I'm putting together a website for Rugby fans and, not being
particularly artistically inclined, I'd like to use a content
management package. I have some experience of Joomla and Mambo, but
both have issues in hosted environments.

Can anyone recommend a package that will allow me to present a magazine
style website, with regular (monthly at least) updates? Things like
forums, downloads and the like are of no consequence - what I want to
present are nicely formatted pages of text and photographs, which can
be updated frequently.

Thanks

Martyn

why dont you skip the whole site concept then and go with Blogs? I have
seen some very interesting setups people are making with blogs...


"Martyn W" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm putting together a website for Rugby fans and, not being
> particularly artistically inclined, I'd like to use a content
> management package. I have some experience of Joomla and Mambo, but
> both have issues in hosted environments.
>
> Can anyone recommend a package that will allow me to present a magazine
> style website, with regular (monthly at least) updates? Things like
> forums, downloads and the like are of no consequence - what I want to
> present are nicely formatted pages of text and photographs, which can
> be updated frequently.
>
> Thanks
>
> Martyn
>

Martyn W wrote:
> I'm putting together a website for Rugby fans and, not being
> particularly artistically inclined, I'd like to use a content
> management package. I have some experience of Joomla and Mambo, but
> both have issues in hosted environments.

Martyn;

What are the "hosted environment issues?" Are you talking about
safe-mode for shared directories? Or some other technical issue?

tia,
-Craig

Craig wrote:

> Martyn W wrote:
> > I'm putting together a website for Rugby fans and, not being
> > particularly artistically inclined, I'd like to use a content
> > management package. I have some experience of Joomla and Mambo, but
> > both have issues in hosted environments.
>
> Martyn;
>
> What are the "hosted environment issues?" Are you talking about
> safe-mode for shared directories? Or some other technical issue?
>
> tia,
> -Craig

I should have said "shared hosted environment".

My experience is with these two is that not long after installing them
they start having problems clearing sessions, so it becomes virtually
impossible to remain logged in as the administrator for any length of
time, thus preventing any effective work with the site. This has only
ever occured in a shared hosted environment - but not all providers
experience this problem. I have never had the problem when I'm hosting
the website myself. I cannot, unfortunately, afford the necessary
bandwidth to host this particular site myself, otherwise I would do so.

I've tried tracking down a resolution to the problem - which would be
ideal because I love both packages - but I've yet to be successful. I
have come across a lot of people who have shared the problem, but
no-one who has come up with an answer - other than to make the session
path writeable, something my hosting company (Lycos) says is not
possible in a shared environment.

I did play with blogs for a while, but I was dissatisfied with the way
things are presented. I want to achieve a magazine style format, with
clear boundaries between issues, this is something blogs don't lend
themselves to.

Martyn

John Jay Smith wrote:

> why dont you skip the whole site concept then and go with Blogs? I have
> seen some very interesting setups people are making with blogs...
>
>
> "Martyn W" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I'm putting together a website for Rugby fans and, not being
> > particularly artistically inclined, I'd like to use a content
> > management package. I have some experience of Joomla and Mambo, but
> > both have issues in hosted environments.
> >
> > Can anyone recommend a package that will allow me to present a magazine
> > style website, with regular (monthly at least) updates? Things like
> > forums, downloads and the like are of no consequence - what I want to
> > present are nicely formatted pages of text and photographs, which can
> > be updated frequently.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Martyn
> >

Martyn W wrote:

> Craig wrote:
>
>
>>Martyn W wrote:
>>
>>>I'm putting together a website for Rugby fans and, not being
>>>particularly artistically inclined, I'd like to use a content
>>>management package. I have some experience of Joomla and Mambo, but
>>>both have issues in hosted environments.
>>
>>Martyn;
>>
>>What are the "hosted environment issues?" Are you talking about
>>safe-mode for shared directories? Or some other technical issue?
>>
>>tia,
>>-Craig
>
>
> I should have said "shared hosted environment".
>
> My experience is with these two is that not long after installing them
> they start having problems clearing sessions, so it becomes virtually
> impossible to remain logged in as the administrator for any length of
> time, thus preventing any effective work with the site. This has only
> ever occured in a shared hosted environment - but not all providers
> experience this problem....
>
> I've tried tracking down a resolution to the problem...

I'm considering the same two CMS. My isp uses the dreaded shared hosted
environment too. They have a small number of Mambo users...no
complaints wrt the problem you describe. Could it be the OS? (My ISP
uses BSD)

Anyway, if you find a solution to the joomla/mambo-on-shared problem or
find another package to use, please let us know.

regards,
-Craig

Craig wrote:
> Martyn W wrote:
>
> > Craig wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Martyn W wrote:
> >>
> >>>I'm putting together a website for Rugby fans and, not being
> >>>particularly artistically inclined, I'd like to use a content
> >>>management package. I have some experience of Joomla and Mambo, but
> >>>both have issues in hosted environments.
> >>
> >>Martyn;
> >>
> >>What are the "hosted environment issues?" Are you talking about
> >>safe-mode for shared directories? Or some other technical issue?
> >>
> >>tia,
> >>-Craig
> >
> >
> > I should have said "shared hosted environment".
> >
> > My experience is with these two is that not long after installing them
> > they start having problems clearing sessions, so it becomes virtually
> > impossible to remain logged in as the administrator for any length of
> > time, thus preventing any effective work with the site. This has only
> > ever occured in a shared hosted environment - but not all providers
> > experience this problem....
> >
> > I've tried tracking down a resolution to the problem...
>
> I'm considering the same two CMS. My isp uses the dreaded shared hosted
> environment too. They have a small number of Mambo users...no
> complaints wrt the problem you describe. Could it be the OS? (My ISP
> uses BSD)
>
> Anyway, if you find a solution to the joomla/mambo-on-shared problem or
> find another package to use, please let us know.
>

My host is Lycos - and they've been remarkably unco-operative. In fact,
I'd go so far as to say that they've been bloody minded, unhelpful,
pathetic, lying toe-rags. They use Linux BTW.

Last time I checked you can do anything with blogs..
since you can edit and customize the templates - html


"Martyn W" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I did play with blogs for a while, but I was dissatisfied with the way
> things are presented. I want to achieve a magazine style format, with
> clear boundaries between issues, this is something blogs don't lend
> themselves to.
>
> Martyn
>
> John Jay Smith wrote:
>
>> why dont you skip the whole site concept then and go with Blogs? I have
>> seen some very interesting setups people are making with blogs...
>>
>>
>> "Martyn W" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > I'm putting together a website for Rugby fans and, not being
>> > particularly artistically inclined, I'd like to use a content
>> > management package. I have some experience of Joomla and Mambo, but
>> > both have issues in hosted environments.
>> >
>> > Can anyone recommend a package that will allow me to present a magazine
>> > style website, with regular (monthly at least) updates? Things like
>> > forums, downloads and the like are of no consequence - what I want to
>> > present are nicely formatted pages of text and photographs, which can
>> > be updated frequently.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Martyn
>> >
>

John Jay Smith wrote:
> Last time I checked you can do anything with blogs..
> since you can edit and customize the templates - html

Yes, I'm sure you can. As I said at the outset, I couldn't design my
way out of a paperbag.

Martyn W wrote:

>John Jay Smith wrote:
>
>
>>Last time I checked you can do anything with blogs..
>>since you can edit and customize the templates - html
>>
>>
>
>Yes, I'm sure you can. As I said at the outset, I couldn't design my
>way out of a paperbag.
>
>
>
Wikis work well. The design is done for you. All you have to do is
post. Most take attachments. For a free, hosted, solution
search Google for "Wiki Farm"

WWW.pbwiki.com is great. My personal choice is Schtuff.com, why you can
post by sending an email to the wiki.

Wiki's are NOT CMS is the strictest sense, in that they usually don't
have authorization levels, version control, workflow etc.
If you are looking for an easy way to share info on the web,. go for it.

John H.
www.jhoodsoft.org
Business Free Software.