Can someone tell me how to do this? I want to simply run it to delete the
..bak files (using del *.bak) produced every time I compact the OE folders,
instead of having to do this manually each time (by selecting them each time
in the recycle bin, which is a hassle).

I know how to write the batch file, but the Recycle folder is a system
folder, and is apparently locked down so I can't ever get it to work. And
trying to remove the system attribute on the Recycler/Recyled folder doesn't
seem to work either (nor is it probably a good idea).

"Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Can someone tell me how to do this? I want to simply run it to delete
> the .bak files (using del *.bak) produced every time I compact the OE
> folders, instead of having to do this manually each time (by selecting
> them each time in the recycle bin, which is a hassle).
>
> I know how to write the batch file, but the Recycle folder is a system
> folder, and is apparently locked down so I can't ever get it to work.
> And trying to remove the system attribute on the Recycler/Recyled folder
> doesn't seem to work either (nor is it probably a good idea).

Deleting a file from the Recycled folder by means of a batch file is easy,
provided that you have appropriate privileges. However, there are two issues
that are more serious:
- Interfering with this folder is likely to corrupt the Recycle Bin.
- Deleted files are not stored under their original names but under some
artificial name. The link between the two names appears to be stored in a
filed called INFO2 which is also kept in the this folder. Extracting the
original name from INFO2 does not seem to be straightforward.

In view of the above I suggest you drop the idea. If the OE backup files
cause your disk to get full to capacity then it's time to buy a larger disk.

~BD~ wrote:
> On 04/10/2009 22:22, Bill in Co. wrote:
>> Can someone tell me how to do this? I want to simply run it to delete
>> the
>> .bak files (using del *.bak) produced every time I compact the OE
>> folders,
>> instead of having to do this manually each time (by selecting them each
>> time
>> in the recycle bin, which is a hassle).
>>
>> I know how to write the batch file, but the Recycle folder is a system
>> folder, and is apparently locked down so I can't ever get it to work.
>> And
>> trying to remove the system attribute on the Recycler/Recyled folder
>> doesn't
>> seem to work either (nor is it probably a good idea).
>>
>>
> Whist waiting for someone to answer your question, would you please
> explain why you don't simply wish to 'empty' your recycle bin like
> normal folk do?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Dave

Sure. Because I do it so often, and I have a few other files and/or
folders in there that I leave in there, in case I want them back, or for the
history. Selecting ONLY the *.bak ones all the time is a nuisance, when a
batch file can do it automatically.

Pegasus [MVP] wrote:
> "Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Can someone tell me how to do this? I want to simply run it to delete
>> the .bak files (using del *.bak) produced every time I compact the OE
>> folders, instead of having to do this manually each time (by selecting
>> them each time in the recycle bin, which is a hassle).
>>
>> I know how to write the batch file, but the Recycle folder is a system
>> folder, and is apparently locked down so I can't ever get it to work.
>> And trying to remove the system attribute on the Recycler/Recyled folder
>> doesn't seem to work either (nor is it probably a good idea).
>
> Deleting a file from the Recycled folder by means of a batch file is easy,
> provided that you have appropriate privileges.

I do - I'm the Administator and sole user of my computer.

> However, there are two issues
> that are more serious:
> - Interfering with this folder is likely to corrupt the Recycle Bin.

Not if I do it right. :-)

> - Deleted files are not stored under their original names but under some
> artificial name.

I can identify the file names, but my access to the folder in a batch file
to do such operations isn't working, that's all. You know, you get the
standard "not resetting the system attribute.." message, or whatever, when
you attempt it in the batch file.

> The link between the two names appears to be stored in a
> filed called INFO2 which is also kept in the this folder. Extracting the
> original name from INFO2 does not seem to be straightforward.

But again, I think I have access to the filenames ok.

> In view of the above I suggest you drop the idea. If the OE backup files
> cause your disk to get full to capacity then it's time to buy a larger
> disk.

No, that's not the issue. The issue is what I explained in my response to
Dave.

Regarding "...bak files (using del *.bak) produced every time I compact the
OE folders...." - compacting OE folders does not result in *.bak files.





"Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Can someone tell me how to do this? I want to simply run it to delete
> the .bak files (using del *.bak) produced every time I compact the OE
> folders, instead of having to do this manually each time (by selecting
> them each time in the recycle bin, which is a hassle).
>
> I know how to write the batch file, but the Recycle folder is a system
> folder, and is apparently locked down so I can't ever get it to work.
> And trying to remove the system attribute on the Recycler/Recyled folder
> doesn't seem to work either (nor is it probably a good idea).
>

"Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:ul%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Pegasus [MVP] wrote:
>> "Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Can someone tell me how to do this? I want to simply run it to delete
>>> the .bak files (using del *.bak) produced every time I compact the OE
>>> folders, instead of having to do this manually each time (by selecting
>>> them each time in the recycle bin, which is a hassle).
>>>
>>> I know how to write the batch file, but the Recycle folder is a system
>>> folder, and is apparently locked down so I can't ever get it to work.
>>> And trying to remove the system attribute on the Recycler/Recyled folder
>>> doesn't seem to work either (nor is it probably a good idea).
>>
>> Deleting a file from the Recycled folder by means of a batch file is
>> easy,
>> provided that you have appropriate privileges.
>
> I do - I'm the Administator and sole user of my computer.
>
>> However, there are two issues
>> that are more serious:
>> - Interfering with this folder is likely to corrupt the Recycle Bin.
>
> Not if I do it right. :-)
>
>> - Deleted files are not stored under their original names but under some
>> artificial name.
>
> I can identify the file names, but my access to the folder in a batch file
> to do such operations isn't working, that's all. You know, you get the
> standard "not resetting the system attribute.." message, or whatever, when
> you attempt it in the batch file.
>
>> The link between the two names appears to be stored in a
>> filed called INFO2 which is also kept in the this folder. Extracting the
>> original name from INFO2 does not seem to be straightforward.
>
> But again, I think I have access to the filenames ok.
>
>> In view of the above I suggest you drop the idea. If the OE backup files
>> cause your disk to get full to capacity then it's time to buy a larger
>> disk.
>
> No, that's not the issue. The issue is what I explained in my response to
> Dave.

Hi, Dave
If you have some VBScripting skills and can groups.google the
microsoft.public.scripting.vbscript newsgroup, you should be able to find
some sample scripts and snippits that use the shell object to get into
special folders and locate and delete the files of interest.
This thread might contain most of the info you need.
http://groups.google.com/g/78d7fef5/...a48cb73ef9c816

-Paul Randall

AJR wrote:
> Regarding "...bak files (using del *.bak) produced every time I compact
> the OE folders...." - compacting OE folders does not result in *.bak
> files.

You'd better check again. It most certainly does (assuming you have SP2 or
SP3 installed). They are in your Recycle Bin (assuming you have compacted
them). (They aren't *.bak, they are the foldernames.bak. The *.bak is
for the .bat file)

>
>
> "Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Can someone tell me how to do this? I want to simply run it to delete
>> the .bak files (using del *.bak) produced every time I compact the OE
>> folders, instead of having to do this manually each time (by selecting
>> them each time in the recycle bin, which is a hassle).
>>
>> I know how to write the batch file, but the Recycle folder is a system
>> folder, and is apparently locked down so I can't ever get it to work.
>> And trying to remove the system attribute on the Recycler/Recyled folder
>> doesn't seem to work either (nor is it probably a good idea).

Paul Randall wrote:
> "Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:ul%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Pegasus [MVP] wrote:
>>> "Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Can someone tell me how to do this? I want to simply run it to delete
>>>> the .bak files (using del *.bak) produced every time I compact the OE
>>>> folders, instead of having to do this manually each time (by selecting
>>>> them each time in the recycle bin, which is a hassle).
>>>>
>>>> I know how to write the batch file, but the Recycle folder is a system
>>>> folder, and is apparently locked down so I can't ever get it to work.
>>>> And trying to remove the system attribute on the Recycler/Recyled
>>>> folder doesn't seem to work either (nor is it probably a good idea).
>>>
>>> Deleting a file from the Recycled folder by means of a batch file is
>>> easy, provided that you have appropriate privileges.
>>
>> I do - I'm the Administator and sole user of my computer.
>>
>>> However, there are two issues
>>> that are more serious:
>>> - Interfering with this folder is likely to corrupt the Recycle Bin.
>>
>> Not if I do it right. :-)
>>
>>> - Deleted files are not stored under their original names but under some
>>> artificial name.
>>
>> I can identify the file names, but my access to the folder in a batch
>> file
>> to do such operations isn't working, that's all. You know, you get the
>> standard "not resetting the system attribute.." message, or whatever,
>> when you attempt it in the batch file.
>>
>>> The link between the two names appears to be stored in a
>>> filed called INFO2 which is also kept in the this folder. Extracting the
>>> original name from INFO2 does not seem to be straightforward.
>>
>> But again, I think I have access to the filenames ok.
>>
>>> In view of the above I suggest you drop the idea. If the OE backup files
>>> cause your disk to get full to capacity then it's time to buy a larger
>>> disk.
>>
>> No, that's not the issue. The issue is what I explained in my response
>> to
>> Dave. (I have several files in there I want to keep; this is selective)
>
> Hi, Dave
> If you have some VBScripting skills and can groups.google the
> microsoft.public.scripting.vbscript newsgroup, you should be able to find
> some sample scripts and snippits that use the shell object to get into
> special folders and locate and delete the files of interest.
> This thread might contain most of the info you need.
> http://groups.google.com/g/

78d7fef5/t/33e20952f1cd6185/d/35a48cb73ef9c816
>
> -Paul Randall

I'm not sure, but I think you're directing this to me as the OP, and not
Dave.

I know how to delete files in a .bat file, but the problem is being able to
do it with the Recyled folder, which seems to be totally guarded against any
such "encroachments". Are you saying there is no way to do it without
resorting to writing some sort of a VBS script?

Why go for complicated solutions, when all you have to do
is to open the Recycle Bin, Arrange Icons by Type, click
on the first .bak file, scroll down, Ctrl-Shift click on the last
..bak file, and Delete them?

*** See below.

"Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:ul%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Pegasus [MVP] wrote:
>> "Bill in Co." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Can someone tell me how to do this? I want to simply run it to delete
>>> the .bak files (using del *.bak) produced every time I compact the OE
>>> folders, instead of having to do this manually each time (by selecting
>>> them each time in the recycle bin, which is a hassle).
>>>
>>> I know how to write the batch file, but the Recycle folder is a system
>>> folder, and is apparently locked down so I can't ever get it to work.
>>> And trying to remove the system attribute on the Recycler/Recyled folder
>>> doesn't seem to work either (nor is it probably a good idea).
>>
>> Deleting a file from the Recycled folder by means of a batch file is
>> easy,
>> provided that you have appropriate privileges.
>
> I do - I'm the Administator and sole user of my computer.

*** So am I, and I can delete any file in the Recycled folder.

>> However, there are two issues
>> that are more serious:
>> - Interfering with this folder is likely to corrupt the Recycle Bin.
>
> Not if I do it right. :-)

*** Please elaborate.

>> - Deleted files are not stored under their original names but under some
>> artificial name.
>
> I can identify the file names, but my access to the folder in a batch file
> to do such operations isn't working, that's all. You know, you get the
> standard "not resetting the system attribute.." message, or whatever, when
> you attempt it in the batch file.

*** How can you identify the file?

>> The link between the two names appears to be stored in a
>> filed called INFO2 which is also kept in the this folder. Extracting the
>> original name from INFO2 does not seem to be straightforward.
>
> But again, I think I have access to the filenames ok.
>
>> In view of the above I suggest you drop the idea. If the OE backup files
>> cause your disk to get full to capacity then it's time to buy a larger
>> disk.
>
> No, that's not the issue. The issue is what I explained in my response to
> Dave.

If you can answer the above questions then we can probably find a suitable
method. Note that using a VB Script solution is *not* a magic bullet for
permission issues.