > > | >
> > > |
> > > |
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
 
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Steve Easton
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      10th Mar 2004
Actually it's much better, as it's about 3 lines of script.

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Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed..................
...............................with a computer

"chris leeds" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> can't see how it'd be any better than the hiveware thingy. one might even
> save their code into the "clip library" and just swipe it out whenever
> needed. (I don't have a clip library, well, not in fp at least.)
>
> --
> The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all
the
> spam.
> Please feel free to contact me here:
> http://nedp.net/contact/
> --
>
>
> "Steve Easton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Not the one I was talking about. It was a little script posted here,
> which
> > contained the parts of the email address as variables. When the email
> > *link* was clicked, the function in the script *assembled* the email
> > address.
> >
> > I think it was ronx that posted it.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Steve Easton
> > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> > 95isalive
> > This site is best viewed..................
> > ..............................with a computer
> >
> > "chris leeds" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > here ya go:
> > > http://www.hiveware.com/enkoder_form.php
> > >
> > > --
> > > The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of
all
> > the
> > > spam.
> > > Please feel free to contact me here:
> > > http://nedp.net/contact/
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > > "Steve Easton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > nope.
> > > >
> > > > But the best trick I've seen to hide an email addy was to embed it
in
> a
> > > > little javascript.
> > > > It was posted awhile back but I wasn't smart enough to save it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Crash Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > --
> > > > Steve Easton
> > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> > > > 95isalive
> > > > This site is best viewed..................
> > > > ..............................with a
> > > > computernews:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > inline...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Steve Easton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > | I normally title them as to what they are. However I add the
> > > > | noindex,nofollow meta tag to the include pages.
> > > > | <meta NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="noindex,nofollow">
> > > > |
> > > > | Included content is actually written to pages using it at publish
> > time,
> > > > | therefore the search bots really don't need to crawl the include
> pages
> > > to
> > > > | follow the navigation, as it is actually *in* the pages.
> > > > |
> > > > | Now the interesting / confusing part. If you open a page with
> > included
> > > > | content in FrontPage and look at html view, the included content
> isn't
> > > > | there, also if you open the live site with FrontPage and look at
the
> > > page
> > > > in
> > > > | html view it doesn't show there either. This is a result of a
> little
> > > > | FrontPage *magic.*
> > > >
> > > > This is an interesting feature...can it be used to hide stuff...like
> > email
> > > > addresses maybe?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > |
> > > > | But, if you open the page in the browser and view source, it is
> > > there.!!!
> > > > | The browser version is what the search engines see.
> > > > |
> > > > | hth
> > > > | --
> > > > | Steve Easton
> > > > | Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> > > > | 95isalive
> > > > | This site is best viewed..................
> > > > | ..............................with a computer
> > > > |
> > > > |
> > > > | "Catherine Jo Morgan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > | news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > | > I have a footer plus several navigation lists that are included
> > > content.
> > > > | > They work fine but now I'm wondering how to deal with page
title,
> > > > | > description, etc. I don't want anyone to view just these
fragments
> > of
> > > a
> > > > | > page. I want search engines to see the navigation content so
> they'll
> > > > find
> > > > | > pages inside the site. But I don't want viewers to see the
> included
> > > > | content
> > > > | > pages by themselves. So do I just skip giving these pages any
> > > > description?
> > > > | > Use a title that makes it clear that they're just part of other
> > pages?
> > > > TIA
> > > > | >
> > > > | >
> > > > |
> > > > |
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
 
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