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      19th Jan 2009
I have an external usb drive connected to the computer & have used the
built-in backup (ntbackup?) to back up several folders every night.
I get no error messages in the log file, just no backup ever happens.
Any ideas why?



 
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      19th Jan 2009

"Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have an external usb drive connected to the computer & have used the
>built-in backup (ntbackup?) to back up several folders every night.
> I get no error messages in the log file, just no backup ever happens.
> Any ideas why?
>


You need to supply more details, e.g.
- What exactly is your backup command?
- How do you run it: Directly or scheduled?
- If it is scheduled, have you tried running it directly?
- Which log file are you looking at?
- What does it contain?


 
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> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>I have an external usb drive connected to the computer & have used the
>>built-in backup (ntbackup?) to back up several folders every night.
>> I get no error messages in the log file, just no backup ever happens.
>> Any ideas why?
>>

>
> You need to supply more details, e.g.
> - What exactly is your backup command?
> - How do you run it: Directly or scheduled?
> - If it is scheduled, have you tried running it directly?
> - Which log file are you looking at?
> - What does it contain?
>


Starting with the backup wizard, selecting certain files and folders,
scheduled for 2AM
No log entries, no backup files, nothing the next morning.
Running directly will work, scheduling for later seems to be the problem...


 
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      19th Jan 2009

"Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Pegasus (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>I have an external usb drive connected to the computer & have used the
>>>built-in backup (ntbackup?) to back up several folders every night.
>>> I get no error messages in the log file, just no backup ever happens.
>>> Any ideas why?
>>>

>>
>> You need to supply more details, e.g.
>> - What exactly is your backup command?
>> - How do you run it: Directly or scheduled?
>> - If it is scheduled, have you tried running it directly?
>> - Which log file are you looking at?
>> - What does it contain?
>>

>
> Starting with the backup wizard, selecting certain files and folders,
> scheduled for 2AM
> No log entries, no backup files, nothing the next morning.
> Running directly will work, scheduling for later seems to be the
> problem...


Fine. Now run this little test:
1. Click Start / Run / notepad c:\MyBackup.bat{OK}
2. Allow a new file to be created.
3. Type these lines:
@echo off
echo %date% %time% %UserName% >> c:\MyBackup.log
4. Open the Task Scheduler and copy the ntbackup command line,
using Ctrl+C.
5. Paste this line into your batch file, then add another line so that
it looks like so:
@echo off
echo %date% %time% %UserName% >> c:\MyBackup.log
%SystemRoot%\system32\ntbackup.exe /.. /.. /..
echo Backup ended at %time% >> c:\MyBackup.log
6. Save and close the batch file.
7. Run it right now.
8. Use notepad.exe to check the file c:\MyBackup.log.
9. Use the Task Scheduler to invoke c:\MyBackup.bat five
minutes from now.
10. Wait 10 minutes.
11. Examine c:\MyBackup.log again.
12. Report the result here.

Note: The above procedure will not solve your problem. However, it will tell
you what's going on.


 
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"Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Pegasus (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>I have an external usb drive connected to the computer & have used the
>>>built-in backup (ntbackup?) to back up several folders every night.
>>> I get no error messages in the log file, just no backup ever happens.
>>> Any ideas why?
>>>

>>
>> You need to supply more details, e.g.
>> - What exactly is your backup command?
>> - How do you run it: Directly or scheduled?
>> - If it is scheduled, have you tried running it directly?
>> - Which log file are you looking at?
>> - What does it contain?
>>

>
> Starting with the backup wizard, selecting certain files and folders,
> scheduled for 2AM
> No log entries, no backup files, nothing the next morning.
> Running directly will work, scheduling for later seems to be the
> problem...


Don't forget to post the exact ntbackup command in your reply!


 
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      19th Jan 2009
"Pegasus (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>I have an external usb drive connected to the computer & have used the
>>>>built-in backup (ntbackup?) to back up several folders every night.
>>>> I get no error messages in the log file, just no backup ever happens.
>>>> Any ideas why?
>>>>
>>>
>>> You need to supply more details, e.g.
>>> - What exactly is your backup command?
>>> - How do you run it: Directly or scheduled?
>>> - If it is scheduled, have you tried running it directly?
>>> - Which log file are you looking at?
>>> - What does it contain?
>>>

>>
>> Starting with the backup wizard, selecting certain files and folders,
>> scheduled for 2AM
>> No log entries, no backup files, nothing the next morning.
>> Running directly will work, scheduling for later seems to be the
>> problem...

>
> Fine. Now run this little test:
> 1. Click Start / Run / notepad c:\MyBackup.bat{OK}
> 2. Allow a new file to be created.
> 3. Type these lines:
> @echo off
> echo %date% %time% %UserName% >> c:\MyBackup.log
> 4. Open the Task Scheduler and copy the ntbackup command line,
> using Ctrl+C.
> 5. Paste this line into your batch file, then add another line so that
> it looks like so:
> @echo off
> echo %date% %time% %UserName% >> c:\MyBackup.log
> %SystemRoot%\system32\ntbackup.exe /.. /.. /..
> echo Backup ended at %time% >> c:\MyBackup.log
> 6. Save and close the batch file.
> 7. Run it right now.
> 8. Use notepad.exe to check the file c:\MyBackup.log.
> 9. Use the Task Scheduler to invoke c:\MyBackup.bat five
> minutes from now.
> 10. Wait 10 minutes.
> 11. Examine c:\MyBackup.log again.
> 12. Report the result here.
>
> Note: The above procedure will not solve your problem. However, it will
> tell you what's going on.
>


At the risk of sounding stupid, I don't have alot of experience with batch
files - are there any variables that I need to enter in place of .. /.. /..
?


 
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"Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Pegasus (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>I have an external usb drive connected to the computer & have used the
>>>>>built-in backup (ntbackup?) to back up several folders every night.
>>>>> I get no error messages in the log file, just no backup ever happens.
>>>>> Any ideas why?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You need to supply more details, e.g.
>>>> - What exactly is your backup command?
>>>> - How do you run it: Directly or scheduled?
>>>> - If it is scheduled, have you tried running it directly?
>>>> - Which log file are you looking at?
>>>> - What does it contain?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Starting with the backup wizard, selecting certain files and folders,
>>> scheduled for 2AM
>>> No log entries, no backup files, nothing the next morning.
>>> Running directly will work, scheduling for later seems to be the
>>> problem...

>>
>> Fine. Now run this little test:
>> 1. Click Start / Run / notepad c:\MyBackup.bat{OK}
>> 2. Allow a new file to be created.
>> 3. Type these lines:
>> @echo off
>> echo %date% %time% %UserName% >> c:\MyBackup.log
>> 4. Open the Task Scheduler and copy the ntbackup command line,
>> using Ctrl+C.
>> 5. Paste this line into your batch file, then add another line so that
>> it looks like so:
>> @echo off
>> echo %date% %time% %UserName% >> c:\MyBackup.log
>> %SystemRoot%\system32\ntbackup.exe /.. /.. /..
>> echo Backup ended at %time% >> c:\MyBackup.log
>> 6. Save and close the batch file.
>> 7. Run it right now.
>> 8. Use notepad.exe to check the file c:\MyBackup.log.
>> 9. Use the Task Scheduler to invoke c:\MyBackup.bat five
>> minutes from now.
>> 10. Wait 10 minutes.
>> 11. Examine c:\MyBackup.log again.
>> 12. Report the result here.
>>
>> Note: The above procedure will not solve your problem. However, it will
>> tell you what's going on.
>>

>
> At the risk of sounding stupid, I don't have alot of experience with batch
> files - are there any variables that I need to enter in place of .. /..
> /.. ?


You're not supposed to take any initiative there. I will restate the crucial
step:

4. Open the Task Scheduler and copy the ntbackup command line, using Ctrl+C.

- Did you open the Task Scheduler?
- Did you open the backup task?
- Did you see the "ntbackup" command line with all its switches?
- Did you mark/copy it, using Ctrl+C?

If you did all of the above then it's a matter of pasting that command line
into your batch file. No magic at all!


 
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"Pegasus (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>I have an external usb drive connected to the computer & have used the
>>>>>>built-in backup (ntbackup?) to back up several folders every night.
>>>>>> I get no error messages in the log file, just no backup ever happens.
>>>>>> Any ideas why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to supply more details, e.g.
>>>>> - What exactly is your backup command?
>>>>> - How do you run it: Directly or scheduled?
>>>>> - If it is scheduled, have you tried running it directly?
>>>>> - Which log file are you looking at?
>>>>> - What does it contain?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Starting with the backup wizard, selecting certain files and folders,
>>>> scheduled for 2AM
>>>> No log entries, no backup files, nothing the next morning.
>>>> Running directly will work, scheduling for later seems to be the
>>>> problem...
>>>
>>> Fine. Now run this little test:
>>> 1. Click Start / Run / notepad c:\MyBackup.bat{OK}
>>> 2. Allow a new file to be created.
>>> 3. Type these lines:
>>> @echo off
>>> echo %date% %time% %UserName% >> c:\MyBackup.log
>>> 4. Open the Task Scheduler and copy the ntbackup command line,
>>> using Ctrl+C.
>>> 5. Paste this line into your batch file, then add another line so that
>>> it looks like so:
>>> @echo off
>>> echo %date% %time% %UserName% >> c:\MyBackup.log
>>> %SystemRoot%\system32\ntbackup.exe /.. /.. /..
>>> echo Backup ended at %time% >> c:\MyBackup.log
>>> 6. Save and close the batch file.
>>> 7. Run it right now.
>>> 8. Use notepad.exe to check the file c:\MyBackup.log.
>>> 9. Use the Task Scheduler to invoke c:\MyBackup.bat five
>>> minutes from now.
>>> 10. Wait 10 minutes.
>>> 11. Examine c:\MyBackup.log again.
>>> 12. Report the result here.
>>>
>>> Note: The above procedure will not solve your problem. However, it will
>>> tell you what's going on.
>>>

>>
>> At the risk of sounding stupid, I don't have alot of experience with
>> batch files - are there any variables that I need to enter in place of
>> .. /.. /.. ?

>
> You're not supposed to take any initiative there. I will restate the
> crucial step:
>
> 4. Open the Task Scheduler and copy the ntbackup command line, using
> Ctrl+C.
>
> - Did you open the Task Scheduler?
> - Did you open the backup task?
> - Did you see the "ntbackup" command line with all its switches?
> - Did you mark/copy it, using Ctrl+C?
>
> If you did all of the above then it's a matter of pasting that command
> line into your batch file. No magic at all!
>


I am currently at home, on my XP box.
The Win2k is one I have set up at the office, running an older copy of
Peachtree, that I hope to replace in amonth or so... Ok, I'm rambling!
Anyway, I was going through the steps on my XP box, just to see what
happens.
I'm assuming Task Scheduler will not look/act the same as Scheduled Tasks?
I'll past back when I get to Win2k box...


 
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On Jan 19, 8:54*am, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
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>
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> > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote in message
> >news:(E-Mail Removed)...

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> >> "Mike" <mikey...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote in message
> >>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...

>
> >>>> "Mike" <mikey...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>>>>I have an external usb drive connected to the computer & have used the
> >>>>>built-in backup (ntbackup?) to back up several folders every night.
> >>>>> I get no error messages in the log file, just no backup ever happens.
> >>>>> Any ideas why?

>
> >>>> You need to supply more details, e.g.
> >>>> - What exactly is your backup command?
> >>>> - How do you run it: Directly or scheduled?
> >>>> - If it is scheduled, have you tried running it directly?
> >>>> - Which log file are you looking at?
> >>>> - What does it contain?

>
> >>> Starting with the backup wizard, selecting certain files and folders,
> >>> scheduled for 2AM
> >>> No log entries, no backup files, nothing the next morning.
> >>> Running directly will work, scheduling for later seems to be the
> >>> problem...

>
> >> Fine. Now run this little test:
> >> 1. Click Start / Run / notepad c:\MyBackup.bat{OK}
> >> 2. Allow a new file to be created.
> >> 3. Type these lines:
> >> * *@echo off
> >> * *echo %date% %time% %UserName% >> c:\MyBackup.log
> >> 4. Open the Task Scheduler and copy the ntbackup command line,
> >> * *using Ctrl+C.
> >> 5. Paste this line into your batch file, then add another line so that
> >> * *it looks like so:
> >> * *@echo off
> >> * *echo %date% %time% %UserName% >> c:\MyBackup.log
> >> * *%SystemRoot%\system32\ntbackup.exe /.. /.. /..
> >> * *echo Backup ended at %time% >> c:\MyBackup.log
> >> 6. Save and close the batch file.
> >> 7. Run it right now.
> >> 8. Use notepad.exe to check the file c:\MyBackup.log.
> >> 9. Use the Task Scheduler to invoke c:\MyBackup.bat five
> >> * *minutes from now.
> >> 10. Wait 10 minutes.
> >> 11. Examine c:\MyBackup.log again.
> >> 12. Report the result here.

>
> >> Note: The above procedure will not solve your problem. However, it will
> >> tell you what's going on.

>
> > At the risk of sounding stupid, I don't have alot of experience with batch
> > files - are there any variables that I need to enter in place of *.. /..
> > /.. ?

>
> You're not supposed to take any initiative there. I will restate the crucial
> step:
>
> 4. Open the Task Scheduler and copy the ntbackup command line, using Ctrl+C.
>
> - Did you open the Task Scheduler?
> - Did you open the backup task?
> - Did you see the "ntbackup" command line with all its switches?
> - Did you mark/copy it, using Ctrl+C?
>
> If you did all of the above then it's a matter of pasting that command line
> into your batch file. No magic at all!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Scheduled time came & went & nothing happened.
The only entry in the log file was for the one that I manually ran.
Here's the contents of batch file...
@echo off
echo %date% %time% %UserName% >> c:\MyBackup.log
C:\WINNT\system32\NTBACKUP.EXE backup "@C:\Documents and Settings\John
Doe\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows NT\NTBackup\data
\backupTest.bks" /a /d "Set created 1/17/2009 at 4:43 PM" /v:no /r:no /
rs:no /hcff /m normal /j "backupTest.job" /l:s /f "F:\Bob PC daily-
test.bkf"
echo Backup ended at %time% >> c:\MyBackup.log
 
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Scheduled time came & went & nothing happened.
The only entry in the log file was for the one that I manually ran.
Here's the contents of batch file...
@echo off
echo %date% %time% %UserName% >> c:\MyBackup.log
C:\WINNT\system32\NTBACKUP.EXE backup "@C:\Documents and Settings\John
Doe\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows NT\NTBackup\data
\backupTest.bks" /a /d "Set created 1/17/2009 at 4:43 PM" /v:no /r:no /
rs:no /hcff /m normal /j "backupTest.job" /l:s /f "F:\Bob PC daily-
test.bkf"
echo Backup ended at %time% >> c:\MyBackup.log

=======================

Did you examine the file c:\MyBackup.log?
You must also inspect the Task Scheduler log file. It's under the Advanced
menu.
Does the account you use for the scheduled task have a password?


 
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