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DanG
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      10th Mar 2008
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> My wife needs a small printer that can do page-at-a-time copying.
> Which small laser printers might be good? Color is not required or
> desirable (we have a canon i9100 on the network). This can be a
> dedicated printer on her machine only. Usage is about 20 pages a day.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
>


The Canon MF3240 is a very good machine, retail for $199. The MF4150 is a
work-horse that can be had around $200 on sale ($194 at Amazon). The 4150
has a doc feeder that's worth the extra $. Either one will run for many
months on one toner cart with your stated work load. I suspect the 3240 uses
a smaller toner cart. I use the 4150 for copying, printing and scanning docs
to PDF, and love it. Quality is excellent, warm-up time is nil for scanning
or printing.

For single-page work, you might also consider one of the laser faxes which
also function as a printer. The L80 is around the same price, but is much
slower.


 
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      10th Mar 2008
My wife needs a small printer that can do page-at-a-time copying.
Which small laser printers might be good? Color is not required or
desirable (we have a canon i9100 on the network). This can be a
dedicated printer on her machine only. Usage is about 20 pages a day.

Thanks.

Jim


 
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      10th Mar 2008
Thanks.

I ordered the MF4150 from Amazon.

Jim


On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:34:08 -0600, "DanG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> My wife needs a small printer that can do page-at-a-time copying.
>> Which small laser printers might be good? Color is not required or
>> desirable (we have a canon i9100 on the network). This can be a
>> dedicated printer on her machine only. Usage is about 20 pages a day.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>

>
>The Canon MF3240 is a very good machine, retail for $199. The MF4150 is a
>work-horse that can be had around $200 on sale ($194 at Amazon). The 4150
>has a doc feeder that's worth the extra $. Either one will run for many
>months on one toner cart with your stated work load. I suspect the 3240 uses
>a smaller toner cart. I use the 4150 for copying, printing and scanning docs
>to PDF, and love it. Quality is excellent, warm-up time is nil for scanning
>or printing.
>
>For single-page work, you might also consider one of the laser faxes which
>also function as a printer. The L80 is around the same price, but is much
>slower.
>

 
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Arthur Entlich
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      11th Mar 2008
It somewhat depends upon how important the print quality is. Does she
need good grayscale results or it it just about text and black and white
printing.

There are a lot of small footprint laser printers on the market now, and
many are under $100 US/CAN. I have seen some for under $70 these days.
They are fast, some as high as 1200 dpi, but although that should
allow for very good grayscale printing, some get bandy at that resolution.

Here is what I would look for today:

1) how much memory is in the machine and if it upgradable by the user?
Does it use standard inexpensive computer memory or is it proprietary
and very costly?

Is there adequate memory installed to print a graphic that is 8.5" x 14"
(legal size)

2) What drivers are available. Check for drivers you may need (Win
98/ME, XP, Vista, Mac versions?)

3) what is the warranty? Stay away for 90 parts and labor or 1 year
parts, 90 day labor models... they expect the thing not to last more
than 3 months! Where do you have to go for repair? Does the store do
an over the counter exchange or do you have to ship it to Hong Kong?

4) Try to get one that has a FULL toner cartridge rather than a
"starter" one. The starter cartridges may only have 25% of the normal
toner in them, and the cost of a new cartridge may literally be MORE
than the cost of the printer to buy. Check into the cost and
availability in your area for the normal full cartridges. Most printer
specs talk about yield in terms of 5% coverage per page. Most
letters/text pages use at least 7-10% and images use a lot more, up to 50%.

If toner costs are an issue, try to find out if the printer has a toner
saver function, to print draft and non-critical pages with less toner.

5) For this you may need to do some research on line. Try to find out
what happens when the cartridge runs out. Some can be refilled by a
refiller or yourself easily. Most are at least difficult to refill and
require an "expert" to do it. Some lose functionality if you use a
refill because they literally burn out a chip when they go "empty" the
first time. The usual function lost is speed. The refilled cartridge
will only allow the printer to run at 25-50% of the original speed, and
you may have to deal with a continual nag screen on startup. Some
cartridges use proprietary chips which cannot be reset or replaced and
you simply cannot use the printer without buying an OEM cartridge. Very
wasteful! Most cartridges contain the printing drum, and most drums
last at least 2-3 refills, if not more.

6) How many sheets can be in the tray, can it take heavier paper,
stickers or card stock?

The smaller Brother brand laser printers come well recommended from what
I have read on PC mag's printer reviews.

Art


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> My wife needs a small printer that can do page-at-a-time copying.
> Which small laser printers might be good? Color is not required or
> desirable (we have a canon i9100 on the network). This can be a
> dedicated printer on her machine only. Usage is about 20 pages a day.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
>

 
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Arthur Entlich
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      11th Mar 2008
Oh well, obviously I was slow on the draw on this, but the information
can hopefully be useful to anyone who is looking for a low cost laser
printer.

Art

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> I ordered the MF4150 from Amazon.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:34:08 -0600, "DanG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>>My wife needs a small printer that can do page-at-a-time copying.
>>>Which small laser printers might be good? Color is not required or
>>>desirable (we have a canon i9100 on the network). This can be a
>>>dedicated printer on her machine only. Usage is about 20 pages a day.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>

>>
>>The Canon MF3240 is a very good machine, retail for $199. The MF4150 is a
>>work-horse that can be had around $200 on sale ($194 at Amazon). The 4150
>>has a doc feeder that's worth the extra $. Either one will run for many
>>months on one toner cart with your stated work load. I suspect the 3240 uses
>>a smaller toner cart. I use the 4150 for copying, printing and scanning docs
>>to PDF, and love it. Quality is excellent, warm-up time is nil for scanning
>>or printing.
>>
>>For single-page work, you might also consider one of the laser faxes which
>>also function as a printer. The L80 is around the same price, but is much
>>slower.
>>

 
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Michael Grey
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      11th Mar 2008
The MF3240 uses a 2500 page toner while the MF4150 use a 2000 page toner.
The 4150 does have a toner saver mode.

"DanG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> My wife needs a small printer that can do page-at-a-time copying.
>> Which small laser printers might be good? Color is not required or
>> desirable (we have a canon i9100 on the network). This can be a
>> dedicated printer on her machine only. Usage is about 20 pages a day.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>

>
> The Canon MF3240 is a very good machine, retail for $199. The MF4150 is a
> work-horse that can be had around $200 on sale ($194 at Amazon). The 4150
> has a doc feeder that's worth the extra $. Either one will run for many
> months on one toner cart with your stated work load. I suspect the 3240
> uses a smaller toner cart. I use the 4150 for copying, printing and
> scanning docs to PDF, and love it. Quality is excellent, warm-up time is
> nil for scanning or printing.
>
> For single-page work, you might also consider one of the laser faxes which
> also function as a printer. The L80 is around the same price, but is much
> slower.
>



 
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"Michael Grey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> The MF3240 uses a 2500 page toner while the MF4150 use a 2000 page toner.
> The 4150 does have a toner saver mode.
>



Good info. I'm sure I get way more than 2000 pages of documents out of my
4150. I do not use the "saver" mode.


 
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Arthur Entlich
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      12th Mar 2008
I am not familiar with current laser and Multi-function laser machines.
The toner cartridges you quote... are they what the machine comes with
new, or what the capacity is of the first replacement cartridge?

If that is what they come packed with, that's not too bad. Older laser
printers typically came with 5000-7500 yield at 5%, but the cartridges
were much larger also (as were the machines themselves... it took 3
people to move them ;-))

I have seen units sold with "starter cartridges" rated for 500-1000 at
5%, which is pretty poor for a black and white laser.

Art



Michael Grey wrote:
> The MF3240 uses a 2500 page toner while the MF4150 use a 2000 page toner.
> The 4150 does have a toner saver mode.
>
> "DanG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>>My wife needs a small printer that can do page-at-a-time copying.
>>>Which small laser printers might be good? Color is not required or
>>>desirable (we have a canon i9100 on the network). This can be a
>>>dedicated printer on her machine only. Usage is about 20 pages a day.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>

>>
>>The Canon MF3240 is a very good machine, retail for $199. The MF4150 is a
>>work-horse that can be had around $200 on sale ($194 at Amazon). The 4150
>>has a doc feeder that's worth the extra $. Either one will run for many
>>months on one toner cart with your stated work load. I suspect the 3240
>>uses a smaller toner cart. I use the 4150 for copying, printing and
>>scanning docs to PDF, and love it. Quality is excellent, warm-up time is
>>nil for scanning or printing.
>>
>>For single-page work, you might also consider one of the laser faxes which
>>also function as a printer. The L80 is around the same price, but is much
>>slower.
>>

>
>
>

 
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