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Zoo
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      9th Jun 2005
is there anything like norton ghost, that works.

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Tony Sivori
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      10th Jun 2005
Zoo wrote:

> is there anything like norton ghost, that works.


Download a Knoppix Linux CD, then boot from the CD - it installs nothing
to your hard drive - then use Partimage (which is included with Knoppix)
to back up your partitions to an image type file. If you use it on an NTFS
partition, be sure to defrag the partition immediately before making the
back up.

http://www.partimage.org/

http://www.knoppix.net/get.php

You might find Partimage a little confusing at first. It uses Linux
nomenclature to describe your partitions. Instead of C:, it's hd1. But
once you know how it is easy to use.

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      11th Jun 2005

"Tony Sivori" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Zoo wrote:
>
> > is there anything like norton ghost, that works.

>
> Download a Knoppix Linux CD, then boot from the CD - it installs nothing
> to your hard drive - then use Partimage (which is included with Knoppix)
> to back up your partitions to an image type file. If you use it on an NTFS
> partition, be sure to defrag the partition immediately before making the
> back up.
>
> http://www.partimage.org/
>
> http://www.knoppix.net/get.php
>
> You might find Partimage a little confusing at first. It uses Linux
> nomenclature to describe your partitions. Instead of C:, it's hd1. But
> once you know how it is easy to use.
>
> --
> Tony Sivori
>

But if you're using non-Linux OS and use this per your instructions above,
the C becomes hd1. OK. That I understand, now for my question:
Assuming one used this program to backup the HD and it is called hd1 on
the backup, what will that do should one ever have to use it on the C that
is hd1 on the backup?


 
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      11th Jun 2005

"Zoo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> is there anything like norton ghost, that works.
>
> zoo.
>

Norton Ghost on a DOS disk works perfectly..

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> for the man, and ends as a journey
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      11th Jun 2005
"Helen" <@abuse.roman.gov> wrote:

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>"Tony Sivori" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> Zoo wrote:
>>
>> > is there anything like norton ghost, that works.

>>
>> Download a Knoppix Linux CD, then boot from the CD - it installs nothing
>> to your hard drive - then use Partimage (which is included with Knoppix)
>> to back up your partitions to an image type file. If you use it on an NTFS
>> partition, be sure to defrag the partition immediately before making the
>> back up.
>>
>> http://www.partimage.org/
>>
>> http://www.knoppix.net/get.php
>>
>> You might find Partimage a little confusing at first. It uses Linux
>> nomenclature to describe your partitions. Instead of C:, it's hd1. But
>> once you know how it is easy to use.
>>
>> --
>> Tony Sivori
>>

>But if you're using non-Linux OS and use this per your instructions above,
>the C becomes hd1. OK. That I understand, now for my question:
>Assuming one used this program to backup the HD and it is called hd1 on
>the backup, what will that do should one ever have to use it on the C that
>is hd1 on the backup?
>


You restore it.

It doesn't create a backup copy that you can boot from, or even read
the individual files of. It creates a compressed image of the entire
drive. All you can do with it is use PartImage again to restore it to
a regular partition (C or some other drive letter).

Also, hd1 *is* your C drive, not the copy. The copy gets stored in a
file (or set of files if they are over 2 GB) on some other drive. You
will need another drive or another partition with enough free space to
store the image file to.

Terry

 
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Tony Sivori
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      12th Jun 2005
Helen wrote:
> But if you're using non-Linux OS and use this per your instructions
> above, the C becomes hd1. OK. That I understand, now for my question:
> Assuming one used this program to backup the HD and it is called hd1 on
> the backup, what will that do should one ever have to use it on the C
> that is hd1 on the backup?


Terry's reply is right. What Knoppix calls your disks and partitions is no
consequence to Windows. When in Knoppix, you see it under the Linux name,
once in Windows it will be the familiar C:\. Even if you restore the
back up, nothing will be changed. Also, as Terry said, you'll need a
separate partition or hard drive to back up C. Just like Ghost.

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      12th Jun 2005

"Tony Sivori" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Helen wrote:
> > But if you're using non-Linux OS and use this per your instructions
> > above, the C becomes hd1. OK. That I understand, now for my question:
> > Assuming one used this program to backup the HD and it is called hd1 on
> > the backup, what will that do should one ever have to use it on the C
> > that is hd1 on the backup?

>
> Terry's reply is right. What Knoppix calls your disks and partitions is no
> consequence to Windows. When in Knoppix, you see it under the Linux name,
> once in Windows it will be the familiar C:\. Even if you restore the
> back up, nothing will be changed. Also, as Terry said, you'll need a
> separate partition or hard drive to back up C. Just like Ghost.
>
> --
> Tony Sivori
>


Thanks Terry and Tony. I appreciate the info. I think it is imperative
that people
know, up front that a separate partition or hard drive is required. Not all
who
read this ng can be assumed to know what some consider basic knowledge.
Sometimes I ask questions whose answer I already know, for this very
purpose.
Thank you both again for your time and clear responses.

Helen


 
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Terry
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      12th Jun 2005
"Helen" <@abuse.roman.gov> wrote:

> Not all who read this ng can be assumed to know what some
> consider basic knowledge. Sometimes I ask questions whose answer I
> already know, for this very purpose.


I suggest you just supply the answer. Save us all time.

T.

 
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Tony Sivori
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      13th Jun 2005
Helen wrote:
> Thanks Terry and Tony. I appreciate the info. I think it is imperative
> that people know, up front that a separate partition or hard drive is
> required.


Actually there is another way. You can back up to a computer on your
lan, if you have one. Unfortunately, unlike Ghost, Partimage doesn't yet
have the capability to burn directly to DVD or CD-R.

Here's a pretty good guide on how to use Partimage:
http://www.partimage.org/doc/index-3.html#ss3.1

> Not all who read this ng can be assumed to know what some consider basic
> knowledge. Sometimes I ask questions whose answer I already know, for
> this very purpose.


Perhaps you might consider writing and posting your own FAQ for such
questions.


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      14th Jun 2005
In article <l8Zqe.1269$(E-Mail Removed)>, @abuse.roman.gov says...
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>
>
>"Tony Sivori" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Helen wrote:
>> > But if you're using non-Linux OS and use this per your
>> > instructions
>> > above, the C becomes hd1. OK. That I understand, now for my
>> > question:
>> > Assuming one used this program to backup the HD and it is called
>> > hd1 on
>> > the backup, what will that do should one ever have to use it on
>> > the C
>> > that is hd1 on the backup?

>>
>> Terry's reply is right. What Knoppix calls your disks and
>> partitions is no
>> consequence to Windows. When in Knoppix, you see it under the
>> Linux name,
>> once in Windows it will be the familiar C:\. Even if you restore
>> the
>> back up, nothing will be changed. Also, as Terry said, you'll need
>> a
>> separate partition or hard drive to back up C. Just like Ghost.
>>
>> --
>> Tony Sivori
>>

>
>Thanks Terry and Tony. I appreciate the info. I think it is
>imperative
>that people
>know, up front that a separate partition or hard drive is required.
>Not all
>who
>read this ng can be assumed to know what some consider basic
>knowledge.
>Sometimes I ask questions whose answer I already know, for this very
>purpose.
>Thank you both again for your time and clear responses.
>
>Helen
>
>


If you had actually bothered to read the documention,you
would know separate a partition or hard drive is required without
having to ask anyone.

Don't try to blame the software or others for your "lack of knowledge".

Look in the mirror.








 
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