Ok. I cannot figure this out. I have been searching for 2 hours and I know it
is a simple process.

I want to have 3 files called
banner.html
index.html
footer.html


The banner i can put in my banner.jpg and my menu and all that jaz.

in the index i can type in all my information.

and in the footer i can do the name as by banner.html page.


What i am trying to do is make sure that my banner.html and my footer.html
are on every page so that for me to make a change to a banner or to a footer
then all i have to do is update either of those two files and they update
all of my pages.

How do i set it up and make it all come together on my index.html page.

i am using frontpage 2003. Thank you so much for your help.

I do not want to use frames because of the SEO problems.

That sounds like the included page in web component.

--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage Since 1997
---------------------------
"Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1604289D-7991-4BF8-B305-(E-Mail Removed)...
: Ok. I cannot figure this out. I have been searching for 2 hours and I know
it
: is a simple process.
:
: I want to have 3 files called
: banner.html
: index.html
: footer.html
:
:
: The banner i can put in my banner.jpg and my menu and all that jaz.
:
: in the index i can type in all my information.
:
: and in the footer i can do the name as by banner.html page.
:
:
: What i am trying to do is make sure that my banner.html and my footer.html
: are on every page so that for me to make a change to a banner or to a
footer
: then all i have to do is update either of those two files and they update
: all of my pages.
:
: How do i set it up and make it all come together on my index.html page.
:
: i am using frontpage 2003. Thank you so much for your help.
:
: I do not want to use frames because of the SEO problems.
:
:
:
:
:
:

I just figured that out but I have done that on this page.
http://www.waggletravel.com but the header and the footer do not show up. Any
suggestions?


"Tom Willett" wrote:

> That sounds like the included page in web component.
>
> --
> Tom [Pepper] Willett
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage Since 1997
> ---------------------------
> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:1604289D-7991-4BF8-B305-(E-Mail Removed)...
> : Ok. I cannot figure this out. I have been searching for 2 hours and I know
> it
> : is a simple process.
> :
> : I want to have 3 files called
> : banner.html
> : index.html
> : footer.html
> :
> :
> : The banner i can put in my banner.jpg and my menu and all that jaz.
> :
> : in the index i can type in all my information.
> :
> : and in the footer i can do the name as by banner.html page.
> :
> :
> : What i am trying to do is make sure that my banner.html and my footer.html
> : are on every page so that for me to make a change to a banner or to a
> footer
> : then all i have to do is update either of those two files and they update
> : all of my pages.
> :
> : How do i set it up and make it all come together on my index.html page.
> :
> : i am using frontpage 2003. Thank you so much for your help.
> :
> : I do not want to use frames because of the SEO problems.
> :
> :
> :
> :
> :
> :
>
>
> .
>

It looks fine when i click on preview but when I click on the page on the
website it does not.

"Tom Willett" wrote:

> That sounds like the included page in web component.
>
> --
> Tom [Pepper] Willett
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage Since 1997
> ---------------------------
> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:1604289D-7991-4BF8-B305-(E-Mail Removed)...
> : Ok. I cannot figure this out. I have been searching for 2 hours and I know
> it
> : is a simple process.
> :
> : I want to have 3 files called
> : banner.html
> : index.html
> : footer.html
> :
> :
> : The banner i can put in my banner.jpg and my menu and all that jaz.
> :
> : in the index i can type in all my information.
> :
> : and in the footer i can do the name as by banner.html page.
> :
> :
> : What i am trying to do is make sure that my banner.html and my footer.html
> : are on every page so that for me to make a change to a banner or to a
> footer
> : then all i have to do is update either of those two files and they update
> : all of my pages.
> :
> : How do i set it up and make it all come together on my index.html page.
> :
> : i am using frontpage 2003. Thank you so much for your help.
> :
> : I do not want to use frames because of the SEO problems.
> :
> :
> :
> :
> :
> :
>
>
> .
>

Are you missing a page path in any of them? Are they coming from the exact
same web or subweb? They can't be used from outside webs.

--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage Since 1997
---------------------------

"Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:5200F073-68EF-4989-B355-(E-Mail Removed)...
:I just figured that out but I have done that on this page.
: http://www.waggletravel.com but the header and the footer do not show up.
Any
: suggestions?
:
:
: "Tom Willett" wrote:
:
: > That sounds like the included page in web component.
: >
: > --
: > Tom [Pepper] Willett
: > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage Since 1997
: > ---------------------------
: > "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
: > news:1604289D-7991-4BF8-B305-(E-Mail Removed)...
: > : Ok. I cannot figure this out. I have been searching for 2 hours and I
know
: > it
: > : is a simple process.
: > :
: > : I want to have 3 files called
: > : banner.html
: > : index.html
: > : footer.html
: > :
: > :
: > : The banner i can put in my banner.jpg and my menu and all that jaz.
: > :
: > : in the index i can type in all my information.
: > :
: > : and in the footer i can do the name as by banner.html page.
: > :
: > :
: > : What i am trying to do is make sure that my banner.html and my
footer.html
: > : are on every page so that for me to make a change to a banner or to a
: > footer
: > : then all i have to do is update either of those two files and they
update
: > : all of my pages.
: > :
: > : How do i set it up and make it all come together on my index.html
page.
: > :
: > : i am using frontpage 2003. Thank you so much for your help.
: > :
: > : I do not want to use frames because of the SEO problems.
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
: > .
: >

All three pages have one thing in common - they are missing the <body> tag.
The include page includes everything between <body> and </body> - if <body>
is missing, there is nothing to include.
Also note that none of the styling and/or javascript in the <head> of the
included pages will be included in the main pages. (I did not check if you
have already done this.)
--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (Expression Web)
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.



"Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:5200F073-68EF-4989-B355-(E-Mail Removed)...
> I just figured that out but I have done that on this page.
> http://www.waggletravel.com but the header and the footer do not show up.
> Any
> suggestions?
>
>
> "Tom Willett" wrote:
>
>> That sounds like the included page in web component.
>>
>> --
>> Tom [Pepper] Willett
>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage Since 1997
>> ---------------------------
>> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:1604289D-7991-4BF8-B305-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> : Ok. I cannot figure this out. I have been searching for 2 hours and I
>> know
>> it
>> : is a simple process.
>> :
>> : I want to have 3 files called
>> : banner.html
>> : index.html
>> : footer.html
>> :
>> :
>> : The banner i can put in my banner.jpg and my menu and all that jaz.
>> :
>> : in the index i can type in all my information.
>> :
>> : and in the footer i can do the name as by banner.html page.
>> :
>> :
>> : What i am trying to do is make sure that my banner.html and my
>> footer.html
>> : are on every page so that for me to make a change to a banner or to a
>> footer
>> : then all i have to do is update either of those two files and they
>> update
>> : all of my pages.
>> :
>> : How do i set it up and make it all come together on my index.html page.
>> :
>> : i am using frontpage 2003. Thank you so much for your help.
>> :
>> : I do not want to use frames because of the SEO problems.
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>>
>>
>> .
>>

Ok now they are showing up. But when i go back into header1.htm and make a
change and upload it. It does not make the change to all the the pages that
are pointing to it unless i upload each and everyone?

for instance. www.waggletravel.com has the 1 next to login

but www.waggletravel.com/tampagolfvacation does not.




"Mike" wrote:

> Ok. I cannot figure this out. I have been searching for 2 hours and I know it
> is a simple process.
>
> I want to have 3 files called
> banner.html
> index.html
> footer.html
>
>
> The banner i can put in my banner.jpg and my menu and all that jaz.
>
> in the index i can type in all my information.
>
> and in the footer i can do the name as by banner.html page.
>
>
> What i am trying to do is make sure that my banner.html and my footer.html
> are on every page so that for me to make a change to a banner or to a footer
> then all i have to do is update either of those two files and they update
> all of my pages.
>
> How do i set it up and make it all come together on my index.html page.
>
> i am using frontpage 2003. Thank you so much for your help.
>
> I do not want to use frames because of the SEO problems.
>
>
>
>
>
>

Are you saying that FP does not mark all pages as altered (and therefore
does not update them when you click on "Publish Web site")?

If so, I have also had that problem with FP.

Interestingly I found that the way to solve it was to ALWAYS amend the
footer (even if it is just by adding an extraneous blank character). It is
the last thing on every page and it seems that amending it will update all
the pages in which it is included.

Don't ask me why !!

--
Trevor Lawrence
Canberra
(ex Front Page MVP)
Web Site http://trevorl.mvps.org


"Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:BAEDEDA6-1E20-4F16-A411-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Ok now they are showing up. But when i go back into header1.htm and make a
> change and upload it. It does not make the change to all the the pages
> that
> are pointing to it unless i upload each and everyone?
>
> for instance. www.waggletravel.com has the 1 next to login
>
> but www.waggletravel.com/tampagolfvacation does not.
>
>
>
>
> "Mike" wrote:
>
>> Ok. I cannot figure this out. I have been searching for 2 hours and I
>> know it
>> is a simple process.
>>
>> I want to have 3 files called
>> banner.html
>> index.html
>> footer.html
>>
>>
>> The banner i can put in my banner.jpg and my menu and all that jaz.
>>
>> in the index i can type in all my information.
>>
>> and in the footer i can do the name as by banner.html page.
>>
>>
>> What i am trying to do is make sure that my banner.html and my
>> footer.html
>> are on every page so that for me to make a change to a banner or to a
>> footer
>> then all i have to do is update either of those two files and they
>> update
>> all of my pages.
>>
>> How do i set it up and make it all come together on my index.html page.
>>
>> i am using frontpage 2003. Thank you so much for your help.
>>
>> I do not want to use frames because of the SEO problems.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

If you have FrontPage extensions running on the server, and you Publish the edited include page with HTTP (not FTP) then the include page should propagate to all pages that use it.

If you use FTP to publish, then it will not propagate on the server, and you have to publish all pages that use it.

With FTP, the only way to upload ONLY the include page is to use Server Side Includes (SSI). This requires a server that supports SSI (most do), and the include page is constructed differently - no <head> section, no <body> tags, no <html> tags.

Also, with most servers, the page extension has to be changed to one of .asp, .shtm, .shtml, or a few others. In particular, .htm or .html will not work with SSI (except on a few servers that have been configured that way - and these will not support FrontPage extensions).

--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (Expression Web)
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp/wf-menu.aspx



Mike expressed precisely :
> Ok now they are showing up. But when i go back
> into header1.htm and make a change and upload
> it. It does not make the change to all the the
> pages that are pointing to it unless i upload
> each and everyone?

> for instance. www.waggletravel.com has the 1
> next to login

> but www.waggletravel.com/tampagolfvacation does
> not.




> "Mike" wrote:

>> Ok. I cannot figure this out. I have been
>> searching for 2 hours and I know it is a
>> simple process.
>>
>> I want to have 3 files called
>> banner.html
>> index.html
>> footer.html
>>
>>
>> The banner i can put in my banner.jpg and my
>> menu and all that jaz.
>>
>> in the index i can type in all my information.
>>
>> and in the footer i can do the name as by
>> banner.html page.
>>
>>
>> What i am trying to do is make sure that my
>> banner.html and my footer.html are on every
>> page so that for me to make a change to a
>> banner or to a footer then all i have to do
>> is update either of those two files and they
>> update all of my pages.
>>
>> How do i set it up and make it all come
>> together on my index.html page.
>>
>> i am using frontpage 2003. Thank you so much
>> for your help.
>>
>> I do not want to use frames because of the SEO
>> problems.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>