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      25th Jan 2005
Using FP 2003. At the page properties \ formatting tab I have checked the
"make it a watermark" box. However the image does not become
semi-transparent.

Any help would be appreicated.
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Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage
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      25th Jan 2005
I believe in that context watermark means it either doesn't scroll or that
it doesn't tile.
It's not like a watermark on paper. you'd have to make it look
semi-transparent with your image editor.

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"TAV" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Using FP 2003. At the page properties \ formatting tab I have checked the
> "make it a watermark" box. However the image does not become
> semi-transparent.
>
> Any help would be appreicated.
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> Thank you.
> TAV



 
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Thomas A. Rowe
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      25th Jan 2005
You can't make a JPG image transparent.

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"TAV" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:AB1C7123-2FC9-4558-B841-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Using FP 2003. At the page properties \ formatting tab I have checked the
> "make it a watermark" box. However the image does not become
> semi-transparent.
>
> Any help would be appreicated.
> --
> Thank you.
> TAV



 
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E. T. Culling
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      25th Jan 2005
Try de-saturating your image to give it a 'transparent' look.
Eleanor

"Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:ee5$(E-Mail Removed)...
>I believe in that context watermark means it either doesn't scroll or that
> it doesn't tile.
> It's not like a watermark on paper. you'd have to make it look
> semi-transparent with your image editor.
>
> HTH
>
> --
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> Microsoft MVP-FrontPage
>
> ContentSeed: great tool for web masters,
> a fantastic convenience for site owners.
> http://contentseed.com/
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> "TAV" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:AB1C7123-2FC9-4558-B841-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Using FP 2003. At the page properties \ formatting tab I have checked the
>> "make it a watermark" box. However the image does not become
>> semi-transparent.
>>
>> Any help would be appreicated.
>> --
>> Thank you.
>> TAV

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Trevor L.
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      25th Jan 2005
Well, as Eleanor said you can use a picture editor to lighten the colour as
much as you like. I had a background picture like this (nearly transparent)
on my Home Page (well all pages actually) but it took to long to load.

I enquired via this Newsgroup as to ways to reduce the size of the picture
(in KB) but it still took quite a lot, so I deleted it and stuck with a
plain background.

I also tried preloading the picture using Javascript, but I am not sure that
made a lot of difference - either that or my JS didn't work
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      25th Jan 2005
You can really optimize a washed out image a lot, you may not have gone far enough.

"Trevor L." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Well, as Eleanor said you can use a picture editor to lighten the colour as
> much as you like. I had a background picture like this (nearly transparent)
> on my Home Page (well all pages actually) but it took to long to load.
>
> I enquired via this Newsgroup as to ways to reduce the size of the picture
> (in KB) but it still took quite a lot, so I deleted it and stuck with a
> plain background.
>
> I also tried preloading the picture using Javascript, but I am not sure that
> made a lot of difference - either that or my JS didn't work
> --
> Cheers,
> Trevor L.
>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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Trevor L.
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      25th Jan 2005
Thanks Rob,

URL http://tandcl.homemail.com.au/

I have tried washing out my background image and reinstated it on the
website. The file is now 162KB. Is this small enough?

It still seems to take a while to load.

Also, every time I switch to another page on the same site, all files appear
to download again (as shown on the IE status bar).

I have inserted javascript into the code for each html that uses images (at
least I think I have found all.)
It is code such as this (e.g. in
http://tandcl.homemail.com.au/index_top.html)
<head>
......
<script type="text/javascript">
if (document.images)
{a = new Image()
a.src = "images/04-08-24 1 Bird bath.jpg"
b = new Image()
b.src = "images/parchmnt.gif"
c = new Image()
c.src = "images/trevor_small.jpg"
d = new Image()
d.src = "images/carole_small.jpg"
}
</script>
......
</head>

Should this not download the image files?
If so, why does the download repeat every time?
Doesn't the system know whether the files are cached?
Should I only insert this code once (in the Home Page)?

Also, if I can get this sorted out so that I only download once, can the
code be made simpler?
e.g. can a,b,c,... be made an image array if such an animal exists?
Along the lines
Cached_imgs = new Image Array()
Cached_imgs[0].src = "images/04-08-24 1 Bird bath.jpg"
Cached_imgs[1].src = "images/parchmnt.gif"
....

OR
Cached_imgs = new Image Array("images/04-08-24 1 Bird bath.jpg" ,
"images/parchmnt.gif" , .....)

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Ronx
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      25th Jan 2005
You are re-loading the entire frameset in a new window with each link.
Name your frames, then in the contents page, change target="_blank" to
target="mainframename"

At 162K, your background image is extremely large.
A home page, complete with CSS, JavaScript, images, frame pages, frameset
page, should not be more than about 60K in total - about 15-20 seconds
download time on dialup. Yours totals 290K - a tad on the large side.

Finally, remove all spaces from file and folder names, spaces will break
links in some browsers.
And Firefox will not display the background image as a background.

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"Trevor L." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks Rob,
>
> URL http://tandcl.homemail.com.au/
>
> I have tried washing out my background image and reinstated it on the
> website. The file is now 162KB. Is this small enough?
>
> It still seems to take a while to load.
>
> Also, every time I switch to another page on the same site, all files
> appear to download again (as shown on the IE status bar).
>
> I have inserted javascript into the code for each html that uses images
> (at least I think I have found all.)
> It is code such as this (e.g. in
> http://tandcl.homemail.com.au/index_top.html)
> <head>
> .....
> <script type="text/javascript">
> if (document.images)
> {a = new Image()
> a.src = "images/04-08-24 1 Bird bath.jpg"
> b = new Image()
> b.src = "images/parchmnt.gif"
> c = new Image()
> c.src = "images/trevor_small.jpg"
> d = new Image()
> d.src = "images/carole_small.jpg"
> }
> </script>
> .....
> </head>
>
> Should this not download the image files?
> If so, why does the download repeat every time?
> Doesn't the system know whether the files are cached?
> Should I only insert this code once (in the Home Page)?
>
> Also, if I can get this sorted out so that I only download once, can the
> code be made simpler?
> e.g. can a,b,c,... be made an image array if such an animal exists?
> Along the lines
> Cached_imgs = new Image Array()
> Cached_imgs[0].src = "images/04-08-24 1 Bird bath.jpg"
> Cached_imgs[1].src = "images/parchmnt.gif"
> ...
>
> OR
> Cached_imgs = new Image Array("images/04-08-24 1 Bird bath.jpg" ,
> "images/parchmnt.gif" , .....)
>
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> Many Thanks,
> Trevor L.
>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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Trevor L.
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      26th Jan 2005
Ron,
I am not sure whether I have fixed what you covered in Para 1.

Please have a look at index.html. In sidebar.html, I have loaded all other
html files with target "index". This works, but I am fairly sure all the
loading of images occurs again. This is what I want to avoid.

I have removed the background image as I don't know how to reduce its size
any more. In Irfanview, I reduced the colour depth to 8BPP but this actually
increased the file size to 412KB, so I didn't transfer it.

I have replaced blanks with dashes in file names
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Stefan B Rusynko
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      26th Jan 2005
Your main right frameset name is "index_main" not target="index"
By setting your target in the left frame to target="index" you are reopening a new frameset for each page
- defeats the whole purpose of using frames
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"Trevor L." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| Ron,
| I am not sure whether I have fixed what you covered in Para 1.
|
| Please have a look at index.html. In sidebar.html, I have loaded all other
| html files with target "index". This works, but I am fairly sure all the
| loading of images occurs again. This is what I want to avoid.
|
| I have removed the background image as I don't know how to reduce its size
| any more. In Irfanview, I reduced the colour depth to 8BPP but this actually
| increased the file size to 412KB, so I didn't transfer it.
|
| I have replaced blanks with dashes in file names
| --
| Thanks,
| Trevor L.
|
|
|
| I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
| http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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|


 
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