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How best can I control my web so a user sees "something" quickly?

 
 
Dan E
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      1st Jul 2006
I have a couple of webs (see www.preferredcountry.com for example), and they
both load (on occasion) fairly slowly - 30 seconds or more when the web is
busy, even though I'm on a "server priority" developer shared hosting plan.
FP 2003 tells me that the home page should take about 30 seconds at 56 kbps,
but I'm seeing 30 seconds with DSL. I seem to remember there's a way to set
the order of loading elements (or something), so that the user sees that
something is loading, and doesn't get fed up that nothing is visible and
goes elsewhere; for the life of me I can't find even a hint of doing this in
the FP 2003 Help system. I know I need to reduce the size of some of my
grahics files, but none of them are what you'd call big now.

Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated and acknowledged.

TIA

Dan
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Tom Willett
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      1st Jul 2006
Your load time has to do with all the images at the bottom that you have
linked to external sites.
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FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
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"Dan E" <webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have a couple of webs (see www.preferredcountry.com for example), and
>they both load (on occasion) fairly slowly - 30 seconds or more when the
>web is busy, even though I'm on a "server priority" developer shared
>hosting plan. FP 2003 tells me that the home page should take about 30
>seconds at 56 kbps, but I'm seeing 30 seconds with DSL. I seem to remember
>there's a way to set the order of loading elements (or something), so that
>the user sees that something is loading, and doesn't get fed up that
>nothing is visible and goes elsewhere; for the life of me I can't find even
>a hint of doing this in the FP 2003 Help system. I know I need to reduce
>the size of some of my grahics files, but none of them are what you'd call
>big now.
>
> Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated and acknowledged.
>
> TIA
>
> Dan
> --
> Dan E
> webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com
>



 
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Dan E
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      1st Jul 2006
Thanks, Tom - I'll check it out.

Dan
"Tom Willett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Your load time has to do with all the images at the bottom that you have
> linked to external sites.
> --
> Tom Willett
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
> ----------
> "Dan E" <webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I have a couple of webs (see www.preferredcountry.com for example), and
>>they both load (on occasion) fairly slowly - 30 seconds or more when the
>>web is busy, even though I'm on a "server priority" developer shared
>>hosting plan. FP 2003 tells me that the home page should take about 30
>>seconds at 56 kbps, but I'm seeing 30 seconds with DSL. I seem to
>>remember there's a way to set the order of loading elements (or
>>something), so that the user sees that something is loading, and doesn't
>>get fed up that nothing is visible and goes elsewhere; for the life of me
>>I can't find even a hint of doing this in the FP 2003 Help system. I know
>>I need to reduce the size of some of my grahics files, but none of them
>>are what you'd call big now.
>>
>> Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated and acknowledged.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Dan
>> --
>> Dan E
>> webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com
>>

>
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PCTEK
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      1st Jul 2006
It looks like the culprit is "mplogbut.gif". It tries for several seconds
to load this image at the bottom of your page and ends up failing to load.
I think if you fix it the rest will load just fine - doesn't look like there
any big file sizes among your images.

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Paul Robinson
Abacus Computer Consultants


"Dan E" <webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks, Tom - I'll check it out.
>
> Dan
> "Tom Willett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:eHj%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Your load time has to do with all the images at the bottom that you have
>> linked to external sites.
>> --
>> Tom Willett
>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>> ----------
>> "Dan E" <webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>I have a couple of webs (see www.preferredcountry.com for example), and
>>>they both load (on occasion) fairly slowly - 30 seconds or more when the
>>>web is busy, even though I'm on a "server priority" developer shared
>>>hosting plan. FP 2003 tells me that the home page should take about 30
>>>seconds at 56 kbps, but I'm seeing 30 seconds with DSL. I seem to
>>>remember there's a way to set the order of loading elements (or
>>>something), so that the user sees that something is loading, and doesn't
>>>get fed up that nothing is visible and goes elsewhere; for the life of me
>>>I can't find even a hint of doing this in the FP 2003 Help system. I know
>>>I need to reduce the size of some of my grahics files, but none of them
>>>are what you'd call big now.
>>>
>>> Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated and acknowledged.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Dan
>>> --
>>> Dan E
>>> webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com
>>>

>>
>>

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Tom Willett
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      1st Jul 2006
Since all of the images on the bottom are pulled from external sites, the
page will take some time to completely load. However, I agree about
mplogbut.gif...it can't find the image.

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Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------
"PCTEK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:vJypg.2529$Uy3.1238@trnddc04...
> It looks like the culprit is "mplogbut.gif". It tries for several seconds
> to load this image at the bottom of your page and ends up failing to load.
> I think if you fix it the rest will load just fine - doesn't look like
> there any big file sizes among your images.
>
> --
>
> Paul Robinson
> Abacus Computer Consultants
>
>
> "Dan E" <webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thanks, Tom - I'll check it out.
>>
>> Dan
>> "Tom Willett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:eHj%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Your load time has to do with all the images at the bottom that you have
>>> linked to external sites.
>>> --
>>> Tom Willett
>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>>> ----------
>>> "Dan E" <webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>I have a couple of webs (see www.preferredcountry.com for example), and
>>>>they both load (on occasion) fairly slowly - 30 seconds or more when the
>>>>web is busy, even though I'm on a "server priority" developer shared
>>>>hosting plan. FP 2003 tells me that the home page should take about 30
>>>>seconds at 56 kbps, but I'm seeing 30 seconds with DSL. I seem to
>>>>remember there's a way to set the order of loading elements (or
>>>>something), so that the user sees that something is loading, and doesn't
>>>>get fed up that nothing is visible and goes elsewhere; for the life of
>>>>me I can't find even a hint of doing this in the FP 2003 Help system. I
>>>>know I need to reduce the size of some of my grahics files, but none of
>>>>them are what you'd call big now.
>>>>
>>>> Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated and acknowledged.
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>> --
>>>> Dan E
>>>> webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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>



 
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Dan E
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      1st Jul 2006
Many thanks, Paul - yeah - it's a dead link - I should have noticed that.
How could you see that it tried for several seconds to load that particular
image? Some trick I might find useful? :-)

Thanks again,

Dan
"PCTEK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:vJypg.2529$Uy3.1238@trnddc04...
> It looks like the culprit is "mplogbut.gif". It tries for several seconds
> to load this image at the bottom of your page and ends up failing to load.
> I think if you fix it the rest will load just fine - doesn't look like
> there any big file sizes among your images.
>
> --
>
> Paul Robinson
> Abacus Computer Consultants
>
>
> "Dan E" <webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thanks, Tom - I'll check it out.
>>
>> Dan
>> "Tom Willett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:eHj%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Your load time has to do with all the images at the bottom that you have
>>> linked to external sites.
>>> --
>>> Tom Willett
>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>>> ----------
>>> "Dan E" <webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>I have a couple of webs (see www.preferredcountry.com for example), and
>>>>they both load (on occasion) fairly slowly - 30 seconds or more when the
>>>>web is busy, even though I'm on a "server priority" developer shared
>>>>hosting plan. FP 2003 tells me that the home page should take about 30
>>>>seconds at 56 kbps, but I'm seeing 30 seconds with DSL. I seem to
>>>>remember there's a way to set the order of loading elements (or
>>>>something), so that the user sees that something is loading, and doesn't
>>>>get fed up that nothing is visible and goes elsewhere; for the life of
>>>>me I can't find even a hint of doing this in the FP 2003 Help system. I
>>>>know I need to reduce the size of some of my grahics files, but none of
>>>>them are what you'd call big now.
>>>>
>>>> Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated and acknowledged.
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>> --
>>>> Dan E
>>>> webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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>



 
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Dan E
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      1st Jul 2006
Thanks, Tom. I'm pulling that dead link, and will use local copies of the
link images.

Thanks again,

Dan
"Tom Willett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Since all of the images on the bottom are pulled from external sites, the
> page will take some time to completely load. However, I agree about
> mplogbut.gif...it can't find the image.
>
> --
> Tom Willett
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
> ----------
> "PCTEK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:vJypg.2529$Uy3.1238@trnddc04...
>> It looks like the culprit is "mplogbut.gif". It tries for several
>> seconds to load this image at the bottom of your page and ends up failing
>> to load. I think if you fix it the rest will load just fine - doesn't
>> look like there any big file sizes among your images.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Paul Robinson
>> Abacus Computer Consultants
>>
>>
>> "Dan E" <webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Thanks, Tom - I'll check it out.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>> "Tom Willett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:eHj%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Your load time has to do with all the images at the bottom that you
>>>> have linked to external sites.
>>>> --
>>>> Tom Willett
>>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>>> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>>>> ----------
>>>> "Dan E" <webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>I have a couple of webs (see www.preferredcountry.com for example), and
>>>>>they both load (on occasion) fairly slowly - 30 seconds or more when
>>>>>the web is busy, even though I'm on a "server priority" developer
>>>>>shared hosting plan. FP 2003 tells me that the home page should take
>>>>>about 30 seconds at 56 kbps, but I'm seeing 30 seconds with DSL. I
>>>>>seem to remember there's a way to set the order of loading elements (or
>>>>>something), so that the user sees that something is loading, and
>>>>>doesn't get fed up that nothing is visible and goes elsewhere; for the
>>>>>life of me I can't find even a hint of doing this in the FP 2003 Help
>>>>>system. I know I need to reduce the size of some of my grahics files,
>>>>>but none of them are what you'd call big now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated and acknowledged.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dan E
>>>>> webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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>



 
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Steve Easton
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      1st Jul 2006
If you have IE set to display the status bar, you'll see that the progress bar never
completes.

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Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm


"Dan E" <webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Many thanks, Paul - yeah - it's a dead link - I should have noticed that. How could you
> see that it tried for several seconds to load that particular image? Some trick I might
> find useful? :-)
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Dan
> "PCTEK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:vJypg.2529$Uy3.1238@trnddc04...
>> It looks like the culprit is "mplogbut.gif". It tries for several seconds to load this
>> image at the bottom of your page and ends up failing to load. I think if you fix it the
>> rest will load just fine - doesn't look like there any big file sizes among your
>> images.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Paul Robinson
>> Abacus Computer Consultants
>>
>>
>> "Dan E" <webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Thanks, Tom - I'll check it out.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>> "Tom Willett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:eHj%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Your load time has to do with all the images at the bottom that you have linked to
>>>> external sites.
>>>> --
>>>> Tom Willett
>>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>>> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>>>> ----------
>>>> "Dan E" <webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>I have a couple of webs (see www.preferredcountry.com for example), and they both
>>>>>load (on occasion) fairly slowly - 30 seconds or more when the web is busy, even
>>>>>though I'm on a "server priority" developer shared hosting plan. FP 2003 tells me
>>>>>that the home page should take about 30 seconds at 56 kbps, but I'm seeing 30 seconds
>>>>>with DSL. I seem to remember there's a way to set the order of loading elements (or
>>>>>something), so that the user sees that something is loading, and doesn't get fed up
>>>>>that nothing is visible and goes elsewhere; for the life of me I can't find even a
>>>>>hint of doing this in the FP 2003 Help system. I know I need to reduce the size of
>>>>>some of my grahics files, but none of them are what you'd call big now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated and acknowledged.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dan E
>>>>> webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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Tom Willett
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      1st Jul 2006
Ah, local copies of the link images. I was going to suggest that, so glad
you thought about it. Will make a lot of difference, since your page won't
be going to other sites to download them.

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Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------
"Dan E" <webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks, Tom. I'm pulling that dead link, and will use local copies of the
> link images.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Dan
> "Tom Willett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Since all of the images on the bottom are pulled from external sites, the
>> page will take some time to completely load. However, I agree about
>> mplogbut.gif...it can't find the image.
>>
>> --
>> Tom Willett
>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>> ----------
>> "PCTEK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:vJypg.2529$Uy3.1238@trnddc04...
>>> It looks like the culprit is "mplogbut.gif". It tries for several
>>> seconds to load this image at the bottom of your page and ends up
>>> failing to load. I think if you fix it the rest will load just fine -
>>> doesn't look like there any big file sizes among your images.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Paul Robinson
>>> Abacus Computer Consultants
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dan E" <webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Thanks, Tom - I'll check it out.
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>> "Tom Willett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:eHj%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> Your load time has to do with all the images at the bottom that you
>>>>> have linked to external sites.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Tom Willett
>>>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>>>> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>>>>> ----------
>>>>> "Dan E" <webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>I have a couple of webs (see www.preferredcountry.com for example),
>>>>>>and they both load (on occasion) fairly slowly - 30 seconds or more
>>>>>>when the web is busy, even though I'm on a "server priority" developer
>>>>>>shared hosting plan. FP 2003 tells me that the home page should take
>>>>>>about 30 seconds at 56 kbps, but I'm seeing 30 seconds with DSL. I
>>>>>>seem to remember there's a way to set the order of loading elements
>>>>>>(or something), so that the user sees that something is loading, and
>>>>>>doesn't get fed up that nothing is visible and goes elsewhere; for the
>>>>>>life of me I can't find even a hint of doing this in the FP 2003 Help
>>>>>>system. I know I need to reduce the size of some of my grahics files,
>>>>>>but none of them are what you'd call big now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated and acknowledged.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dan E
>>>>>> webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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Dan E
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      1st Jul 2006
Got it! Thanks, Steve.

Dan
"Steve Easton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> If you have IE set to display the status bar, you'll see that the progress
> bar never completes.
>
> --
> Steve Easton
> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> FP Cleaner
> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
> Hit Me FP
> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
>
>
> "Dan E" <webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Many thanks, Paul - yeah - it's a dead link - I should have noticed that.
>> How could you see that it tried for several seconds to load that
>> particular image? Some trick I might find useful? :-)
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Dan
>> "PCTEK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:vJypg.2529$Uy3.1238@trnddc04...
>>> It looks like the culprit is "mplogbut.gif". It tries for several
>>> seconds to load this image at the bottom of your page and ends up
>>> failing to load. I think if you fix it the rest will load just fine -
>>> doesn't look like there any big file sizes among your images.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Paul Robinson
>>> Abacus Computer Consultants
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dan E" <webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Thanks, Tom - I'll check it out.
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>> "Tom Willett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:eHj%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> Your load time has to do with all the images at the bottom that you
>>>>> have linked to external sites.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Tom Willett
>>>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>>>> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>>>>> ----------
>>>>> "Dan E" <webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>I have a couple of webs (see www.preferredcountry.com for example),
>>>>>>and they both load (on occasion) fairly slowly - 30 seconds or more
>>>>>>when the web is busy, even though I'm on a "server priority" developer
>>>>>>shared hosting plan. FP 2003 tells me that the home page should take
>>>>>>about 30 seconds at 56 kbps, but I'm seeing 30 seconds with DSL. I
>>>>>>seem to remember there's a way to set the order of loading elements
>>>>>>(or something), so that the user sees that something is loading, and
>>>>>>doesn't get fed up that nothing is visible and goes elsewhere; for the
>>>>>>life of me I can't find even a hint of doing this in the FP 2003 Help
>>>>>>system. I know I need to reduce the size of some of my grahics files,
>>>>>>but none of them are what you'd call big now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated and acknowledged.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dan E
>>>>>> webbie(removethis)@preferredcountry.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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