My ancient NEC Silentwriter 95 that worked with no complaints for 14-15
years just died (motor gone) and I therefore need another laser printer. My
requirements are low per/page cost and maintenance. This is for home use but
occasionally I will print a 100 page document. I do not have a set price
range but because this is for home use I do not wish to spend many hundreds
of dollars.

I would appreciate suggestions and remarks concerning speed, noise and
durability. Networking is not a priority.

Thanks


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Jeff Stevens
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Jeff wrote:
> My ancient NEC Silentwriter 95 that worked with no complaints for
> 14-15 years just died (motor gone) and I therefore need another laser
> printer. My requirements are low per/page cost and maintenance. This
> is for home use but occasionally I will print a 100 page document. I
> do not have a set price range but because this is for home use I do
> not wish to spend many hundreds of dollars.
>
> I would appreciate suggestions and remarks concerning speed, noise and
> durability. Networking is not a priority.
>
> Thanks

I forgot to add, paper handling has to be good.

Thanks


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Jeff Stevens
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"Jeff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Jeff wrote:
>> My ancient NEC Silentwriter 95 that worked with no complaints for
>> 14-15 years just died (motor gone) and I therefore need another laser
>> printer. My requirements are low per/page cost and maintenance. This
>> is for home use but occasionally I will print a 100 page document. I
>> do not have a set price range but because this is for home use I do
>> not wish to spend many hundreds of dollars.
>>
>> I would appreciate suggestions and remarks concerning speed, noise and
>> durability. Networking is not a priority.
>>
>> Thanks
>
>I forgot to add, paper handling has to be good.
>
>Thanks

I just went through the same process. My criteria were about the same
as yours. I was looking for something under a hundred bucks that
preferably had a 250 page paper tray, was reasonably fast, without a
lot of complaints about jamming, and would be easy to refill. After
reading a lot of reviews, I pretty much tilted toward a Samsung,
Brother, or HP, and wound up buying a Brother HL-2040, which was $90
after a $30 rebate -- delivered free from Office Max, but only if you
live in the "trade area" of one of their stores. It's half the size of
my previous Canon inkjet, makes zero noise when it's in the sleep mode
waiting to print, and is typical laser noisy when it's actually
printing. On the minus side, all the cheaper lasers seem to curl paper
a bit, although I think it can be minimized by buying the right paper,
I've seen lots of complaints about envelope feeding -- and they can be
expensive to operate if you buy the manufacturer's toner or drums.

A convenient place to find to find rebate deals is salescircular.com.
The new stuff is published Sunday mornings.

> I forgot to add, paper handling has to be good.

In my experience, the Epson printers are the best.

El Castor wrote:
> "Jeff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Jeff wrote:
>>> My ancient NEC Silentwriter 95 that worked with no complaints for
>>> 14-15 years just died (motor gone) and I therefore need another
>>> laser printer. My requirements are low per/page cost and
>>> maintenance. This is for home use but occasionally I will print a
>>> 100 page document. I do not have a set price range but because this
>>> is for home use I do not wish to spend many hundreds of dollars.
>>>
>>> I would appreciate suggestions and remarks concerning speed, noise
>>> and durability. Networking is not a priority.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>> I forgot to add, paper handling has to be good.
>>
>> Thanks
>
> I just went through the same process. My criteria were about the same
> as yours. I was looking for something under a hundred bucks that
> preferably had a 250 page paper tray, was reasonably fast, without a
> lot of complaints about jamming, and would be easy to refill. After
> reading a lot of reviews, I pretty much tilted toward a Samsung,
> Brother, or HP, and wound up buying a Brother HL-2040, which was $90
> after a $30 rebate -- delivered free from Office Max, but only if you
> live in the "trade area" of one of their stores. It's half the size of
> my previous Canon inkjet, makes zero noise when it's in the sleep mode
> waiting to print, and is typical laser noisy when it's actually
> printing. On the minus side, all the cheaper lasers seem to curl paper
> a bit, although I think it can be minimized by buying the right paper,
> I've seen lots of complaints about envelope feeding -- and they can be
> expensive to operate if you buy the manufacturer's toner or drums.
>
> A convenient place to find to find rebate deals is salescircular.com.
> The new stuff is published Sunday mornings.

Thank you. Did you find out what the replacement toner would cost or its
cost per page?

Jeff

Jeff <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

: My ancient NEC Silentwriter 95 that worked with no complaints for 14-15
: years just died (motor gone) and I therefore need another laser printer. My
: requirements are low per/page cost and maintenance. This is for home use but
: occasionally I will print a 100 page document. I do not have a set price
: range but because this is for home use I do not wish to spend many hundreds
: of dollars.
:
: I would appreciate suggestions and remarks concerning speed, noise and
: durability. Networking is not a priority.
:
: Thanks

I am in a similar search. Look at Brother 5240. About 30 pages per
minute. However, an extra $20 gets us duplexing AND neworking model
5250DN, so I am thinking why not?

I would still read what others say, but going by paper specs these
Brothers seem hard to beat.

"Jeff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>El Castor wrote:
>> "Jeff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff wrote:
>>>> My ancient NEC Silentwriter 95 that worked with no complaints for
>>>> 14-15 years just died (motor gone) and I therefore need another
>>>> laser printer. My requirements are low per/page cost and
>>>> maintenance. This is for home use but occasionally I will print a
>>>> 100 page document. I do not have a set price range but because this
>>>> is for home use I do not wish to spend many hundreds of dollars.
>>>>
>>>> I would appreciate suggestions and remarks concerning speed, noise
>>>> and durability. Networking is not a priority.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> I forgot to add, paper handling has to be good.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>> I just went through the same process. My criteria were about the same
>> as yours. I was looking for something under a hundred bucks that
>> preferably had a 250 page paper tray, was reasonably fast, without a
>> lot of complaints about jamming, and would be easy to refill. After
>> reading a lot of reviews, I pretty much tilted toward a Samsung,
>> Brother, or HP, and wound up buying a Brother HL-2040, which was $90
>> after a $30 rebate -- delivered free from Office Max, but only if you
>> live in the "trade area" of one of their stores. It's half the size of
>> my previous Canon inkjet, makes zero noise when it's in the sleep mode
>> waiting to print, and is typical laser noisy when it's actually
>> printing. On the minus side, all the cheaper lasers seem to curl paper
>> a bit, although I think it can be minimized by buying the right paper,
>> I've seen lots of complaints about envelope feeding -- and they can be
>> expensive to operate if you buy the manufacturer's toner or drums.
>>
>> A convenient place to find to find rebate deals is salescircular.com.
>> The new stuff is published Sunday mornings.
>
>Thank you. Did you find out what the replacement toner would cost or its
>cost per page?
>
>Jeff
>
A Brother TN350 toner cartridge, good for around 2,500 pages, is about
$40 on the Internet. I've read that a cartridge can be refilled twice.
A two refill kit runs around $22 from one source, and bulk toner good
for one refill is in the $7 - $14 range. Then there is the issue of
the drum, which brother claims is good for 12,000 pages, and costs
around $75. I would imagine it would be about $40 rebuilt -- if I can
find a rebuilt drum when the time comes.

El Castor wrote:
> "Jeff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> El Castor wrote:
>>> "Jeff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jeff wrote:
>>>>> My ancient NEC Silentwriter 95 that worked with no complaints for
>>>>> 14-15 years just died (motor gone) and I therefore need another
>>>>> laser printer. My requirements are low per/page cost and
>>>>> maintenance. This is for home use but occasionally I will print a
>>>>> 100 page document. I do not have a set price range but because
>>>>> this is for home use I do not wish to spend many hundreds of
>>>>> dollars.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would appreciate suggestions and remarks concerning speed, noise
>>>>> and durability. Networking is not a priority.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> I forgot to add, paper handling has to be good.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> I just went through the same process. My criteria were about the
>>> same as yours. I was looking for something under a hundred bucks
>>> that preferably had a 250 page paper tray, was reasonably fast,
>>> without a lot of complaints about jamming, and would be easy to
>>> refill. After reading a lot of reviews, I pretty much tilted toward
>>> a Samsung, Brother, or HP, and wound up buying a Brother HL-2040,
>>> which was $90 after a $30 rebate -- delivered free from Office Max,
>>> but only if you live in the "trade area" of one of their stores.
>>> It's half the size of my previous Canon inkjet, makes zero noise
>>> when it's in the sleep mode waiting to print, and is typical laser
>>> noisy when it's actually printing. On the minus side, all the
>>> cheaper lasers seem to curl paper a bit, although I think it can be
>>> minimized by buying the right paper, I've seen lots of complaints
>>> about envelope feeding -- and they can be expensive to operate if
>>> you buy the manufacturer's toner or drums.
>>>
>>> A convenient place to find to find rebate deals is
>>> salescircular.com. The new stuff is published Sunday mornings.
>>
>> Thank you. Did you find out what the replacement toner would cost or
>> its cost per page?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
> A Brother TN350 toner cartridge, good for around 2,500 pages, is about
> $40 on the Internet. I've read that a cartridge can be refilled twice.
> A two refill kit runs around $22 from one source, and bulk toner good
> for one refill is in the $7 - $14 range. Then there is the issue of
> the drum, which brother claims is good for 12,000 pages, and costs
> around $75. I would imagine it would be about $40 rebuilt -- if I can
> find a rebuilt drum when the time comes.

Thanks.

Jeff,
You will find a few realities today.

1) Very few, if any, laser printers produced today will give you the
type of durability your earlier one did.

2) Almost anything will be faster and probably provide a higher
resolution image than your previous model.

3) Costs are way down. You can get them for as little as $50 US after
rebates now.

4) Like inkjet printers, the business model has moved to consumables
versus the cost of the machine itself. Your printer will come with a
"starter toner cartridge" which is partially full.

The main consideration after print quality should probably be: warranty,
yield of initial cartridge, cost of consumables, speed of first page
out, how much memory is included, cost of extra memory, noise level.

Most units today are small, handle up to legal size, have small paper
trays, can handle up to card stock thickness, and use costly toner
cartridges. It might be worthwhile to speak to a toner refiller as to
which models most easily entertain refilling to keep you costs down.

If you need duplex printing you'll pay more. Sadly, durability ain't
what it used to be, so expect to have to replace the machine in a few years.

Art

Jeff wrote:

> My ancient NEC Silentwriter 95 that worked with no complaints for 14-15
> years just died (motor gone) and I therefore need another laser printer. My
> requirements are low per/page cost and maintenance. This is for home use but
> occasionally I will print a 100 page document. I do not have a set price
> range but because this is for home use I do not wish to spend many hundreds
> of dollars.
>
> I would appreciate suggestions and remarks concerning speed, noise and
> durability. Networking is not a priority.
>
> Thanks
>
>

How sad. But I guess that's "progress".

Which one would you buy today?

Thanks.

Jeff

Arthur Entlich wrote:
> Jeff,
> You will find a few realities today.
>
> 1) Very few, if any, laser printers produced today will give you the
> type of durability your earlier one did.
>
> 2) Almost anything will be faster and probably provide a higher
> resolution image than your previous model.
>
> 3) Costs are way down. You can get them for as little as $50 US after
> rebates now.
>
> 4) Like inkjet printers, the business model has moved to consumables
> versus the cost of the machine itself. Your printer will come with a
> "starter toner cartridge" which is partially full.
>
> The main consideration after print quality should probably be:
> warranty, yield of initial cartridge, cost of consumables, speed of
> first page out, how much memory is included, cost of extra memory, noise
> level.
>
> Most units today are small, handle up to legal size, have small paper
> trays, can handle up to card stock thickness, and use costly toner
> cartridges. It might be worthwhile to speak to a toner refiller as to
> which models most easily entertain refilling to keep you costs down.
>
> If you need duplex printing you'll pay more. Sadly, durability ain't
> what it used to be, so expect to have to replace the machine in a few
> years.
> Art
>
> Jeff wrote:
>
>> My ancient NEC Silentwriter 95 that worked with no complaints for
>> 14-15 years just died (motor gone) and I therefore need another
>> laser printer. My requirements are low per/page cost and
>> maintenance. This is for home use but occasionally I will print a
>> 100 page document. I do not have a set price range but because this
>> is for home use I do not wish to spend many hundreds of dollars.
>>
>> I would appreciate suggestions and remarks concerning speed, noise
>> and durability. Networking is not a priority.
>>
>> Thanks