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anders thoresson
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      27th Aug 2003
Hi,

I have a webcam that I want to use together with Messenger to make audio-
video calls. So far, I thought that the solution was to get a firewall that
supports UPnP. But I've just understood that UPnP is already being replaced
by SIP.

If I buy a firewall that supports SIP, will I still be able to make audio-
video connections to friends who are using "the other way to connect" (what
ever that technology is), or would I only be able to communicate with other
who also use SIP?

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Jonathan Kay [MVP]
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      27th Aug 2003
Greetings Anders,

SIP and UPnP are two different things, neither is replacing the other -- assuming you mean a
firewall NAT/router (just a normal software firewall doesn't need to support either of these
things, unless it does some sort of NAT/internet sharing duties). SIP is just a protocol,
and UPnP is just a standard, compatibility really remains with the program.

Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger need UPnP enabled NATs for voice/video to be
successful -- and using that, you can connect to anyone connected directly, behind their own
UPnP NAT, etc.

This of course, ignores the enterprise level SIP based proxy type hardware/software from
Radivision or VCon, but I don't assume that's what you're referring to.
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"anders thoresson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I have a webcam that I want to use together with Messenger to make audio-
> video calls. So far, I thought that the solution was to get a firewall that
> supports UPnP. But I've just understood that UPnP is already being replaced
> by SIP.
>
> If I buy a firewall that supports SIP, will I still be able to make audio-
> video connections to friends who are using "the other way to connect" (what
> ever that technology is), or would I only be able to communicate with other
> who also use SIP?
>
> --
> anders thoresson



 
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anders thoresson
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      27th Aug 2003
Hi Jonathan,

> Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger need UPnP enabled NATs for
> voice/video to be
> successful -- and using that, you can connect to anyone connected
> directly, behind their own
> UPnP NAT, etc.


I'm aware of that UPnP is a way letting software on a client control the
firewall and SIP is a protocol to initate sessions. But I've been led to
believe that choosing a SIP-enabled firewall, like a Cisco PIX 501 or an
Intertex IX66, would remove the need for a UPnP-enabled firewall. Isn't
that correct?

This is one of the resources I've read:
http://www.intertex.se/index2.asp?iM...83&iItemID=227.
 
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