Hello. Further to a previous post, I have basically learnt a hard
lesson about backing up my data, so now my hard drive is being dealt
with my professionals, I'm looking to the future and how I will do my
backing up.

I want something that is convenient, but also offers good capacity as
my work data continues to grow in size. To that end, I've been looking
at either getting an external hard drive or looking for more "off-
site" methods. It's probably overkill, but if something were to happen
here at home it would be good to have a backup that is at a different
location.

To that end, finding a company that provides online storage space
could be a good solution as I could access my data even when I'm away
from home, it's "off-site" and it would be easy to automate a regular
backup using an FTP server. Are their any companies out there people
can recommend?

I estimate my data requirements would be about 10GB for now, but I
would like the option to allow this to grow. I would rather pay a flat
fee and get lots of space, rather the paying by the gigabyte, as this
just discourages making the backups in the first place.

Kind Regards,

Matt

Previously Matt <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Hello. Further to a previous post, I have basically learnt a hard
> lesson about backing up my data, so now my hard drive is being dealt
> with my professionals, I'm looking to the future and how I will do my
> backing up.

> I want something that is convenient, but also offers good capacity as
> my work data continues to grow in size. To that end, I've been looking
> at either getting an external hard drive or looking for more "off-
> site" methods. It's probably overkill, but if something were to happen
> here at home it would be good to have a backup that is at a different
> location.

> To that end, finding a company that provides online storage space
> could be a good solution as I could access my data even when I'm away
> from home, it's "off-site" and it would be easy to automate a regular
> backup using an FTP server. Are their any companies out there people
> can recommend?

I looked at this a year ago a,d the prices I found were astronomical.
I ended up getting a vserver, as it was cheaper that all the
offsite offers. Not that I now really use it for backup.

> I estimate my data requirements would be about 10GB for now, but I
> would like the option to allow this to grow. I would rather pay a flat
> fee and get lots of space, rather the paying by the gigabyte, as this
> just discourages making the backups in the first place.

For your backup size, possibly the best solution is to get at least
two 40-80GB external 2.5" drives and backup to them alternatingly.
Better use three disks in rotation.

Arno

Matt <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

> Hello. Further to a previous post, I have basically learnt a hard lesson
> about backing up my data, so now my hard drive is being dealt with my
> professionals, I'm looking to the future and how I will do my backing up.

> I want something that is convenient, but also offers good
> capacity as my work data continues to grow in size. To that
> end, I've been looking at either getting an external hard drive

Thats generally the best approach for most.

> or looking for more "off-site" methods.

How viable that is really depends on the volume of NEW data you
produce and how feasible it is for the backup system to just copy
the NEW data offsite, and whether you have broadband etc.

> It's probably overkill, but if something were to happen here at home
> it would be good to have a backup that is at a different location.

Yes, you do need to protect against fire, flood, theft etc, even
if thats done at a lower frequency than the normal backups.

> To that end, finding a company that provides online storage
> space could be a good solution as I could access my data
> even when I'm away from home, it's "off-site" and it would
> be easy to automate a regular backup using an FTP server.
> Are their any companies out there people can recommend?

You havent supplied enough data on the rate of
new data and what you have broadband wise etc.

> I estimate my data requirements would be about 10GB for now,

Do you really have that much data that is irreplaceable ?

> but I would like the option to allow this to grow. I would rather pay
> a flat fee and get lots of space, rather the paying by the gigabyte,
> as this just discourages making the backups in the first place.

Its not likely to be anything like as cheap as a DVD
burner and taking a DVD offsite occassionally.

Has your financial situation changed enough to be able to afford anything better than DVDs ?

"Matt" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3f83ffca-3642-4bb1-9a4c-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello. Further to a previous post, I have basically learnt a hard
> lesson about backing up my data, so now my hard drive is being dealt
> with my professionals, I'm looking to the future and how I will do my
> backing up.
>
> I want something that is convenient, but also offers good capacity as
> my work data continues to grow in size. To that end, I've been looking
> at either getting an external hard drive or looking for more "off-
> site" methods. It's probably overkill, but if something were to happen
> here at home it would be good to have a backup that is at a different
> location.
>
> To that end, finding a company that provides online storage space
> could be a good solution as I could access my data even when I'm away
> from home, it's "off-site" and it would be easy to automate a regular
> backup using an FTP server. Are their any companies out there people
> can recommend?
>
> I estimate my data requirements would be about 10GB for now, but I
> would like the option to allow this to grow. I would rather pay a flat
> fee and get lots of space, rather the paying by the gigabyte, as this
> just discourages making the backups in the first place.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Matt

For convenience and to guard against data loss due to hard drive failure as
you experienced, you need a frequent automated backup to either another
drive within your PC or an atttached USB type hard drive or DVD writer. I
like having a second internal hard drive with daily data backups scheduled.
Then there's another protection that you want against data loss due to fire,
flood etc. destroying your computer. That could be anything from a small
portable 2.5" drive to even a flash drive - Newegg has 16 GB USB flash
drives as low as $55. The latter you could keep around your neck on a
lanyard so you'd always have your data with you. It would be up to you as to
how often to back that up - maybe every week would suffice. IMHO, your risk
of data loss is far greater from hard drive failure than from some external
hazard.

On Apr 1, 3:17*am, "iws" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> "Matt" <matt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3f83ffca-3642-4bb1-9a4c-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello. Further to a previous post, I have basically learnt a hard
> > lesson about backing up my data, so now my hard drive is being dealt
> > with my professionals, I'm looking to the future and how I will do my
> > backing up.
>
> > I want something that is convenient, but also offers good capacity as
> > my work data continues to grow in size. To that end, I've been looking
> > at either getting an external hard drive or looking for more "off-
> > site" methods. It's probably overkill, but if something were to happen
> > here at home it would be good to have a backup that is at a different
> > location.
>
> > To that end, finding a company that provides online storage space
> > could be a good solution as I could access my data even when I'm away
> > from home, it's "off-site" and it would be easy to automate a regular
> > backup using an FTP server. Are their any companies out there people
> > can recommend?
>
> > I estimate my data requirements would be about 10GB for now, but I
> > would like the option to allow this to grow. I would rather pay a flat
> > fee and get lots of space, rather the paying by the gigabyte, as this
> > just discourages making the backups in the first place.
>
> > Kind Regards,
>
> > Matt
>
> For convenience and to guard against data loss due to hard drive failure as
> you experienced, you need a frequent automated backup to either another
> drive within your PC or an atttached USB type hard drive or DVD writer. I
> like having a second internal hard drive with daily data backups scheduled..
> Then there's another protection that you want against data loss due to fire,
> flood etc. destroying your computer. That could be anything from a small
> portable 2.5" drive to even a flash drive - Newegg has 16 GB USB flash
> drives as low as $55. The latter you could keep around your neck on a
> lanyard so you'd always have your data with you. It would be up to you as to
> how often to back that up - maybe every week would suffice. IMHO, your risk
> of data loss is far greater from hard drive failure than from some external
> hazard.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Over broadband, I use www.carbonite.com for $50 a year, and it has
unlimited backup capacity. It is automatic. All files are backed up
either within minutes, or within 24 hours if they are being edited
every 10 minutes. The worst one will loose is 24 hours work, and not
4 years

I've just renewed my contract after 12 months, as I am happy with it.
I have used it to access my data from another computer, but this is
not the easiest method.

Norton 360 (an maybe other ones) have 10GB backup, but this is not as
seamless as Carbonite.

I think there are other packages, but have not investigated in the
past 12 months.

I also have local physical backup, and copying critical files to
different PCs on my local network.


Michael
www.cnwrecovery.com

Previously (E-Mail Removed) <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> On Apr 1, 3:17*am, "iws" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> "Matt" <matt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:3f83ffca-3642-4bb1-9a4c-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hello. Further to a previous post, I have basically learnt a hard
>> > lesson about backing up my data, so now my hard drive is being dealt
>> > with my professionals, I'm looking to the future and how I will do my
>> > backing up.
>>
>> > I want something that is convenient, but also offers good capacity as
>> > my work data continues to grow in size. To that end, I've been looking
>> > at either getting an external hard drive or looking for more "off-
>> > site" methods. It's probably overkill, but if something were to happen
>> > here at home it would be good to have a backup that is at a different
>> > location.
>>
>> > To that end, finding a company that provides online storage space
>> > could be a good solution as I could access my data even when I'm away
>> > from home, it's "off-site" and it would be easy to automate a regular
>> > backup using an FTP server. Are their any companies out there people
>> > can recommend?
>>
>> > I estimate my data requirements would be about 10GB for now, but I
>> > would like the option to allow this to grow. I would rather pay a flat
>> > fee and get lots of space, rather the paying by the gigabyte, as this
>> > just discourages making the backups in the first place.
>>
>> > Kind Regards,
>>
>> > Matt
>>
>> For convenience and to guard against data loss due to hard drive failure as
>> you experienced, you need a frequent automated backup to either another
>> drive within your PC or an atttached USB type hard drive or DVD writer. I
>> like having a second internal hard drive with daily data backups scheduled.
>> Then there's another protection that you want against data loss due to fire,
>> flood etc. destroying your computer. That could be anything from a small
>> portable 2.5" drive to even a flash drive - Newegg has 16 GB USB flash
>> drives as low as $55. The latter you could keep around your neck on a
>> lanyard so you'd always have your data with you. It would be up to you as to
>> how often to back that up - maybe every week would suffice. IMHO, your risk
>> of data loss is far greater from hard drive failure than from some external
>> hazard.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

> Over broadband, I use www.carbonite.com for $50 a year, and it has
> unlimited backup capacity. It is automatic. All files are backed up
> either within minutes, or within 24 hours if they are being edited
> every 10 minutes. The worst one will loose is 24 hours work, and not
> 4 years

> I've just renewed my contract after 12 months, as I am happy with it.
> I have used it to access my data from another computer, but this is
> not the easiest method.

> Norton 360 (an maybe other ones) have 10GB backup, but this is not as
> seamless as Carbonite.

> I think there are other packages, but have not investigated in the
> past 12 months.

> I also have local physical backup, and copying critical files to
> different PCs on my local network.

If you trust Carbonite (and you have to, despite their claims
of encryption, after all it is their software doing the encryption),
and you only need backups under Windows, it looks like a good deal.

Arno

On Apr 1, 12:57*pm, Arno Wagner <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> Previously mscotgr...@aol.com <mscotgr...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 1, 3:17*am, "iws" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> "Matt" <matt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:3f83ffca-3642-4bb1-9a4c-(E-Mail Removed)....
>
> >> > Hello. Further to a previous post, I have basically learnt a hard
> >> > lesson about backing up my data, so now my hard drive is being dealt
> >> > with my professionals, I'm looking to the future and how I will do my
> >> > backing up.
>
> >> > I want something that is convenient, but also offers good capacity as
> >> > my work data continues to grow in size. To that end, I've been looking
> >> > at either getting an external hard drive or looking for more "off-
> >> > site" methods. It's probably overkill, but if something were to happen
> >> > here at home it would be good to have a backup that is at a different
> >> > location.
>
> >> > To that end, finding a company that provides online storage space
> >> > could be a good solution as I could access my data even when I'm away
> >> > from home, it's "off-site" and it would be easy to automate a regular
> >> > backup using an FTP server. Are their any companies out there people
> >> > can recommend?
>
> >> > I estimate my data requirements would be about 10GB for now, but I
> >> > would like the option to allow this to grow. I would rather pay a flat
> >> > fee and get lots of space, rather the paying by the gigabyte, as this
> >> > just discourages making the backups in the first place.
>
> >> > Kind Regards,
>
> >> > Matt
>
> >> For convenience and to guard against data loss due to hard drive failure as
> >> you experienced, you need a frequent automated backup to either another
> >> drive within your PC or an atttached USB type hard drive or DVD writer.I
> >> like having a second internal hard drive with daily data backups scheduled.
> >> Then there's another protection that you want against data loss due to fire,
> >> flood etc. destroying your computer. That could be anything from a small
> >> portable 2.5" drive to even a flash drive - Newegg has 16 GB USB flash
> >> drives as low as $55. The latter you could keep around your neck on a
> >> lanyard so you'd always have your data with you. It would be up to you as to
> >> how often to back that up - maybe every week would suffice. IMHO, your risk
> >> of data loss is far greater from hard drive failure than from some external
> >> hazard.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
> > Over broadband, I usewww.carbonite.com* for $50 a year, and it has
> > unlimited backup capacity. *It is automatic. *All files are backed up
> > either within minutes, or within 24 hours if they are being edited
> > every 10 minutes. *The worst one will loose is 24 hours work, and not
> > 4 years
> > I've just renewed my contract after 12 months, as I am happy with it.
> > I have used it to access my data from another computer, but this is
> > not the easiest method.
> > Norton 360 (an maybe other ones) have 10GB backup, but this is not as
> > seamless as Carbonite.
> > I think there are other packages, but have not investigated in the
> > past 12 months.
> > I also have local physical backup, and copying critical files to
> > different PCs on my local network.
>
> If you trust Carbonite (and you have to, despite their claims
> of encryption, after all it is their software doing the encryption),
> and you only need backups under Windows, it looks like a good deal.
>
> Arno- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

If you are really worried about security, you can encrypt your files
first. It would be an extra stage, but if really worried/concerned/
paronoid, very possible. Carbonite only backs up files / directories
you want to to.

Personally, I am the only person interested in my (excellent) holiday
photos.

Michael

Previously (E-Mail Removed) <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> On Apr 1, 12:57*pm, Arno Wagner <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> Previously mscotgr...@aol.com <mscotgr...@aol.com> wrote:
>> > On Apr 1, 3:17*am, "iws" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >> "Matt" <matt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
[...]
>> If you trust Carbonite (and you have to, despite their claims
>> of encryption, after all it is their software doing the encryption),
>> and you only need backups under Windows, it looks like a good deal.
>>
>> Arno- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

> If you are really worried about security, you can encrypt your files
> first. It would be an extra stage, but if really worried/concerned/
> paronoid, very possible. Carbonite only backs up files / directories
> you want to to.

> Personally, I am the only person interested in my (excellent) holiday
> photos.

Well, for the really paranoid, this is again not enough, since you
are running their software on your system. For ordinary paranoia
levels, you approach should work well.

Arno

Arno Wagner <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Previously (E-Mail Removed) <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> On Apr 1, 12:57 pm, Arno Wagner <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>> Previously mscotgr...@aol.com <mscotgr...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 1, 3:17 am, "iws" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Matt" <matt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> [...]
>>> If you trust Carbonite (and you have to, despite their claims
>>> of encryption, after all it is their software doing the encryption),
>>> and you only need backups under Windows, it looks like a good deal.
>>>
>>> Arno- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>
>> If you are really worried about security, you can encrypt your files
>> first. It would be an extra stage, but if really worried/concerned/
>> paronoid, very possible. Carbonite only backs up files / directories
>> you want to to.
>
>> Personally, I am the only person interested in my (excellent) holiday
>> photos.

> Well, for the really paranoid, this is again not enough,
> since you are running their software on your system.

Its easy to ensure that it cant do anything that matters to the system its run on.

> For ordinary paranoia levels, you approach should work well.

And for the ultra paranoia too.

Previously sam <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Arno Wagner <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Previously (E-Mail Removed) <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>> On Apr 1, 12:57 pm, Arno Wagner <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>> Previously mscotgr...@aol.com <mscotgr...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 1, 3:17 am, "iws" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Matt" <matt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> [...]
>>>> If you trust Carbonite (and you have to, despite their claims
>>>> of encryption, after all it is their software doing the encryption),
>>>> and you only need backups under Windows, it looks like a good deal.
>>>>
>>>> Arno- Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>> If you are really worried about security, you can encrypt your files
>>> first. It would be an extra stage, but if really worried/concerned/
>>> paronoid, very possible. Carbonite only backs up files / directories
>>> you want to to.
>>
>>> Personally, I am the only person interested in my (excellent) holiday
>>> photos.

>> Well, for the really paranoid, this is again not enough,
>> since you are running their software on your system.

> Its easy to ensure that it cant do anything that matters to the
> system its run on.

I don't think so. Local attacks that allow privilege elevation
are notoriously easy on Windows. And even if you put it into
a virtual machine, there have been vulnerabilities, that
allowed breaking out.

>> For ordinary paranoia levels, you approach should work well.

> And for the ultra paranoia too.

Definitely not.

Arno