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Shadow
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      29th Nov 2011
Using the new Avira Free Antivirus, version 12, fully updated.

Every now and then, when I'm watching a movie, listening to music,
checking my email, etc, the PC jams for a minute, sometimes less,
infrequently a lot longer.

Once it jammed for so long I was about to hard reboot (ctrl-alt-del
not responding) when it went back to normal.

So I set procexp to run on the screen, and next time it happened, I
saw that an avira process was consuming 99% of the CPU. Can't remember
which process, I just got a glimpse of the little red icon and the cpu
usage before everything went back to normal, and the window I had
clicked on before blanked it out.

Windows XP SP3.

Not an update, I have them set to once a day, and this is happening
maybe 2-3 times a day.

Deadly for anyone that plays online games ..
Any idea what is happening ? And what should be tweaked so it does not
go on happening ?
TIA
 
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VanguardLH
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      29th Nov 2011
Shadow wrote:

> Using the new Avira Free Antivirus, version 12, fully updated.
>
> Every now and then, when I'm watching a movie, listening to music,
> checking my email, etc, the PC jams for a minute, sometimes less,
> infrequently a lot longer.
>
> Once it jammed for so long I was about to hard reboot (ctrl-alt-del
> not responding) when it went back to normal.
>
> So I set procexp to run on the screen, and next time it happened, I
> saw that an avira process was consuming 99% of the CPU. Can't remember
> which process, I just got a glimpse of the little red icon and the cpu
> usage before everything went back to normal, and the window I had
> clicked on before blanked it out.
>
> Windows XP SP3.
>
> Not an update, I have them set to once a day, and this is happening
> maybe 2-3 times a day.
>
> Deadly for anyone that plays online games ..
> Any idea what is happening ? And what should be tweaked so it does not
> go on happening ?
> TIA


What OTHER security software did you install that runs as a background
or resident process? While the suggestion to use multiple AV products
to overlap their protection (i.e., have them possible cover gaps in
other products), some of them still install system hooks or run
background processes despite you want them completely quiescent and used
only as an on-demand scanner. I've seen where a couple of security
products were competing with each other with the result that one would
interrogate a file, close it, the other saw the open and then scanned
the same file, closed it, the first one saw that and scanned again, and
the two kept competing on the same file so that I was getting 3900 file
opens per minute. Getting rid of the lesser product eliminate the
competition.
 
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Shadow
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      30th Nov 2011
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:04:40 -0600, VanguardLH <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Shadow wrote:
>
>> Using the new Avira Free Antivirus, version 12, fully updated.
>>
>> Every now and then, when I'm watching a movie, listening to music,
>> checking my email, etc, the PC jams for a minute, sometimes less,
>> infrequently a lot longer.
>>
>> Once it jammed for so long I was about to hard reboot (ctrl-alt-del
>> not responding) when it went back to normal.
>>
>> So I set procexp to run on the screen, and next time it happened, I
>> saw that an avira process was consuming 99% of the CPU. Can't remember
>> which process, I just got a glimpse of the little red icon and the cpu
>> usage before everything went back to normal, and the window I had
>> clicked on before blanked it out.
>>
>> Windows XP SP3.
>>
>> Not an update, I have them set to once a day, and this is happening
>> maybe 2-3 times a day.
>>
>> Deadly for anyone that plays online games ..
>> Any idea what is happening ? And what should be tweaked so it does not
>> go on happening ?
>> TIA

>
>What OTHER security software did you install that runs as a background
>or resident process? While the suggestion to use multiple AV products
>to overlap their protection (i.e., have them possible cover gaps in
>other products), some of them still install system hooks or run
>background processes despite you want them completely quiescent and used
>only as an on-demand scanner. I've seen where a couple of security
>products were competing with each other with the result that one would
>interrogate a file, close it, the other saw the open and then scanned
>the same file, closed it, the first one saw that and scanned again, and
>the two kept competing on the same file so that I was getting 3900 file
>opens per minute. Getting rid of the lesser product eliminate the
>competition.

Just Malwarebytes (free so not resident) and a firewall. I
also scan from linux with avast, f-prot or clamav, when I'm doing
something else.
I'm going to capture the hogger, if I'm fast enough, and I'll
post the results here.
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Shadow
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      30th Nov 2011
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:04:40 -0600, VanguardLH <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Shadow wrote:
>
>> Using the new Avira Free Antivirus, version 12, fully updated.
>>
>> Every now and then, when I'm watching a movie, listening to music,
>> checking my email, etc, the PC jams for a minute, sometimes less,
>> infrequently a lot longer.
>>
>> Once it jammed for so long I was about to hard reboot (ctrl-alt-del
>> not responding) when it went back to normal.
>>
>> So I set procexp to run on the screen, and next time it happened, I
>> saw that an avira process was consuming 99% of the CPU. Can't remember
>> which process, I just got a glimpse of the little red icon and the cpu
>> usage before everything went back to normal, and the window I had
>> clicked on before blanked it out.
>>
>> Windows XP SP3.
>>
>> Not an update, I have them set to once a day, and this is happening
>> maybe 2-3 times a day.
>>
>> Deadly for anyone that plays online games ..
>> Any idea what is happening ? And what should be tweaked so it does not
>> go on happening ?
>> TIA

>
>What OTHER security software did you install that runs as a background
>or resident process? While the suggestion to use multiple AV products
>to overlap their protection (i.e., have them possible cover gaps in
>other products), some of them still install system hooks or run
>background processes despite you want them completely quiescent and used
>only as an on-demand scanner. I've seen where a couple of security
>products were competing with each other with the result that one would
>interrogate a file, close it, the other saw the open and then scanned
>the same file, closed it, the first one saw that and scanned again, and
>the two kept competing on the same file so that I was getting 3900 file
>opens per minute. Getting rid of the lesser product eliminate the
>competition.


Hits 87% for update.exe, then soon after 100% for avguard.exe. CPU
usage stats from procexp.

spoolsv.exe 1568 Spooler SubSystem App Microsoft
Corporation
sched.exe 1612 Avira Scheduler Avira Operations GmbH
& Co. KG
update.exe 3388 Avira Updater Avira Operations GmbH
& Co. KG
updrgui.exe 1360 Avira Updater remote GUI Avira
Operations GmbH & Co. KG
avguard.exe 272 100.00 Avira On-Access Service Avira
Operations GmbH & Co. KG
avshadow.exe 1492 Avira Shadow Copy Service
Avira Operations GmbH & Co. KG

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