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Bandwidth throttling by ip address on W2K Nat server

 
 
James Buttle
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      20th Sep 2004
Hi,

I run a W2k Server for NAT routing (please don't laugh at me).

I have 2 neighbours who use bittorrent and saturate my 1.5 Mb/s cable
connection.

I want to limit their bandwidth by IP address or possibly port.

Any suggestion (Please please please) humorous or non-humorous.


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Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
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      20th Sep 2004
James Buttle wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I run a W2k Server for NAT routing (please don't laugh at me).
>
> I have 2 neighbours who use bittorrent and saturate my 1.5 Mb/s cable
> connection.
>
> I want to limit their bandwidth by IP address or possibly port.
>
> Any suggestion (Please please please) humorous or non-humorous.


Nonhumorous: get a router or proxy server that can handle this sort of thing
Humorous, or perhaps also nonhumorous: take away their Internet access if
they aren't behaving. Also, if they're sharing your internet connection, are
you protecting your LAN/computer in any way? People who use P2P software
often end up downloading nasty little surprises, and you don't want that
stuff touching your computer/network....

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> James Buttle



 
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James Buttle
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      21st Sep 2004
(thanks for swift reply)

Can proxy servers limit bandwidth of clients by ip?

Yeah I am pretty safe i think, got firewall on each machine,
antivirus, adaware and all windows updates. Not much else you can do
really (BTW bittorrents are usually pretty reliable compared to stuff
like kazaa).
 
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Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
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      22nd Sep 2004
James Buttle wrote:
> (thanks for swift reply)


You're welcome!

>
> Can proxy servers limit bandwidth of clients by ip?


Yes, I believe so - I'm not an expert in them, tho. I'd go a-googling if I
were you.
>
> Yeah I am pretty safe i think, got firewall on each machine,
> antivirus, adaware and all windows updates.


Good to hear.

> Not much else you can do
> really (BTW bittorrents are usually pretty reliable compared to stuff
> like kazaa).


Well, I don't like any of that stuff touching any of my networks, for what
it's worth. :-)


 
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      22nd Sep 2004

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> (thanks for swift reply)
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> Can proxy servers limit bandwidth of clients by ip?


None that I know of. MS ISA Server2000 attempted it but it didn't work out
and they remmoved the feature from ISA2004. There are specialized "traffic
shaping" applicances that cost big $$$, but I don't know of any specific
brand or model. I'm sure major manufacturers like Cisco probably have built
solutions for that.

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      24th Sep 2004

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> "James Buttle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> (thanks for swift reply)
>>
>> Can proxy servers limit bandwidth of clients by ip?

>
> None that I know of. MS ISA Server2000 attempted it but it didn't work
> out
> and they remmoved the feature from ISA2004. There are specialized
> "traffic
> shaping" applicances that cost big $$$, but I don't know of any specific
> brand or model. I'm sure major manufacturers like Cisco probably have
> built
> solutions for that.
>
> --
>
> Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
> www.wandtv.com
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He can try this Gateway from DLink -
http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=173

CapFusion,...


 
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      27th Sep 2004
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> > "James Buttle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> >> Can proxy servers limit bandwidth of clients by ip?

> >
> > None that I know of. MS ISA Server2000 attempted it but it didn't work
> > out
> > and they remmoved the feature from ISA2004. There are specialized
> > "traffic
> > shaping" applicances that cost big $$$, but I don't know of any specific
> > brand or model. I'm sure major manufacturers like Cisco probably have
> > built
> > solutions for that.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
> > www.wandtv.com
> >

>
> He can try this Gateway from DLink -
> http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=173
>
> CapFusion,...



Yours for only...

ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS wahahahahahhahaha.

Er. I guess this is not easily done then. I had played with a peice
of software called netlimiter, which is great for the client, but am
amazed that there is nothing similar for what I want to do.

I bet there are linux utilities that do the same thing (troll troll
troll)

Perhaps the proxy server expert can suggest something? I have already
searched the web, but couldn't see anything that does the job (there
are plenty of things that appear at a glance to be what I am after,
but turn out to be webservers like IIS and zeus).

ho hum (_8(l)
 
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      27th Sep 2004
"James Buttle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Yours for only...
>
> ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS wahahahahahhahaha.
>
> Er. I guess this is not easily done then. I had played with a peice
> of software called netlimiter, which is great for the client, but am
> amazed that there is nothing similar for what I want to do.
>
> I bet there are linux utilities that do the same thing (troll troll
> troll)


Maybe,...maybe not. I don't think you realize the amount of processing and
intervention that a device must do for this to work properly. That's why
the established ones cost so much and other attempts, like with ISA, failed.

You may find that even if you ever find a way to implement it, that it ends
up not providing real benefits to the degree you hoped and just simply
wasn't worth all the trouble (that's why there aren't that many out there).
Bandwidth issues can usually be solved by a combination of what you let
users do in the first place, and what bandwidth you are willing to purchase
or upgrade to. Don't depend on technology to control user's habits,...it is
controlled by about 50% technology and 50% Company Policy with management
willing to enforce it.

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