hello !

can anyone can tell me what is the better motherboard for a CPU AMD Athlon
XP 2 Go ?

I have an Asus A7V880, and my CPU is recognize as an XP 1.4 Go :-(

Except when I change FSB to 133, but degrees comes to 70 ° when computer
does NOTHING

Thanks for your answers




P.S. : french user

In article <423c5a6f$0$31836$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Le_pucier"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> hello !
>
> can anyone can tell me what is the better motherboard for a CPU AMD Athlon
> XP 2 Go ?
>
> I have an Asus A7V880, and my CPU is recognize as an XP 1.4 Go :-(
>
> Except when I change FSB to 133, but degrees comes to 70 ° when computer
> does NOTHING
>
> Thanks for your answers
>
>
>
>
> P.S. : french user

Is your OVER_VOLT1 jumper set to "disabled" ? It should
be on pins 1-2 of the header. It could be your processor
is getting too much voltage.

Also, which processor are you using ? Here is a list
to choose from.


********
Family Core P.R. Pkg CPU Cache Mult Core Tmax Power
Freq Clk Volts

XP Model 10 2200 (3200+) OPGA 200 512 11x 1.65V 85oC 60.4W
Barton 2100 (3000+) OPGA 200 512 10.5x 1.65V 85oC 53.7W

XP Model 10 2167 (3000+) OPGA 166 512 13x 1.65V 85oC 58.4W
Barton 2083 (2800+) OPGA 166 512 12.5x 1.65V 85oC 53.7W
1917 (2600+) OPGA 166 512 11.5x 1.65V 85oC 53.7W
1833 (2500+) OPGA 166 512 11x 1.65V 85oC 53.7W

XP Model 8 2167 (2700+) OPGA 166 256 13x 1.65V 85oC 62.0W
Thoroughbred 2083 (2600+) OPGA 166 256 12.5x 1.65V 85oC 62.0W

XP Model 8 2133 (2600+) OPGA 133 256 16x 1.65V 85oC 62.0W
Thoroughbred 2000 (2400+) OPGA 133 256 15x 1.65V 85oC 62.0W
CPU ID 0681 1800 (2200+) OPGA 133 256 13.5x 1.60V 85oC 57.0W
1733 (2100+) OPGA 133 256 13x 1.60V 90oC 56.3W
1667 (2000+) OPGA 133 256 12.5x 1.60V 90oC 55.7W
1533 (1800+) OPGA 133 256 11.5x 1.60V 90oC 55.7W
1467 (1700+) OPGA 133 256 11x 1.60V 90oC 55.7W

XP Model 8 1800 (2200+) OPGA 133 256 13.5x 1.65V 85oC 61.7W
Thoroughbred 1733 (2100+) OPGA 133 256 13x 1.60V 90oC 56.4W
CPU ID 0680 1667 (2000+) OPGA 133 256 12.5x 1.65V 90oC 54.7W
1667 (2000+) OPGA 133 256 12.5x 1.60V 90oC 54.7W
1600 (1900+) OPGA 133 256 12x 1.50V 90oC 47.7W
1533 (1800+) OPGA 133 256 11.5x 1.50V 90oC 46.3W
1467 (1700+) OPGA 133 256 11x 1.50V 90oC 44.9W

XP Model 6 1733 (2100+) OPGA 133 256 13x 1.75V 90oC 64.3W
Palomino 1667 (2000+) OPGA 133 256 12.5x 1.75V 90oC 62.5W
1600 (1900+) OPGA 133 256 12x 1.75V 90oC 60.7W
1533 (1800+) OPGA 133 256 11.5x 1.75V 90oC 59.2W
1467 (1700+) OPGA 133 256 11x 1.75V 90oC 57.4W
1400 (1600+) OPGA 133 256 10.5x 1.75V 90oC 56.3W
1333 (1500+) OPGA 133 256 10x 1.75V 90oC 53.8W
********

Paul

Hi !
Thanks for ur answers :-)

references on cpu are :
AMD Athlon
AXDA2000 DUT3C
ATUGA 0237XPAW
1999 AMD

I have read that it was an athlon xp 2 G (works at 1.6667)
*****
"Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> a écrit dans le message de
news:nospam-1903051947050001@192.168.1.178...
> In article <423c5a6f$0$31836$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Le_pucier"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > hello !
> >
> > can anyone can tell me what is the better motherboard for a CPU AMD
Athlon
> > XP 2 Go ?
> >
> > I have an Asus A7V880, and my CPU is recognize as an XP 1.4 Go :-(
> >
> > Except when I change FSB to 133, but degrees comes to 70 ° when computer
> > does NOTHING
> >
> > Thanks for your answers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > P.S. : french user
>
> Is your OVER_VOLT1 jumper set to "disabled" ? It should
> be on pins 1-2 of the header. It could be your processor
> is getting too much voltage.
>
> Also, which processor are you using ? Here is a list
> to choose from.
>
>
> ********
> Family Core P.R. Pkg CPU Cache Mult Core Tmax Power
> Freq Clk Volts
>
> XP Model 10 2200 (3200+) OPGA 200 512 11x 1.65V 85oC 60.4W
> Barton 2100 (3000+) OPGA 200 512 10.5x 1.65V 85oC 53.7W
>
> XP Model 10 2167 (3000+) OPGA 166 512 13x 1.65V 85oC 58.4W
> Barton 2083 (2800+) OPGA 166 512 12.5x 1.65V 85oC 53.7W
> 1917 (2600+) OPGA 166 512 11.5x 1.65V 85oC 53.7W
> 1833 (2500+) OPGA 166 512 11x 1.65V 85oC 53.7W
>
> XP Model 8 2167 (2700+) OPGA 166 256 13x 1.65V 85oC 62.0W
> Thoroughbred 2083 (2600+) OPGA 166 256 12.5x 1.65V 85oC 62.0W
>
> XP Model 8 2133 (2600+) OPGA 133 256 16x 1.65V 85oC 62.0W
> Thoroughbred 2000 (2400+) OPGA 133 256 15x 1.65V 85oC 62.0W
> CPU ID 0681 1800 (2200+) OPGA 133 256 13.5x 1.60V 85oC 57.0W
> 1733 (2100+) OPGA 133 256 13x 1.60V 90oC 56.3W
> 1667 (2000+) OPGA 133 256 12.5x 1.60V 90oC 55.7W
> 1533 (1800+) OPGA 133 256 11.5x 1.60V 90oC 55.7W
> 1467 (1700+) OPGA 133 256 11x 1.60V 90oC 55.7W
>
> XP Model 8 1800 (2200+) OPGA 133 256 13.5x 1.65V 85oC 61.7W
> Thoroughbred 1733 (2100+) OPGA 133 256 13x 1.60V 90oC 56.4W
> CPU ID 0680 1667 (2000+) OPGA 133 256 12.5x 1.65V 90oC 54.7W
> 1667 (2000+) OPGA 133 256 12.5x 1.60V 90oC 54.7W
> 1600 (1900+) OPGA 133 256 12x 1.50V 90oC 47.7W
> 1533 (1800+) OPGA 133 256 11.5x 1.50V 90oC 46.3W
> 1467 (1700+) OPGA 133 256 11x 1.50V 90oC 44.9W
>
> XP Model 6 1733 (2100+) OPGA 133 256 13x 1.75V 90oC 64.3W
> Palomino 1667 (2000+) OPGA 133 256 12.5x 1.75V 90oC 62.5W
> 1600 (1900+) OPGA 133 256 12x 1.75V 90oC 60.7W
> 1533 (1800+) OPGA 133 256 11.5x 1.75V 90oC 59.2W
> 1467 (1700+) OPGA 133 256 11x 1.75V 90oC 57.4W
> 1400 (1600+) OPGA 133 256 10.5x 1.75V 90oC 56.3W
> 1333 (1500+) OPGA 133 256 10x 1.75V 90oC 53.8W
> ********
>
> Paul

In article <423db29b$0$22846$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Le_pucier"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Hi !
> Thanks for ur answers :-)
>
> references on cpu are :
> AMD Athlon
> AXDA2000 DUT3C
> ATUGA 0237XPAW
> 1999 AMD
>
> I have read that it was an athlon xp 2 G (works at 1.6667)
> *****

AXDA2000DUT3C
http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.p...hreadid=170363

AXDA2000DUT3C 1.67Ghz Multiplier= 12.5x ==> 133MHz clock

See also PDF page 91 of this document - Vcore is 1.60V
Make sure the OVER_VOLT1 jumper is disabled.
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...docs/25175.pdf

Do you have some thermal paste between the CPU and
the heatsink ?

Three things make the processor hot. Too much voltage.
Too much frequency (by accident). Not enough contact
between the CPU and the heatsink/fan. Those
are the things I would check.

Verify that the heatsink is properly installed. If the
heatsink is rotated 180 degrees, the contact patch on the
bottom of the heatsink will not touch all of the silicon
die on the processor.

Has the processor been modified, by making changes to
the "bridges" on the top of the processor ?

Paul

> "Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> a écrit dans le message de
> news:nospam-1903051947050001@192.168.1.178...
> > In article <423c5a6f$0$31836$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Le_pucier"
> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> > > hello !
> > >
> > > can anyone can tell me what is the better motherboard for a CPU AMD
> Athlon
> > > XP 2 Go ?
> > >
> > > I have an Asus A7V880, and my CPU is recognize as an XP 1.4 Go :-(
> > >
> > > Except when I change FSB to 133, but degrees comes to 70 ° when computer
> > > does NOTHING
> > >
> > > Thanks for your answers
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > P.S. : french user
> >
> > Is your OVER_VOLT1 jumper set to "disabled" ? It should
> > be on pins 1-2 of the header. It could be your processor
> > is getting too much voltage.
> >
> > Also, which processor are you using ? Here is a list
> > to choose from.

hello !
when I use ASUS Probe to see degrees in computer, I note that Vcore show :
1,648 v !!!! so like you write I will put it at 1.6 V only. What do you
think of that ?
***
"Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> a écrit dans le message de
news:nospam-2003052146050001@192.168.1.178...
> In article <423db29b$0$22846$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Le_pucier"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > Hi !
> > Thanks for ur answers :-)
> >
> > references on cpu are :
> > AMD Athlon
> > AXDA2000 DUT3C
> > ATUGA 0237XPAW
> > 1999 AMD
> >
> > I have read that it was an athlon xp 2 G (works at 1.6667)
> > *****
>
> AXDA2000DUT3C
> http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.p...hreadid=170363
>
> AXDA2000DUT3C 1.67Ghz Multiplier= 12.5x ==> 133MHz clock
>
> See also PDF page 91 of this document - Vcore is 1.60V
> Make sure the OVER_VOLT1 jumper is disabled.
>
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...docs/25175.pdf
>
> Do you have some thermal paste between the CPU and
> the heatsink ?
>
> Three things make the processor hot. Too much voltage.
> Too much frequency (by accident). Not enough contact
> between the CPU and the heatsink/fan. Those
> are the things I would check.
>
> Verify that the heatsink is properly installed. If the
> heatsink is rotated 180 degrees, the contact patch on the
> bottom of the heatsink will not touch all of the silicon
> die on the processor.
>
> Has the processor been modified, by making changes to
> the "bridges" on the top of the processor ?
>
> Paul
>
> > "Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> a écrit dans le message de
> > news:nospam-1903051947050001@192.168.1.178...
> > > In article <423c5a6f$0$31836$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Le_pucier"
> > > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > >
> > > > hello !
> > > >
> > > > can anyone can tell me what is the better motherboard for a CPU AMD
> > Athlon
> > > > XP 2 Go ?
> > > >
> > > > I have an Asus A7V880, and my CPU is recognize as an XP 1.4 Go :-(
> > > >
> > > > Except when I change FSB to 133, but degrees comes to 70 ° when
computer
> > > > does NOTHING
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your answers
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > P.S. : french user
> > >
> > > Is your OVER_VOLT1 jumper set to "disabled" ? It should
> > > be on pins 1-2 of the header. It could be your processor
> > > is getting too much voltage.
> > >
> > > Also, which processor are you using ? Here is a list
> > > to choose from.

>
> > Hi !
> > Thanks for ur answers :-)
> >
> > references on cpu are :
> > AMD Athlon
> > AXDA2000 DUT3C
> > ATUGA 0237XPAW
> > 1999 AMD
> >
> > I have read that it was an athlon xp 2 G (works at 1.6667)
> > *****
>
> AXDA2000DUT3C
> http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.p...hreadid=170363
>
> AXDA2000DUT3C 1.67Ghz Multiplier= 12.5x ==> 133MHz clock
>
> See also PDF page 91 of this document - Vcore is 1.60V
**** In Asus a7v880, voltage is 1.65 and more :-( ***

> Make sure the OVER_VOLT1 jumper is disabled.
***** this jumper is disabled ! ****
>
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...docs/25175.pdf
>
> Do you have some thermal paste between the CPU and
> the heatsink ?
***** I will soon change thermal paste and replace fan with model HHC l61 of
cooler master ******
>
> Three things make the processor hot. Too much voltage.
> Too much frequency (by accident). Not enough contact
> between the CPU and the heatsink/fan. Those
> are the things I would check.
>
> Verify that the heatsink is properly installed. If the
> heatsink is rotated 180 degrees, the contact patch on the
> bottom of the heatsink will not touch all of the silicon
> die on the processor.
****** OK I notice this *******
> Has the processor been modified, by making changes to
> the "bridges" on the top of the processor ?
***** No ******
> Paul
>
> > "Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> a écrit dans le message de
> > news:nospam-1903051947050001@192.168.1.178...
> > > In article <423c5a6f$0$31836$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Le_pucier"
> > > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > >
> > > > hello !
> > > >
> > > > can anyone can tell me what is the better motherboard for a CPU AMD
> > Athlon
> > > > XP 2 Go ?
> > > >
> > > > I have an Asus A7V880, and my CPU is recognize as an XP 1.4 Go :-(
> > > >
> > > > Except when I change FSB to 133, but degrees comes to 70 ° when
computer
> > > > does NOTHING
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your answers
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > P.S. : french user
> > >
> > > Is your OVER_VOLT1 jumper set to "disabled" ? It should
> > > be on pins 1-2 of the header. It could be your processor
> > > is getting too much voltage.
> > >
> > > Also, which processor are you using ? Here is a list
> > > to choose from.

In article <423eccb7$0$31681$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Le_pucier"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> hello !
> when I use ASUS Probe to see degrees in computer, I note that Vcore show :
> 1,648 v !!!! so like you write I will put it at 1.6 V only. What do you
> think of that ?

That is normal for an Asus Vcore regulator. They are usually
0.050V too high. But, when the processor is working hard, the
voltage will drop. You do not need to adjust it, and can leave
it set to 1.6V.

Does the motherboard shut down when the CPU is working hard ?
Can you run Prime95 "torture test" (mersenne.org) without
the motherboard shutting down ?

Are you using Asus Probe while in Windows ? Download the
latest version from the Asus download page and see if the
readings are more realistic.

Get Asus Probe from here (probe22304.zip). Uninstall MBM5
before using Asus Probe.

http://france.asus.com/support/downl...Tools&Type=All

Hope that helps,
Paul

Hi !
I think I have found the solution :

First I have put two cooler on each side of a heat sink
Then the heat sink on the CPU was put in wrong way, so I put it rigt way
And now here are the data :
CPU : 45 °
Motherboard : 35
Hard Drive : 37

Before it was
CPU: 65
Motherboard : 35
Hard drive : 47

I use two softwares :
Cpu idle 95
and
Asus Probe (release of 2004)

When I look in BIOS, CPU voltage is under 1.6 v ; but in Probe it is : 1.648
There is no system to reduce voltage for this motherboard under 1.65 V, so I
have decide to buy an XP 3200 which works at 1.65 V.

My PC sometimes stop working with no reason except perhaps because it works
too hot ! I do not want to burn my cpu :-(
********

"Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> a écrit dans le message de
news:nospam-2503052222370001@192.168.1.178...
> In article <423eccb7$0$31681$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Le_pucier"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > hello !
> > when I use ASUS Probe to see degrees in computer, I note that Vcore show
:
> > 1,648 v !!!! so like you write I will put it at 1.6 V only. What do you
> > think of that ?
>
> That is normal for an Asus Vcore regulator. They are usually
> 0.050V too high. But, when the processor is working hard, the
> voltage will drop. You do not need to adjust it, and can leave
> it set to 1.6V.
>
> Does the motherboard shut down when the CPU is working hard ?
> Can you run Prime95 "torture test" (mersenne.org) without
> the motherboard shutting down ?
>
> Are you using Asus Probe while in Windows ? Download the
> latest version from the Asus download page and see if the
> readings are more realistic.
>
> Get Asus Probe from here (probe22304.zip). Uninstall MBM5
> before using Asus Probe.
>
> http://france.asus.com/support/downl...Tools&Type=All
>
> Hope that helps,
> Paul

In article <424581f6$0$1546$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Le_pucier"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Hi !
> I think I have found the solution :
>
> First I have put two cooler on each side of a heat sink
> Then the heat sink on the CPU was put in wrong way, so I put it rigt way
> And now here are the data :
> CPU : 45 °
> Motherboard : 35
> Hard Drive : 37
>
> Before it was
> CPU: 65
> Motherboard : 35
> Hard drive : 47
>
> I use two softwares :
> Cpu idle 95
> and
> Asus Probe (release of 2004)
>
> When I look in BIOS, CPU voltage is under 1.6 v ; but in Probe it is : 1.648
> There is no system to reduce voltage for this motherboard under 1.65 V, so I
> have decide to buy an XP 3200 which works at 1.65 V.
>
> My PC sometimes stop working with no reason except perhaps because it works
> too hot ! I do not want to burn my cpu :-(

So, the solution in fact, was placing the heatsink in the correct
orientation. If the heatsink is put on the wrong way, the silicon
die overheats, and the motherboard will shut down. Now that the
heatsink is correctly oriented, you may only need one cooler on
the processor heatsink.

As for the voltage, if you download the datasheet for an AMD
processor, the allowed voltage is 1.6 +/- 0.050, so the voltage
can be 1.55 to 1.65. Your 1.648 just meets this specification,
and so there is no reason to buy another processor (unless you
want to go faster). In addition, the specification says that
the absolute maximum voltage is another 0.50V on top of that.
That means the voltage can rise to at least 2.1 or so volts,
before destruction results, which is certainly a long way
from 1.648V. Don't panic :-)

For example, look at PDF page 34 of this document. Extract the
VCC_core. It is 1.60V . Next, visit PDF page 46 and see
VCC_core_DC_max. It is +0.050V. The nominal value is 1.60+0.05=1.65V
Next, go to PDF page 48. It allows VCC_core_max plus +0.50V,
or a total of 2.15V, before destruction occurs.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...docs/25175.pdf

If you were to apply 2.1V, the processor would likely overheat
and shut down, long before you could get any useful work done.
Just be happy with the 1.648V :-)

Paul

Hello !

With this motherboard (A7v880) and CPU overheat protect, CPU can not go over
70° when I write DVD video :-(
When I look in documentation it says that CPU run from 80-90°, and the
motherboard crash at 75° max !!

I can not do anything for that :-(

With my two coolers, I have reduce degrees by 20. And when there is 30-35°
outside, I must run a third cooler in my mid tower (aqua cool) to go to 65°.

Perhaps voltage can go to 1.65, but why motherboard can not go to this
number by default ? When I let it by default I only can choose from 1.65 to
1.95. I have understand for 0.05 too.

In fact this motherboard is only for CPU which work at 1.65 V and over. All
cpu are recognized but not mine, why ? because it is not work at right
voltage :-(
*****
"Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> a écrit dans le message de
news:nospam-2603051318040001@192.168.1.178...
> In article <424581f6$0$1546$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Le_pucier"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > Hi !
> > I think I have found the solution :
> >
> > First I have put two cooler on each side of a heat sink
> > Then the heat sink on the CPU was put in wrong way, so I put it rigt way
> > And now here are the data :
> > CPU : 45 °
> > Motherboard : 35
> > Hard Drive : 37
> >
> > Before it was
> > CPU: 65
> > Motherboard : 35
> > Hard drive : 47
> >
> > I use two softwares :
> > Cpu idle 95
> > and
> > Asus Probe (release of 2004)
> >
> > When I look in BIOS, CPU voltage is under 1.6 v ; but in Probe it is :
1.648
> > There is no system to reduce voltage for this motherboard under 1.65 V,
so I
> > have decide to buy an XP 3200 which works at 1.65 V.
> >
> > My PC sometimes stop working with no reason except perhaps because it
works
> > too hot ! I do not want to burn my cpu :-(
>
> So, the solution in fact, was placing the heatsink in the correct
> orientation. If the heatsink is put on the wrong way, the silicon
> die overheats, and the motherboard will shut down. Now that the
> heatsink is correctly oriented, you may only need one cooler on
> the processor heatsink.
>
> As for the voltage, if you download the datasheet for an AMD
> processor, the allowed voltage is 1.6 +/- 0.050, so the voltage
> can be 1.55 to 1.65. Your 1.648 just meets this specification,
> and so there is no reason to buy another processor (unless you
> want to go faster). In addition, the specification says that
> the absolute maximum voltage is another 0.50V on top of that.
> That means the voltage can rise to at least 2.1 or so volts,
> before destruction results, which is certainly a long way
> from 1.648V. Don't panic :-)
>
> For example, look at PDF page 34 of this document. Extract the
> VCC_core. It is 1.60V . Next, visit PDF page 46 and see
> VCC_core_DC_max. It is +0.050V. The nominal value is 1.60+0.05=1.65V
> Next, go to PDF page 48. It allows VCC_core_max plus +0.50V,
> or a total of 2.15V, before destruction occurs.
>
>
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...docs/25175.pdf
>
> If you were to apply 2.1V, the processor would likely overheat
> and shut down, long before you could get any useful work done.
> Just be happy with the 1.648V :-)
>
> Paul