I hate to be vague, but I read somewhere in this group about getting "rid"
of IE entirely and going with Mozilla. Would it be worthwhile to literally
remove IE entirely? If so, what would be the best way to remove it
considering that it's not in my add/remove list?

BUB 209 wrote:
> I hate to be vague, but I read somewhere in this group about getting
> "rid" of IE entirely and going with Mozilla. Would it be worthwhile
> to literally remove IE entirely? If so, what would be the best way
> to remove it considering that it's not in my add/remove list?

BUB:

You can't completely remove IE as it is built into the Windows OS.

Steve

On 29 Jun 2004 01:19:30 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) (BUB 209) wrote:

>I hate to be vague, but I read somewhere in this group about getting "rid"
>of IE entirely and going with Mozilla. Would it be worthwhile to literally
>remove IE entirely? If so, what would be the best way to remove it
>considering that it's not in my add/remove list?

There's a free utility called IEradicator:

http://www.litepc.com/ieradicator.html

that can be used on some (earlier) versions of Windows. However, I
don't advise using it for permanent eradication on Windows ME since
too much of the OS becomes disfunctional. You have to understand that
M$ integrated IE deeply into the OS. I did though run Win 98 original
for many years with IE eradicated (and the html engine gutted just to
make sure no app could use it )

Your best bet unless you're using Win 98 and want to try IEradicator
is to set security to high in all zones and don't use it for anything
except Windows updating and installing OS patches. And make sure the
settings are set back to high after using Windows update.

I avoid using any software that requires IE. That includes some
antivirus software and firewalls, BTW.

And don't forget to dump OE!


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:43:54 GMT, <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Your best bet unless you're using Win 98 and want to try IEradicator
> is to set security to high in all zones and don't use it for anything
> except Windows updating and installing OS patches. And make sure the
> settings are set back to high after using Windows update.

Also, patch the registry, so that you can control the settings for
the "My Computer" zone, to disable activex, etc. See
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315933

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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In Message-ID:<9H3Ec.124295$eu.22442@attbi_s02> posted on Tue, 29 Jun
2004 01:35:01 GMT, Steve wrote: Begin:

>BUB 209 wrote:
>> I hate to be vague, but I read somewhere in this group about getting
>> "rid" of IE entirely and going with Mozilla. Would it be worthwhile
>> to literally remove IE entirely? If so, what would be the best way
>> to remove it considering that it's not in my add/remove list?
>
>BUB:
>
>You can't completely remove IE as it is built into the Windows OS.
>
>Steve
>

Win98se here without any MSIE, or its html parsing engine [MSHTML.dll]
None of the past, present, or future I-worms can do anything to me ;-)

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Bart

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 02:32:37 GMT, "David W. Hodgins"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:43:54 GMT, <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Your best bet unless you're using Win 98 and want to try IEradicator
>> is to set security to high in all zones and don't use it for anything
>> except Windows updating and installing OS patches. And make sure the
>> settings are set back to high after using Windows update.
>
>Also, patch the registry, so that you can control the settings for
>the "My Computer" zone, to disable activex, etc. See
>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315933

Yes, this is a good idea as well for experienced users.


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:46:13 -0700, Bart Bailey <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>In Message-ID:<9H3Ec.124295$eu.22442@attbi_s02> posted on Tue, 29 Jun
>2004 01:35:01 GMT, Steve wrote: Begin:
>
>>BUB 209 wrote:
>>> I hate to be vague, but I read somewhere in this group about getting
>>> "rid" of IE entirely and going with Mozilla. Would it be worthwhile
>>> to literally remove IE entirely? If so, what would be the best way
>>> to remove it considering that it's not in my add/remove list?
>>
>>BUB:
>>
>>You can't completely remove IE as it is built into the Windows OS.
>>
>>Steve
>>
>
>Win98se here without any MSIE, or its html parsing engine [MSHTML.dll]
>None of the past, present, or future I-worms can do anything to me ;-)

I'd say I-worm prevention in particular has more to do with securing
(closing or blocking) your internet ports against incoming, patching
your OS, and using a sane email app with common sense (deleting all
unsolicited attackments).

However, high browser security can prevent auto-downloading/installing
of Trojans/droppers/downloaders ... which in some cases might install
I-worms, I suppose. More commonly, RATs, backdoors, spyware and adware
are installed via IE nowdays, I believe. Sometimes users actually are
hit with viruses and multipartites


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

In Message-ID:<(E-Mail Removed)> posted on
Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:33:21 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) wrote: Begin:

>However, high browser security can prevent auto-downloading/installing
>of Trojans/droppers/downloaders ... which in some cases might install
>I-worms, I suppose. More commonly, RATs, backdoors, spyware and adware
>are installed via IE nowdays, I believe. Sometimes users actually are
>hit with viruses and multipartites

Art... is that you saying that?
I didn't think an I-worm was something to be installed,
but rather a vector component in the spread of malware.

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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:25:22 -0700, Bart Bailey <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>In Message-ID:<(E-Mail Removed)> posted on
>Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:33:21 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) wrote: Begin:
>
>>However, high browser security can prevent auto-downloading/installing
>>of Trojans/droppers/downloaders ... which in some cases might install
>>I-worms, I suppose. More commonly, RATs, backdoors, spyware and adware
>>are installed via IE nowdays, I believe. Sometimes users actually are
>>hit with viruses and multipartites
>
>Art... is that you saying that?

Lesee. No, it's not my chimp friend

>I didn't think an I-worm was something to be installed,

They do install themselves.

>but rather a vector component in the spread of malware.

I-worms spread/replicate/install from PC to PC. But each time there is
a installation on the new PC. In order to survive, the worm must be
active (in memory) after each boot. That requires a installation. No?


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

"Bart Bailey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)
>> In Message-ID:<9H3Ec.124295$eu.22442@attbi_s02>
posted on Tue, 29 Jun
>> 2004 01:35:01 GMT, Steve wrote: Begin:
>>
>>> BUB 209 wrote:
>>>> I hate to be vague, but I read somewhere in this
group about
>>>> getting "rid" of IE entirely and going with
Mozilla. Would it be
>>>> worthwhile to literally remove IE entirely? If
so, what would be
>>>> the best way to remove it considering that it's
not in my
>>>> add/remove list?
>>>
>>> BUB:
>>>
>>> You can't completely remove IE as it is built into
the Windows OS.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>
>> Win98se here without any MSIE, or its html parsing
engine
>> [MSHTML.dll] None of the past, present, or future
I-worms can do
>> anything to me ;-)
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bart

Wow, are those famous last words!?!?!? Happy
networking Bart!