I have a new WinXP Home Edition laptop (Sharp MP30).

I've configured the power options so that it never goes into standby when
it's hooked up to power.

But it does anyway.

In fact, no matter how I try to configure the power options, I can't keep it
from going into standby after, oh, 20 minutes, 30 minutes, something like
that. (When it has been idle, of course - it's not crazy enough to go into
standby when I'm working)

Now, this isn't fatal, but I'd like to find out how to do it. I have a vague
recollection of reading that sometimes the computers themselves override the
software's no-standby instructions and just do it anyway.

Well, anyway, does somebody know something about this issue?

Thanks for any ideas,

John

Not familar with Sharp. However does it know the difference between battery
operation or AC line? Did you try setting the standby minutes to 'never'?.
"JMF" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have a new WinXP Home Edition laptop (Sharp MP30).
>
> I've configured the power options so that it never goes into standby when
> it's hooked up to power.
>
> But it does anyway.
>
> In fact, no matter how I try to configure the power options, I can't keep
> it
> from going into standby after, oh, 20 minutes, 30 minutes, something like
> that. (When it has been idle, of course - it's not crazy enough to go into
> standby when I'm working)
>
> Now, this isn't fatal, but I'd like to find out how to do it. I have a
> vague
> recollection of reading that sometimes the computers themselves override
> the
> software's no-standby instructions and just do it anyway.
>
> Well, anyway, does somebody know something about this issue?
>
> Thanks for any ideas,
>
> John
>
>

Hi Unknown,

Yes, it can tell if the computer is on AC line or battery. At least, I see
the icon change when I plug it in. I've also tried pretty much all the
settings in the power options, including "never" for standby. I even
disabled hibernation to be sure nothing was going on there. I even set
standby to "5 hours" or something like that, and it still went into standby
after 20 minutes or 30 minutes or whatever it is. It's as though it's just
sitting there in one set of power option settings, and no matter what I do,
it stays there, ignoring all the power option settings I change.

As I said, it's not a disaster, but it sure is strange, and it's kind of a
pain in the neck to have to log in every time the computer has been sitting
there for a while.

John

"Unknown" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Not familar with Sharp. However does it know the difference between
battery
> operation or AC line? Did you try setting the standby minutes to 'never'?.
> "JMF" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I have a new WinXP Home Edition laptop (Sharp MP30).
> >
> > I've configured the power options so that it never goes into standby
when
> > it's hooked up to power.
> >
> > But it does anyway.
> >
> > In fact, no matter how I try to configure the power options, I can't
keep
> > it
> > from going into standby after, oh, 20 minutes, 30 minutes, something
like
> > that. (When it has been idle, of course - it's not crazy enough to go
into
> > standby when I'm working)
> >
> > Now, this isn't fatal, but I'd like to find out how to do it. I have a
> > vague
> > recollection of reading that sometimes the computers themselves override
> > the
> > software's no-standby instructions and just do it anyway.
> >
> > Well, anyway, does somebody know something about this issue?
> >
> > Thanks for any ideas,
> >
> > John
> >
> >
>
>

"JMF" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I have a new WinXP Home Edition laptop (Sharp MP30).
>
> I've configured the power options so that it never goes into standby
> when it's hooked up to power.
>
> But it does anyway.
>
> In fact, no matter how I try to configure the power options, I can't
> keep it from going into standby after, oh, 20 minutes, 30 minutes,
> something like that. (When it has been idle, of course - it's not
> crazy enough to go into standby when I'm working)
>
> Now, this isn't fatal, but I'd like to find out how to do it. I have
> a vague recollection of reading that sometimes the computers
> themselves override the software's no-standby instructions and just
> do it anyway.
>
> Well, anyway, does somebody know something about this issue?
>
> Thanks for any ideas,
>
> John

Does it do this while on AC?

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"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "JMF" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)
> > I have a new WinXP Home Edition laptop (Sharp MP30).
> >
> > I've configured the power options so that it never goes into standby
> > when it's hooked up to power.
> >
> > But it does anyway.
> >
> > In fact, no matter how I try to configure the power options, I can't
> > keep it from going into standby after, oh, 20 minutes, 30 minutes,
> > something like that. (When it has been idle, of course - it's not
> > crazy enough to go into standby when I'm working)
> >
> > Now, this isn't fatal, but I'd like to find out how to do it. I have
> > a vague recollection of reading that sometimes the computers
> > themselves override the software's no-standby instructions and just
> > do it anyway.
> >
> > Well, anyway, does somebody know something about this issue?
> >
> > Thanks for any ideas,
> >
> > John
>
> Does it do this while on AC?

Right - that's the mysterious thing. It does it even on AC.

John

In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)
says...
> Hi Unknown,
>
> Yes, it can tell if the computer is on AC line or battery. At least, I see
> the icon change when I plug it in. I've also tried pretty much all the
> settings in the power options, including "never" for standby. I even
> disabled hibernation to be sure nothing was going on there. I even set
> standby to "5 hours" or something like that, and it still went into standby
> after 20 minutes or 30 minutes or whatever it is. It's as though it's just
> sitting there in one set of power option settings, and no matter what I do,
> it stays there, ignoring all the power option settings I change.
>
> As I said, it's not a disaster, but it sure is strange, and it's kind of a
> pain in the neck to have to log in every time the computer has been sitting
> there for a while.

Many times it's a battery issue or a communications issue. I've seen
Belkin and APC units with bad communication cables do this, and I've
also seen ones with a bad/weak battery cause this. Many times the unit
will appear to be working perfectly, but then a subtle drop in line
voltage, not enough to cause the system to reboot or maybe not even
enough to see in the lights, will cause the UPS to supply power and if
the battery is weak or bad, the unit will go to stand-by.


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"Leythos" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)
> says...
> > Hi Unknown,
> >
> > Yes, it can tell if the computer is on AC line or battery. At least, I
see
> > the icon change when I plug it in. I've also tried pretty much all the
> > settings in the power options, including "never" for standby. I even
> > disabled hibernation to be sure nothing was going on there. I even set
> > standby to "5 hours" or something like that, and it still went into
standby
> > after 20 minutes or 30 minutes or whatever it is. It's as though it's
just
> > sitting there in one set of power option settings, and no matter what I
do,
> > it stays there, ignoring all the power option settings I change.
> >
> > As I said, it's not a disaster, but it sure is strange, and it's kind of
a
> > pain in the neck to have to log in every time the computer has been
sitting
> > there for a while.
>
> Many times it's a battery issue or a communications issue. I've seen
> Belkin and APC units with bad communication cables do this, and I've
> also seen ones with a bad/weak battery cause this. Many times the unit
> will appear to be working perfectly, but then a subtle drop in line
> voltage, not enough to cause the system to reboot or maybe not even
> enough to see in the lights, will cause the UPS to supply power and if
> the battery is weak or bad, the unit will go to stand-by.

Interesting. OK, I'll monitor this aspect. Thanks!

John

My brother wrote this to me:

"This is usually because there is some other power management utility
overriding whatever you're using to make this setting - probably a Sharp
utility. This is true for my IBM. IBM has there own power management
utility that trumps whatever you try to set using the utility in
Windows."

And by golly, this is what I had vaguely been remembering: sometimes it's
the computer itself overriding the software. So I'm snooping around to see
if the Sharp laptop has its own power utility that's getting in the way.

John

Not sure if your computer complies with ACPI (Advanced Computer Power
Interface). However, have you tried configuring your computer (in power
options) as a desktop?
"JMF" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> "JMF" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> > I have a new WinXP Home Edition laptop (Sharp MP30).
>> >
>> > I've configured the power options so that it never goes into standby
>> > when it's hooked up to power.
>> >
>> > But it does anyway.
>> >
>> > In fact, no matter how I try to configure the power options, I can't
>> > keep it from going into standby after, oh, 20 minutes, 30 minutes,
>> > something like that. (When it has been idle, of course - it's not
>> > crazy enough to go into standby when I'm working)
>> >
>> > Now, this isn't fatal, but I'd like to find out how to do it. I have
>> > a vague recollection of reading that sometimes the computers
>> > themselves override the software's no-standby instructions and just
>> > do it anyway.
>> >
>> > Well, anyway, does somebody know something about this issue?
>> >
>> > Thanks for any ideas,
>> >
>> > John
>>
>> Does it do this while on AC?
>
> Right - that's the mysterious thing. It does it even on AC.
>
> John
>
>

Unknown wrote:

> Not sure if your computer complies with ACPI (Advanced Computer Power
> Interface). However, have you tried configuring your computer (in
> power options) as a desktop?
> "JMF" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> "JMF" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)
>>> > I have a new WinXP Home Edition laptop (Sharp MP30).
>>> >
>>> > I've configured the power options so that it never goes into
>>> > standby when it's hooked up to power.
>>> >
>>> > But it does anyway.
>>> >
>>> > In fact, no matter how I try to configure the power options, I
>>> > can't keep it from going into standby after, oh, 20 minutes, 30
>>> > minutes, something like that. (When it has been idle, of course -
>>> > it's not crazy enough to go into standby when I'm working)
(snip)

Configuring a laptop as a Desktop would be a really Bad Thing. The OP is
on the right track (thanks to his clever brother); there is undoubtedly
a power management program installed by Sharp that should be used to
set those options. Some laptop software is more upfront about it and
will tell you not to use the Windows power management but to use the
OEM software instead. Other laptops don't have that warning, but you
should always use the OEM power management software for a laptop.

Malke
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