It was Veteran's day and I had the day off from work. My 1 1/2 year
old son was harmlessly fiddling with the buttons on our printer while
I was on the computer doing a quick check of email and what-not, when
all of a sudden the computer went off. I look down and see my son's
hands had moved from the printer to the power button of the surge
protector. He turned it off. No big deal, I thought. Turned the surge
protector back on. Attempted to turn the computer back on and nothing.
Tried different outlets, nothing. Held the PC's power button in for a
few, nothing.

I went to the local PC shop and bought a new PSU, swapped the new for
the one in my PC, nothing. No power. No lights. Nothing. Returned the
new PSU to the shop.

Replaced my old PSU, took the battery out of the motherboard to reset
the CMOS, still nothing.

Now maybe I should have reset the CMOS with the new PSU in place,
because my old PSU could be fried too. Oh well.

So does anyone think my MB is dead?

Also, why would simply turning the surge protector off fry the MB?

Finally, could the shortage have spread and killed my RAM and HDD ?

The Amateur wrote:
> It was Veteran's day and I had the day off from work. My 1 1/2 year
> old son was harmlessly fiddling with the buttons on our printer while
> I was on the computer doing a quick check of email and what-not, when
> all of a sudden the computer went off. I look down and see my son's
> hands had moved from the printer to the power button of the surge
> protector. He turned it off. No big deal, I thought. Turned the surge
> protector back on. Attempted to turn the computer back on and nothing.
> Tried different outlets, nothing. Held the PC's power button in for a
> few, nothing.
>
> I went to the local PC shop and bought a new PSU, swapped the new for
> the one in my PC, nothing. No power. No lights. Nothing. Returned the
> new PSU to the shop.
>
> Replaced my old PSU, took the battery out of the motherboard to reset
> the CMOS, still nothing.
>
> Now maybe I should have reset the CMOS with the new PSU in place,
> because my old PSU could be fried too. Oh well.
>
> So does anyone think my MB is dead?
>
> Also, why would simply turning the surge protector off fry the MB?
>
> Finally, could the shortage have spread and killed my RAM and HDD ?
>

Have you been doing all of the tests, using that surge protector ?

Maybe the surge protector is bad. Try plugging directly into
some other outlet.

Paul

And this is what my system basically consists of:

E6420
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R
2 GB's Crucial 800 RAM
Corsair 520HX PSU
Evga 7600GT
150gb Seagate Barracuda 7200.10
DVD R/W

On Nov 13, 9:41*am, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> The Amateur wrote:
> > It was Veteran's day and I had the day off from work. My 1 1/2 year
> > old son was harmlessly fiddling with the buttons on our printer while
> > I was on the computer doing a quick check of email and what-not, when
> > all of a sudden the computer went off. I look down and see my son's
> > hands had moved from the printer to the power button of the surge
> > protector. He turned it off. No big deal, I thought. Turned the surge
> > protector back on. Attempted to turn the computer back on and nothing.
> > Tried different outlets, nothing. Held the PC's power button in for a
> > few, nothing.
>
> > I went to the local PC shop and bought a new PSU, swapped the new for
> > the one in my PC, nothing. No power. No lights. Nothing. Returned the
> > new PSU to the shop.
>
> > Replaced my old PSU, took the battery out of the motherboard to reset
> > the CMOS, still nothing.
>
> > Now maybe I should have reset the CMOS with the new PSU in place,
> > because my old PSU could be fried too. Oh well.
>
> > So does anyone think my MB is dead?
>
> > Also, why would simply turning the surge protector off fry the MB?
>
> > Finally, could the shortage have spread and killed my RAM and HDD ?
>
> Have you been doing all of the tests, using that surge protector ?
>
> Maybe the surge protector is bad. Try plugging directly into
> some other outlet.
>
> * * Paul- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yeah I've moved the PC to different outlets without using the surge
protector.

pull a stick of memory out..and / or reseat all your hardware back in their respective
slots.

Use the old 1st thing to do:
Strip it down to a 'POST'- minimum and try to POST..if it will, then try and boot from
the hard drive


"The Amateur" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:7a143a09-8133-4cff-8486-(E-Mail Removed)...
> And this is what my system basically consists of:
>
> E6420
> Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R
> 2 GB's Crucial 800 RAM
> Corsair 520HX PSU
> Evga 7600GT
> 150gb Seagate Barracuda 7200.10
> DVD R/W

"The Amateur" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:b3c84889-9408-4bf5-8143-(E-Mail Removed)...
On Nov 13, 9:41 am, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> The Amateur wrote:
> > It was Veteran's day and I had the day off from work. My 1 1/2 year
> > old son was harmlessly fiddling with the buttons on our printer while
> > I was on the computer doing a quick check of email and what-not, when
> > all of a sudden the computer went off. I look down and see my son's
> > hands had moved from the printer to the power button of the surge
> > protector. He turned it off. No big deal, I thought. Turned the surge
> > protector back on. Attempted to turn the computer back on and nothing.
> > Tried different outlets, nothing. Held the PC's power button in for a
> > few, nothing.
>
> > I went to the local PC shop and bought a new PSU, swapped the new for
> > the one in my PC, nothing. No power. No lights. Nothing. Returned the
> > new PSU to the shop.
>
> > Replaced my old PSU, took the battery out of the motherboard to reset
> > the CMOS, still nothing.
>
> > Now maybe I should have reset the CMOS with the new PSU in place,
> > because my old PSU could be fried too. Oh well.
>
> > So does anyone think my MB is dead?
>
> > Also, why would simply turning the surge protector off fry the MB?
>
> > Finally, could the shortage have spread and killed my RAM and HDD ?
>
> Have you been doing all of the tests, using that surge protector ?
>
> Maybe the surge protector is bad. Try plugging directly into
> some other outlet.
>
> Paul- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yeah I've moved the PC to different outlets without using the surge
protector.

I would try this:
Remove the power supply, plug it in, jumper the pins to power it on
http://www.hardwarebook.info/ATX_Power_Supply
If the PS fan spins I would then shut it off with the rocker switch, connect
the molex to the hard drive, power it back on to see if the hard drive
works. (you could also test the PS with a multimeter at this point).
If the hard drive spins then I would put it back into the box and make all
the connections, then jumper the case switch leads on the mainboard. You
want to eliminate the case switch as a problem.
If the case switch does not seem to be a problem, then I would disconnect
everything from the motherboard including the video card, remove the memory,
and with only the processor in, turn the system on. See if the motherboard
power light comes on. You should get a bios beep code saying memory failure.
If the system starts (power light on, bios beeping) then start to add the
components back one at a time (one stick of memory, then the other). After
memory add the video card and see if the bios screen shows up. Then the hard
drive.
If all fails at the beginning then the motherboard is very possibly gone. If
not you will eventually get to the fried component.

Depands on what the surge protector does... and what happens when its turned
off...

Does electricity still flow when it's off ?

Then if yes... the surge protector would function as a water-dam holding the
water in the river and only letting a little bit through...

Then when it's turned off it is like a dam-break... all the water comes
rushing down and kills anything in it's path

At least that's my theory !

Love your baby ! =D

Lessons learned for you and me and all of us: Never let babies play near
buttons or electrical devices !

Bye,
Skybuck.

Also another good reason to place your PC on a desk instead of on the ground
?!?

I reckon the baby was crawling over the ground !

Dusty there too !

Next time it might be a rat !

Or a cat !

Or a dog !

Bye,
Skybuck.

On Nov 13, 1:33*pm, glenz...@nospam.xmission.com (GMAN) wrote:
> In article <76195$491c675f$541981e1$21...@cache3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>, "Skybuck Flying" <BloodySh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Depands on what the surge protector does... and what happens when its turned
> >off...
>
> >Does electricity still flow when it's off ?
>
> >Then if yes... the surge protector would function as a water-dam holdingthe
> >water in the river and only letting a little bit through...
>
> >Then when it's turned off it is like a dam-break... all the water comes
> >rushing down and kills anything in it's path
>
> >At least that's my theory !
>
> >Love your baby ! =D
>
> >Lessons learned for you and me and all of us: Never let babies play near
> >buttons or electrical devices !
>
> >Bye,
> > *Skybuck.
>
> Skybuck is damn right!!!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

haha he sure is!

He was next to me, like I said, where I could see him, and a split
second, like they always say, he was near the wall pushing on the
button. And I'm very good with watching him - we have all those
plastic outlet covers so he can't stick his fingers in and the outlets
not used on the surge protector are also covered.

Just one of those freak things.

On Nov 13, 12:31*pm, "TVeblen" <killtherob...@hal.net> wrote:
> "The Amateur" <mor...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b3c84889-9408-4bf5-8143-(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Nov 13, 9:41 am, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > The Amateur wrote:
> > > It was Veteran's day and I had the day off from work. My 1 1/2 year
> > > old son was harmlessly fiddling with the buttons on our printer while
> > > I was on the computer doing a quick check of email and what-not, when
> > > all of a sudden the computer went off. I look down and see my son's
> > > hands had moved from the printer to the power button of the surge
> > > protector. He turned it off. No big deal, I thought. Turned the surge
> > > protector back on. Attempted to turn the computer back on and nothing..
> > > Tried different outlets, nothing. Held the PC's power button in for a
> > > few, nothing.
>
> > > I went to the local PC shop and bought a new PSU, swapped the new for
> > > the one in my PC, nothing. No power. No lights. Nothing. Returned the
> > > new PSU to the shop.
>
> > > Replaced my old PSU, took the battery out of the motherboard to reset
> > > the CMOS, still nothing.
>
> > > Now maybe I should have reset the CMOS with the new PSU in place,
> > > because my old PSU could be fried too. Oh well.
>
> > > So does anyone think my MB is dead?
>
> > > Also, why would simply turning the surge protector off fry the MB?
>
> > > Finally, could the shortage have spread and killed my RAM and HDD ?
>
> > Have you been doing all of the tests, using that surge protector ?
>
> > Maybe the surge protector is bad. Try plugging directly into
> > some other outlet.
>
> > Paul- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Yeah I've moved the PC to different outlets without using the surge
> protector.
>
> I would try this:
> Remove the power supply, plug it in, jumper the pins to power it onhttp://www.hardwarebook.info/ATX_Power_Supply
> If the PS fan spins I would then shut it off with the rocker switch, connect
> the molex to the hard drive, power it back on to see if the hard drive
> works. (you could also test the PS with a multimeter at this point).
> If the hard drive spins then I would put it back into the box and make all
> the connections, then jumper the case switch leads on the mainboard. You
> want to eliminate the case switch as a problem.
> If the case switch does not seem to be a problem, then I would disconnect
> everything from the motherboard including the video card, remove the memory,
> and with only the processor in, turn the system on. See if the motherboard
> power light comes on. You should get a bios beep code saying memory failure.
> If the system starts (power light on, bios beeping) then start to add the
> components back one at a time (one stick of memory, then the other). After
> memory add the video card and see if the bios screen shows up. Then the hard
> drive.
> If all fails at the beginning then the motherboard is very possibly gone.If
> not you will eventually get to the fried component.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Great, thanks for the info! Much appreciated! I will try these steps
tonight.