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Erin Cox-Holmes
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      2nd Oct 2005
I have a FP Web which I update using FP2003, and which is maintained on a
Win2003 server.

I need to establish part of the site as a "members only" login deal, and am
not sure what the current state of the art is for the best way to accomplish
this.

Currently I restrict access to particular files by using passworded pdfs,
but a I need a more streamlined solution. The purpose of the protected area
would be to post member directories (we're a denominational office) and
minutes from sensitive committees.

thanks!


 
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clintonG
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      2nd Oct 2005
The best solution is to use ASP.NET 2.0 Membership, Roles, and Profiles but
amateurs are usually advised to use FrontPage subwebs which is crippleware
in comparison.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/




"Erin Cox-Holmes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have a FP Web which I update using FP2003, and which is maintained on a
>Win2003 server.
>
> I need to establish part of the site as a "members only" login deal, and
> am not sure what the current state of the art is for the best way to
> accomplish this.
>
> Currently I restrict access to particular files by using passworded pdfs,
> but a I need a more streamlined solution. The purpose of the protected
> area would be to post member directories (we're a denominational office)
> and minutes from sensitive committees.
>
> thanks!
>



 
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Erin Cox-Holmes
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      2nd Oct 2005
Thanks Clinton. I have asp enabled on my site: is there a manual anywhere on
how to implement this? I find the permissions on the FP subwebs quite
frustrating

thanks,
Erin Cox-Holmes
"clintonG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> The best solution is to use ASP.NET 2.0 Membership, Roles, and Profiles
> but amateurs are usually advised to use FrontPage subwebs which is
> crippleware in comparison.
>
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
>
>
>
>
> "Erin Cox-Holmes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I have a FP Web which I update using FP2003, and which is maintained on a
>>Win2003 server.
>>
>> I need to establish part of the site as a "members only" login deal, and
>> am not sure what the current state of the art is for the best way to
>> accomplish this.
>>
>> Currently I restrict access to particular files by using passworded pdfs,
>> but a I need a more streamlined solution. The purpose of the protected
>> area would be to post member directories (we're a denominational office)
>> and minutes from sensitive committees.
>>
>> thanks!
>>

>
>



 
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Thomas A. Rowe
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      2nd Oct 2005
See:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;321439

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

"Erin Cox-Holmes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks Clinton. I have asp enabled on my site: is there a manual anywhere on how to implement
> this? I find the permissions on the FP subwebs quite frustrating
>
> thanks,
> Erin Cox-Holmes
> "clintonG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> The best solution is to use ASP.NET 2.0 Membership, Roles, and Profiles but amateurs are usually
>> advised to use FrontPage subwebs which is crippleware in comparison.
>>
>> <%= Clinton Gallagher
>> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
>> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
>> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
>> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Erin Cox-Holmes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>I have a FP Web which I update using FP2003, and which is maintained on a Win2003 server.
>>>
>>> I need to establish part of the site as a "members only" login deal, and am not sure what the
>>> current state of the art is for the best way to accomplish this.
>>>
>>> Currently I restrict access to particular files by using passworded pdfs, but a I need a more
>>> streamlined solution. The purpose of the protected area would be to post member directories
>>> (we're a denominational office) and minutes from sensitive committees.
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



 
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p c
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      3rd Oct 2005
For a simple ASP solution, check out mylogin or similar scripts.

http://www.planet-source-code.com/vb...=6137&lngWId=4

Is your site an Internet site or an INTRANET site?

...PC


Erin Cox-Holmes wrote:

> I have a FP Web which I update using FP2003, and which is maintained on a
> Win2003 server.
>
> I need to establish part of the site as a "members only" login deal, and am
> not sure what the current state of the art is for the best way to accomplish
> this.
>
> Currently I restrict access to particular files by using passworded pdfs,
> but a I need a more streamlined solution. The purpose of the protected area
> would be to post member directories (we're a denominational office) and
> minutes from sensitive committees.
>
> thanks!
>
>

 
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Erin Cox-Holmes
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      3rd Oct 2005
It's an INternet site
thanks

"p c" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> For a simple ASP solution, check out mylogin or similar scripts.
>
> http://www.planet-source-code.com/vb...=6137&lngWId=4
>
> Is your site an Internet site or an INTRANET site?
>
> ..PC
>
>
> Erin Cox-Holmes wrote:
>
>> I have a FP Web which I update using FP2003, and which is maintained on a
>> Win2003 server.
>>
>> I need to establish part of the site as a "members only" login deal, and
>> am not sure what the current state of the art is for the best way to
>> accomplish this.
>>
>> Currently I restrict access to particular files by using passworded pdfs,
>> but a I need a more streamlined solution. The purpose of the protected
>> area would be to post member directories (we're a denominational office)
>> and minutes from sensitive committees.
>>
>> thanks!



 
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clintonG
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      3rd Oct 2005
I've used ASP to write dealer, membership etc. solutions and the link Rowe
provided may be useful for a lightweight solution but again, the ASP.NET
Membership System alone is justification for migrating to ASP.NET for those
who have comprehensive requirements as you have expressed.

ASP.NET requires more programming skill but is way way 'bester' than ASP
which is crippleware in comparsion. Briefly, Roles of the Membership system
for example support allow or deny access right down to specific elements on
a page itself and scale up to the entire section of a site or the entire
site itself. For example, Members will see a specific menu but Guests will
not. Managers will see certain content but Editors will not. Roles are
virtually unlimited.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/


"Erin Cox-Holmes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks Clinton. I have asp enabled on my site: is there a manual anywhere
> on how to implement this? I find the permissions on the FP subwebs quite
> frustrating
>
> thanks,
> Erin Cox-Holmes
> "clintonG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> The best solution is to use ASP.NET 2.0 Membership, Roles, and Profiles
>> but amateurs are usually advised to use FrontPage subwebs which is
>> crippleware in comparison.
>>
>> <%= Clinton Gallagher
>> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
>> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
>> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
>> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Erin Cox-Holmes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>I have a FP Web which I update using FP2003, and which is maintained on a
>>>Win2003 server.
>>>
>>> I need to establish part of the site as a "members only" login deal, and
>>> am not sure what the current state of the art is for the best way to
>>> accomplish this.
>>>
>>> Currently I restrict access to particular files by using passworded
>>> pdfs, but a I need a more streamlined solution. The purpose of the
>>> protected area would be to post member directories (we're a
>>> denominational office) and minutes from sensitive committees.
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



 
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Thomas A. Rowe
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      3rd Oct 2005
Gallagher,

You can write heavy duty dealer, membership, etc. solutions using ASP/VBScript as well, that can
cover the requirements Erin indicated, as well as allowing for additional restricted access based on
the level or position of the user within the organization to areas within the restricted area.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

"clintonG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I've used ASP to write dealer, membership etc. solutions and the link Rowe provided may be useful
> for a lightweight solution but again, the ASP.NET Membership System alone is justification for
> migrating to ASP.NET for those who have comprehensive requirements as you have expressed.
>
> ASP.NET requires more programming skill but is way way 'bester' than ASP which is crippleware in
> comparsion. Briefly, Roles of the Membership system for example support allow or deny access right
> down to specific elements on a page itself and scale up to the entire section of a site or the
> entire site itself. For example, Members will see a specific menu but Guests will not. Managers
> will see certain content but Editors will not. Roles are virtually unlimited.
>
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
>
>
> "Erin Cox-Holmes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thanks Clinton. I have asp enabled on my site: is there a manual anywhere on how to implement
>> this? I find the permissions on the FP subwebs quite frustrating
>>
>> thanks,
>> Erin Cox-Holmes
>> "clintonG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> The best solution is to use ASP.NET 2.0 Membership, Roles, and Profiles but amateurs are usually
>>> advised to use FrontPage subwebs which is crippleware in comparison.
>>>
>>> <%= Clinton Gallagher
>>> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
>>> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
>>> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
>>> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Erin Cox-Holmes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>I have a FP Web which I update using FP2003, and which is maintained on a Win2003 server.
>>>>
>>>> I need to establish part of the site as a "members only" login deal, and am not sure what the
>>>> current state of the art is for the best way to accomplish this.
>>>>
>>>> Currently I restrict access to particular files by using passworded pdfs, but a I need a more
>>>> streamlined solution. The purpose of the protected area would be to post member directories
>>>> (we're a denominational office) and minutes from sensitive committees.
>>>>
>>>> thanks!
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



 
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clintonG
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      4th Oct 2005
ASP is lame in comparison and developing a solution anywhere near what can
be accomplished using ASP.NET 2.0 is not fiscally sound. Foolish in fact. I
could make myself a pair of wings and jump off a cliff because Icarus proved
it can be done but it would be real dumb to do so when we already know the
results.


<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/







"Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Gallagher,
>
> You can write heavy duty dealer, membership, etc. solutions using
> ASP/VBScript as well, that can cover the requirements Erin indicated, as
> well as allowing for additional restricted access based on the level or
> position of the user within the organization to areas within the
> restricted area.
>
> --
> ==============================================
> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> ==============================================
> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
> Microsoft Product Support Services:
> http://support.microsoft.com
> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
> ==============================================
>
> "clintonG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I've used ASP to write dealer, membership etc. solutions and the link
>> Rowe provided may be useful for a lightweight solution but again, the
>> ASP.NET Membership System alone is justification for migrating to ASP.NET
>> for those who have comprehensive requirements as you have expressed.
>>
>> ASP.NET requires more programming skill but is way way 'bester' than ASP
>> which is crippleware in comparsion. Briefly, Roles of the Membership
>> system for example support allow or deny access right down to specific
>> elements on a page itself and scale up to the entire section of a site or
>> the entire site itself. For example, Members will see a specific menu but
>> Guests will not. Managers will see certain content but Editors will not.
>> Roles are virtually unlimited.
>>
>> <%= Clinton Gallagher
>> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
>> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
>> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
>> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
>>
>>
>> "Erin Cox-Holmes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Thanks Clinton. I have asp enabled on my site: is there a manual
>>> anywhere on how to implement this? I find the permissions on the FP
>>> subwebs quite frustrating
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Erin Cox-Holmes
>>> "clintonG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>>> message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> The best solution is to use ASP.NET 2.0 Membership, Roles, and Profiles
>>>> but amateurs are usually advised to use FrontPage subwebs which is
>>>> crippleware in comparison.
>>>>
>>>> <%= Clinton Gallagher
>>>> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
>>>> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
>>>> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
>>>> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Erin Cox-Holmes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>I have a FP Web which I update using FP2003, and which is maintained on
>>>>>a Win2003 server.
>>>>>
>>>>> I need to establish part of the site as a "members only" login deal,
>>>>> and am not sure what the current state of the art is for the best way
>>>>> to accomplish this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently I restrict access to particular files by using passworded
>>>>> pdfs, but a I need a more streamlined solution. The purpose of the
>>>>> protected area would be to post member directories (we're a
>>>>> denominational office) and minutes from sensitive committees.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



 
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Kevin Spencer
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      4th Oct 2005
Well, Clinton, there is no doubt in my mind that you are correct regarding
your position on the quality of ASP.Net versus ASP. In fact, I hope I never
have to touch ASP again. However, as a long time FrontPage MVP, I have come
to realize that most FrontPage users are not able to do serious programming,
and often have trouble doing something as simple as ASP (simple to a
professional programmer, at any rate). I therefore often recommend an ASP
solution to them, and tend to avoid recommending ASP.Net on this forum.
ASP.Net is full-court object-oriented compiled programming, and definitely
not for the shade-tree programmer!

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Big things are made up of
lots of little things.

"clintonG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> ASP is lame in comparison and developing a solution anywhere near what can
> be accomplished using ASP.NET 2.0 is not fiscally sound. Foolish in fact.
> I could make myself a pair of wings and jump off a cliff because Icarus
> proved it can be done but it would be real dumb to do so when we already
> know the results.
>
>
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Gallagher,
>>
>> You can write heavy duty dealer, membership, etc. solutions using
>> ASP/VBScript as well, that can cover the requirements Erin indicated, as
>> well as allowing for additional restricted access based on the level or
>> position of the user within the organization to areas within the
>> restricted area.
>>
>> --
>> ==============================================
>> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
>> ==============================================
>> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
>> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
>> Microsoft Product Support Services:
>> http://support.microsoft.com
>> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
>> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
>> ==============================================
>>
>> "clintonG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> I've used ASP to write dealer, membership etc. solutions and the link
>>> Rowe provided may be useful for a lightweight solution but again, the
>>> ASP.NET Membership System alone is justification for migrating to
>>> ASP.NET for those who have comprehensive requirements as you have
>>> expressed.
>>>
>>> ASP.NET requires more programming skill but is way way 'bester' than ASP
>>> which is crippleware in comparsion. Briefly, Roles of the Membership
>>> system for example support allow or deny access right down to specific
>>> elements on a page itself and scale up to the entire section of a site
>>> or the entire site itself. For example, Members will see a specific menu
>>> but Guests will not. Managers will see certain content but Editors will
>>> not. Roles are virtually unlimited.
>>>
>>> <%= Clinton Gallagher
>>> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
>>> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
>>> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
>>> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> "Erin Cox-Holmes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Thanks Clinton. I have asp enabled on my site: is there a manual
>>>> anywhere on how to implement this? I find the permissions on the FP
>>>> subwebs quite frustrating
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Erin Cox-Holmes
>>>> "clintonG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>>>> message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> The best solution is to use ASP.NET 2.0 Membership, Roles, and
>>>>> Profiles but amateurs are usually advised to use FrontPage subwebs
>>>>> which is crippleware in comparison.
>>>>>
>>>>> <%= Clinton Gallagher
>>>>> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
>>>>> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
>>>>> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
>>>>> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Erin Cox-Holmes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>I have a FP Web which I update using FP2003, and which is maintained
>>>>>>on a Win2003 server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I need to establish part of the site as a "members only" login deal,
>>>>>> and am not sure what the current state of the art is for the best way
>>>>>> to accomplish this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently I restrict access to particular files by using passworded
>>>>>> pdfs, but a I need a more streamlined solution. The purpose of the
>>>>>> protected area would be to post member directories (we're a
>>>>>> denominational office) and minutes from sensitive committees.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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>



 
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