I have been using outlook for some time and realize that to do a backup I
have to quit outlook (not exchange server use) before I can backup the pst.
I like to do this every night, but sometimes I forget to shut outlook down
and the backup fails.

I have just got a mobile win 6 smartphone (blackjack II) and it has
installed active sync. Now I find that the backup does not run even when I
do close down outlook as I guess that the active sync app has control of the
pst.

I cannot find a way to shut down the active sync application, so how do I do
my nightly backup?

...steve

Might depend on the backup app being used;
In the past I have used a batchfile in my backup process to terminate apps,
prior to the backup process running, then restarting the app after the
backup has completed


"sghalliday" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:F41CF126-D36B-43E4-8E58-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have been using outlook for some time and realize that to do a backup I
> have to quit outlook (not exchange server use) before I can backup the
> pst.
> I like to do this every night, but sometimes I forget to shut outlook down
> and the backup fails.
>
> I have just got a mobile win 6 smartphone (blackjack II) and it has
> installed active sync. Now I find that the backup does not run even when
> I
> do close down outlook as I guess that the active sync app has control of
> the
> pst.
>
> I cannot find a way to shut down the active sync application, so how do I
> do
> my nightly backup?
>
> ..steve

I am willing to do that if someone can tell me how to shut down outlook and
active sync!

...steve

"DL" wrote:

> Might depend on the backup app being used;
> In the past I have used a batchfile in my backup process to terminate apps,
> prior to the backup process running, then restarting the app after the
> backup has completed
>
>
> "sghalliday" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:F41CF126-D36B-43E4-8E58-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I have been using outlook for some time and realize that to do a backup I
> > have to quit outlook (not exchange server use) before I can backup the
> > pst.
> > I like to do this every night, but sometimes I forget to shut outlook down
> > and the backup fails.
> >
> > I have just got a mobile win 6 smartphone (blackjack II) and it has
> > installed active sync. Now I find that the backup does not run even when
> > I
> > do close down outlook as I guess that the active sync app has control of
> > the
> > pst.
> >
> > I cannot find a way to shut down the active sync application, so how do I
> > do
> > my nightly backup?
> >
> > ..steve
>
>
>

Google is your friend; 'kill process'

"sghalliday" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:6CD2ED7E-D1DE-4415-9E30-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I am willing to do that if someone can tell me how to shut down outlook and
> active sync!
>
> ..steve
>
> "DL" wrote:
>
>> Might depend on the backup app being used;
>> In the past I have used a batchfile in my backup process to terminate
>> apps,
>> prior to the backup process running, then restarting the app after the
>> backup has completed
>>
>>
>> "sghalliday" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:F41CF126-D36B-43E4-8E58-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >I have been using outlook for some time and realize that to do a backup
>> >I
>> > have to quit outlook (not exchange server use) before I can backup the
>> > pst.
>> > I like to do this every night, but sometimes I forget to shut outlook
>> > down
>> > and the backup fails.
>> >
>> > I have just got a mobile win 6 smartphone (blackjack II) and it has
>> > installed active sync. Now I find that the backup does not run even
>> > when
>> > I
>> > do close down outlook as I guess that the active sync app has control
>> > of
>> > the
>> > pst.
>> >
>> > I cannot find a way to shut down the active sync application, so how do
>> > I
>> > do
>> > my nightly backup?
>> >
>> > ..steve
>>
>>
>>

Yes but if you kill the outlook process it damages the pst and it takes
forever to reload next time!!

...steve

"DL" wrote:

> Google is your friend; 'kill process'
>
> "sghalliday" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:6CD2ED7E-D1DE-4415-9E30-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I am willing to do that if someone can tell me how to shut down outlook and
> > active sync!
> >
> > ..steve
> >
> > "DL" wrote:
> >
> >> Might depend on the backup app being used;
> >> In the past I have used a batchfile in my backup process to terminate
> >> apps,
> >> prior to the backup process running, then restarting the app after the
> >> backup has completed
> >>
> >>
> >> "sghalliday" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:F41CF126-D36B-43E4-8E58-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >I have been using outlook for some time and realize that to do a backup
> >> >I
> >> > have to quit outlook (not exchange server use) before I can backup the
> >> > pst.
> >> > I like to do this every night, but sometimes I forget to shut outlook
> >> > down
> >> > and the backup fails.
> >> >
> >> > I have just got a mobile win 6 smartphone (blackjack II) and it has
> >> > installed active sync. Now I find that the backup does not run even
> >> > when
> >> > I
> >> > do close down outlook as I guess that the active sync app has control
> >> > of
> >> > the
> >> > pst.
> >> >
> >> > I cannot find a way to shut down the active sync application, so how do
> >> > I
> >> > do
> >> > my nightly backup?
> >> >
> >> > ..steve
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Other than remembering to correctly close OL at the end of the day, there's
no other method

"sghalliday" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:E3F02751-E2BF-4F6D-A92B-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Yes but if you kill the outlook process it damages the pst and it takes
> forever to reload next time!!
>
> ..steve
>
> "DL" wrote:
>
>> Google is your friend; 'kill process'
>>
>> "sghalliday" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:6CD2ED7E-D1DE-4415-9E30-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >I am willing to do that if someone can tell me how to shut down outlook
>> >and
>> > active sync!
>> >
>> > ..steve
>> >
>> > "DL" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Might depend on the backup app being used;
>> >> In the past I have used a batchfile in my backup process to terminate
>> >> apps,
>> >> prior to the backup process running, then restarting the app after the
>> >> backup has completed
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "sghalliday" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:F41CF126-D36B-43E4-8E58-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >I have been using outlook for some time and realize that to do a
>> >> >backup
>> >> >I
>> >> > have to quit outlook (not exchange server use) before I can backup
>> >> > the
>> >> > pst.
>> >> > I like to do this every night, but sometimes I forget to shut
>> >> > outlook
>> >> > down
>> >> > and the backup fails.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have just got a mobile win 6 smartphone (blackjack II) and it has
>> >> > installed active sync. Now I find that the backup does not run even
>> >> > when
>> >> > I
>> >> > do close down outlook as I guess that the active sync app has
>> >> > control
>> >> > of
>> >> > the
>> >> > pst.
>> >> >
>> >> > I cannot find a way to shut down the active sync application, so how
>> >> > do
>> >> > I
>> >> > do
>> >> > my nightly backup?
>> >> >
>> >> > ..steve
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Perhaps set a task reminder, to close OL?

"sghalliday" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:E3F02751-E2BF-4F6D-A92B-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Yes but if you kill the outlook process it damages the pst and it takes
> forever to reload next time!!
>
> ..steve
>
> "DL" wrote:
>
>> Google is your friend; 'kill process'
>>
>> "sghalliday" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:6CD2ED7E-D1DE-4415-9E30-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >I am willing to do that if someone can tell me how to shut down outlook
>> >and
>> > active sync!
>> >
>> > ..steve
>> >
>> > "DL" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Might depend on the backup app being used;
>> >> In the past I have used a batchfile in my backup process to terminate
>> >> apps,
>> >> prior to the backup process running, then restarting the app after the
>> >> backup has completed
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "sghalliday" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:F41CF126-D36B-43E4-8E58-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >I have been using outlook for some time and realize that to do a
>> >> >backup
>> >> >I
>> >> > have to quit outlook (not exchange server use) before I can backup
>> >> > the
>> >> > pst.
>> >> > I like to do this every night, but sometimes I forget to shut
>> >> > outlook
>> >> > down
>> >> > and the backup fails.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have just got a mobile win 6 smartphone (blackjack II) and it has
>> >> > installed active sync. Now I find that the backup does not run even
>> >> > when
>> >> > I
>> >> > do close down outlook as I guess that the active sync app has
>> >> > control
>> >> > of
>> >> > the
>> >> > pst.
>> >> >
>> >> > I cannot find a way to shut down the active sync application, so how
>> >> > do
>> >> > I
>> >> > do
>> >> > my nightly backup?
>> >> >
>> >> > ..steve
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

So after doing a lot of "playing" I may have solved the issue. You do have
to remember to close Outlook, that is a given, BUT the active sync problem is
something else. It only seems to have control over outlook if the phone is
plugged in. the backup will run if Outlook is closed aAND the phone is NOT
plugged in.

So I now need to remeber to unplug the phone from the sync when I shut down
for the night - something I never had to do when I ran a palm based phone.

Thanks for your hlp

...steve

"DL" wrote:

> Perhaps set a task reminder, to close OL?
>
> "sghalliday" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:E3F02751-E2BF-4F6D-A92B-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Yes but if you kill the outlook process it damages the pst and it takes
> > forever to reload next time!!
> >
> > ..steve
> >
> > "DL" wrote:
> >
> >> Google is your friend; 'kill process'
> >>
> >> "sghalliday" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:6CD2ED7E-D1DE-4415-9E30-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >I am willing to do that if someone can tell me how to shut down outlook
> >> >and
> >> > active sync!
> >> >
> >> > ..steve
> >> >
> >> > "DL" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Might depend on the backup app being used;
> >> >> In the past I have used a batchfile in my backup process to terminate
> >> >> apps,
> >> >> prior to the backup process running, then restarting the app after the
> >> >> backup has completed
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "sghalliday" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> >> news:F41CF126-D36B-43E4-8E58-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> >I have been using outlook for some time and realize that to do a
> >> >> >backup
> >> >> >I
> >> >> > have to quit outlook (not exchange server use) before I can backup
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > pst.
> >> >> > I like to do this every night, but sometimes I forget to shut
> >> >> > outlook
> >> >> > down
> >> >> > and the backup fails.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have just got a mobile win 6 smartphone (blackjack II) and it has
> >> >> > installed active sync. Now I find that the backup does not run even
> >> >> > when
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > do close down outlook as I guess that the active sync app has
> >> >> > control
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > pst.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I cannot find a way to shut down the active sync application, so how
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > my nightly backup?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ..steve
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Hello

I confirm that it isn't a good idea to kill Outlook
I recommend you to use the product BackupMyFolder! that allow you to
backup even if Outlook is open !
Go to http://www.addonmail.com/Products/BackupMyFolder.asp

Regards
Gilles