Complaint for: WinLive PhotoGallery + Office PictureManager + other recent
Microsoft products which exhibit similar nerve-breaking behavior + one Color
problem with existing/older Windows features:

WHY DOES IT (e.g. WL PhotoGallery) DISREGARD SYSTEM-WIDE COLOR SCHEME!?!
I've been doing computers for @least 20 years, my permanent colorscheme is
dark or totally Black, black background (desktop/app. window/etc), etc. I
am a degreed (MSEE) engineer so not stupid, there's a reason many
professionals, unlike home/children users set as many Windows elements to
Black as possible.
What is this fad with Microsoft in recent applications who refuse to read
System color settings and instead insist on White background. I am so hurt
by WinLive PhotoGallery's persistent white background, that annoys my eyes
to the point, it will be uninstalled. Same deal with MS Office Picture
manager which I hoped to use instead - white background & no way to
customize. Look Microsoft, is it logical for
you to make 2 products one of which defies another, it'd be no surprise for
2 different companies, but you also make Windows; so what are Windows
CLASSIC color controls for? To be overidden by some
"dominator" applications like PhotoGallery?

So may we ask to please add an option to either set background color (BEST),
or add a "Black" theme (but why bother, it's easier to give customers an
option for manually setting backgroudn color), or just adhere to Windows
colorscheme for God's sake Windows is also made by Microsoft.
Who is watching images or movies with intensely white background? MORONS
WHO DON"T REALIZE THEY WILL NEED an EYE DOCTOR IN !) YEARS.
I am an engineer and also a former developer, I spend enormous time with
computers, and may I claim the fact that I know what I am doing in terms of
display settings & colors. Been doing it long enough and
my 28-year old eyes are in perfect shape despite so much compyters, that
most Developers get glasses by 40!

I've been holding "steam" for years but I am fed up. I will now post this
complaint all over MS Newsgroups and email to your offices. The deal with
applications disregarding system wide color scheme is puzzling system that
color scheme is user-defined in Windows - which is also made by Microsoft.
SO your right hand doesn't know what left does??
Many professional people sit in dark rooms, with stealth black LCD's, and
blue lighting, in my case in neighboring a UNIX lab (but I control Windows
PC's) and an application like WindowsLive Photogallery
which likes ot open images by default in a crazy aspect ratio, filling the
rest of display with disgusting white filler.
Do you ever get headaches at work? maybe too much white on your display,
ever wondered?

***********************************
THIS BUG's BEEN BUGGING US SINCE 2003!!!

If a Black color scheme is selected in Windows-->Classic-->Advanced, then a
very disstressing behavior occurs
Set desktop & window backrgound to Black, font to Silver - my favorite,
allowing to spend countless hours on the computer, yet maintaining eye
HEALTH. Do the same with White background, white other... a headache will
develop.
Now goto Win Explorer or Win Mail, and sort files/emails/items by any column
(e.g. by date). Instead of clear view (you'd expect in Classic Windows),
you will see Whitish background + light text on it,
totally unreadable & horrible. Impossible to focus on work. The only way
to never see that mess, is it is to NEVER have "details" view turned on in
WinExplorer, as of Winmail I am forced to narrow Date
column to zero as that is the column by which usually emails are arranged.
As you can guess it appears mutilated if you arrange by date.

COLOR BUG CONTINUED from previous msg:
It's one bug, but everything else is gorgeous in Windows Black color scheme,
I've been tolerating this since 2003, but only now decided to message
Microsoft.
Many people know it & simply avoid "Details" view in WinExplorer, but it's
not a solution. I used to use Details view all the time in WindowsME & NT,
not anymore, can't..
What happened here is that sorted-by column background color is "hardwired",
not customizable in Appearance-->Advanced. It uses some sort of algorithm
which fails when user selects Black background.

And in case you wonder, Black is what you shoudl select unless you want
brain cancer due to 10-hour work day on a computer.

By the way, please keep Windows-->Appearance-->Advanced-->Classic option
forever, WinXP/Vista (and Windows7?) do not have nearly as much color
control as Classic, and if one day these customization options are gone, I
will also be gone... to another OperatingSystem (we all kno what it is).
Colors customization is critical to me, as I spend hours on computers):

In your rant you claim to be an expert, but apparently dont know how to
cross post - go figure
Anyway your addy killed

"Mark Levitski" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:u%23i3%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Complaint for: WinLive PhotoGallery + Office PictureManager + other recent
> Microsoft products which exhibit similar nerve-breaking behavior + one
> Color
> problem with existing/older Windows features:
>
> WHY DOES IT (e.g. WL PhotoGallery) DISREGARD SYSTEM-WIDE COLOR SCHEME!?!
> I've been doing computers for @least 20 years, my permanent colorscheme is
> dark or totally Black, black background (desktop/app. window/etc), etc. I
> am a degreed (MSEE) engineer so not stupid, there's a reason many
> professionals, unlike home/children users set as many Windows elements to
> Black as possible.
> What is this fad with Microsoft in recent applications who refuse to read
> System color settings and instead insist on White background. I am so
> hurt
> by WinLive PhotoGallery's persistent white background, that annoys my eyes
> to the point, it will be uninstalled. Same deal with MS Office Picture
> manager which I hoped to use instead - white background & no way to
> customize. Look Microsoft, is it logical for
> you to make 2 products one of which defies another, it'd be no surprise
> for
> 2 different companies, but you also make Windows; so what are Windows
> CLASSIC color controls for? To be overidden by some
> "dominator" applications like PhotoGallery?
>
> So may we ask to please add an option to either set background color
> (BEST),
> or add a "Black" theme (but why bother, it's easier to give customers an
> option for manually setting backgroudn color), or just adhere to Windows
> colorscheme for God's sake Windows is also made by Microsoft.
> Who is watching images or movies with intensely white background? MORONS
> WHO DON"T REALIZE THEY WILL NEED an EYE DOCTOR IN !) YEARS.
> I am an engineer and also a former developer, I spend enormous time with
> computers, and may I claim the fact that I know what I am doing in terms
> of
> display settings & colors. Been doing it long enough and
> my 28-year old eyes are in perfect shape despite so much compyters, that
> most Developers get glasses by 40!
>
> I've been holding "steam" for years but I am fed up. I will now post this
> complaint all over MS Newsgroups and email to your offices. The deal with
> applications disregarding system wide color scheme is puzzling system that
> color scheme is user-defined in Windows - which is also made by Microsoft.
> SO your right hand doesn't know what left does??
> Many professional people sit in dark rooms, with stealth black LCD's, and
> blue lighting, in my case in neighboring a UNIX lab (but I control Windows
> PC's) and an application like WindowsLive Photogallery
> which likes ot open images by default in a crazy aspect ratio, filling the
> rest of display with disgusting white filler.
> Do you ever get headaches at work? maybe too much white on your display,
> ever wondered?
>
> ***********************************
> THIS BUG's BEEN BUGGING US SINCE 2003!!!
>
> If a Black color scheme is selected in Windows-->Classic-->Advanced, then
> a
> very disstressing behavior occurs
> Set desktop & window backrgound to Black, font to Silver - my favorite,
> allowing to spend countless hours on the computer, yet maintaining eye
> HEALTH. Do the same with White background, white other... a headache will
> develop.
> Now goto Win Explorer or Win Mail, and sort files/emails/items by any
> column
> (e.g. by date). Instead of clear view (you'd expect in Classic Windows),
> you will see Whitish background + light text on it,
> totally unreadable & horrible. Impossible to focus on work. The only way
> to never see that mess, is it is to NEVER have "details" view turned on in
> WinExplorer, as of Winmail I am forced to narrow Date
> column to zero as that is the column by which usually emails are arranged.
> As you can guess it appears mutilated if you arrange by date.
>
> COLOR BUG CONTINUED from previous msg:
> It's one bug, but everything else is gorgeous in Windows Black color
> scheme,
> I've been tolerating this since 2003, but only now decided to message
> Microsoft.
> Many people know it & simply avoid "Details" view in WinExplorer, but it's
> not a solution. I used to use Details view all the time in WindowsME &
> NT,
> not anymore, can't..
> What happened here is that sorted-by column background color is
> "hardwired",
> not customizable in Appearance-->Advanced. It uses some sort of algorithm
> which fails when user selects Black background.
>
> And in case you wonder, Black is what you shoudl select unless you want
> brain cancer due to 10-hour work day on a computer.
>
> By the way, please keep Windows-->Appearance-->Advanced-->Classic option
> forever, WinXP/Vista (and Windows7?) do not have nearly as much color
> control as Classic, and if one day these customization options are gone, I
> will also be gone... to another OperatingSystem (we all kno what it is).
> Colors customization is critical to me, as I spend hours on computers):
>

Windows Mail is NOT a Windows Live application, d00d!

Mark Levitski wrote:
> Complaint for: WinLive PhotoGallery + Office PictureManager + other recent
> Microsoft products which exhibit similar nerve-breaking behavior + one
> Color
> problem with existing/older Windows features..

<yawn>

Mark Levitski wrote:
> Where do you see me calling it "WinLive" application?
>
> I am talking about regular Winmail base don good, old, WORKING
> OutlookExpress, not about new WInLive crapware.
> The colors are messed up when black desktop + black windows etc backgroudn
> is selected. This behavior is unique to WinMail and WinExplorer and is
> triggered when you arrange items by a certain column.
>
> That "sorted" column" becomes invisible or annoying whitish with fonts
> invisible. My fonts are silver color normally.
> This means people who design these things expect everyone to stick with
> their forced White background. Thisis not how professional peopl ework,
> and
> not how things are done in LINUX.
>
> You should expect people using balck background, as the healthiest thing
> for
> your brains and eyes.
> But ocne you sort a certain column, e.g. date or filename in WinExplorer
> or
> Winmail that column becomes corrupt. tru it.

Where do you see me calling it "WinLive" application?

I am talking about regular Winmail base don good, old, WORKING
OutlookExpress, not about new WInLive crapware.
The colors are messed up when black desktop + black windows etc backgroudn
is selected. This behavior is unique to WinMail and WinExplorer and is
triggered when you arrange items by a certain column.

That "sorted" column" becomes invisible or annoying whitish with fonts
invisible. My fonts are silver color normally.
This means people who design these things expect everyone to stick with
their forced White background. Thisis not how professional peopl ework, and
not how things are done in LINUX.

You should expect people using balck background, as the healthiest thing for
your brains and eyes.
But ocne you sort a certain column, e.g. date or filename in WinExplorer or
Winmail that column becomes corrupt. tru it.

"Mark Levitski" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Where do you see me calling it "WinLive" application?
>
> I am talking about regular Winmail base don good, old, WORKING
> OutlookExpress, not about new WInLive crapware.
> The colors are messed up when black desktop + black windows etc backgroudn
> is selected. This behavior is unique to WinMail and WinExplorer and is
> triggered when you arrange items by a certain column.
>
> That "sorted" column" becomes invisible or annoying whitish with fonts
> invisible. My fonts are silver color normally.
> This means people who design these things expect everyone to stick with
> their forced White background. Thisis not how professional peopl ework,
> and not how things are done in LINUX.
>
> You should expect people using balck background, as the healthiest thing
> for your brains and eyes.
> But ocne you sort a certain column, e.g. date or filename in WinExplorer
> or Winmail that column becomes corrupt. tru it.

If you keep using names for the programs other than those Microsoft uses,
keep expecting answers that aren't very useful.

Microsoft has almost stopped offering any updates at all for two of their
email/newsreader programs, Outlook Express and Windows Mail. They
may still provide any security updates needed, but very few others.

They still offer updates for their Outlook email-only program and their
new email/newsreader program, Windows Live Mail, so it may be
worthwhile asking for suitable new features in them (but not in this
newsgroup, which Microsoft has stopped reading).

Robert Miles