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Tim
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      7th Mar 2007
Hi,

I have a workbook that uses the calendar control, mscal.ocx; it works great!
but i would like to distribute to various users some of which are unlikely
to have that control registered or even installed on their system. does
anyone know of a way to automatically / programatically: -
1) install the calendar control if its not present (in the right location)
2) if not registered, register it (all systems will be windows xp)

i would want this to run before opening the workbook. and it would have to
be simple installation (ie, i just say 'open workbook xxx' and it all
installs automatically!

could i do it with vba in another workbook? if so, could someone give me
some pointers as to how i would do it?

Thanks for any help,

Tim



 
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RB Smissaert
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      7th Mar 2007
Simplest way is to avoid mscal.ocx and go with the Monthview control that
comes with the Windows common controls, so will always be present.
I am not sure now in which one it is, but it will be one of these:
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MSCOMCTL.OCX
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\MSCOMCT2.OCX

RBS

"Tim" <tmarsh-trousers-@-take off my trousers to reply-blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote in message news:O6DIJ%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
>
> I have a workbook that uses the calendar control, mscal.ocx; it works
> great! but i would like to distribute to various users some of which are
> unlikely to have that control registered or even installed on their
> system. does anyone know of a way to automatically / programatically: -
> 1) install the calendar control if its not present (in the right location)
> 2) if not registered, register it (all systems will be windows xp)
>
> i would want this to run before opening the workbook. and it would have
> to be simple installation (ie, i just say 'open workbook xxx' and it all
> installs automatically!
>
> could i do it with vba in another workbook? if so, could someone give me
> some pointers as to how i would do it?
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> Tim
>
>
>


 
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RB Smissaert
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      7th Mar 2007
It is in MSComCt2.ocx Microsoft Windows Common Controls-2 6.0
So, just set a reference to it and add the control to the
control box.

RBS

"Tim" <tmarsh-trousers-@-take off my trousers to reply-blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote in message news:O6DIJ%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
>
> I have a workbook that uses the calendar control, mscal.ocx; it works
> great! but i would like to distribute to various users some of which are
> unlikely to have that control registered or even installed on their
> system. does anyone know of a way to automatically / programatically: -
> 1) install the calendar control if its not present (in the right location)
> 2) if not registered, register it (all systems will be windows xp)
>
> i would want this to run before opening the workbook. and it would have
> to be simple installation (ie, i just say 'open workbook xxx' and it all
> installs automatically!
>
> could i do it with vba in another workbook? if so, could someone give me
> some pointers as to how i would do it?
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> Tim
>
>
>


 
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Tim Marsh
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      8th Mar 2007
Thanks for the reply RBS.

I've searched my c: drive and can't find 'MSComCt2.ocx' so it seems i
am in the same position as for the 'mscal.ocx', ie, even if i
downloaded MSComCt2.ocx i would still have to have some way of
deploying it / registering it etc etc (but please correct me if i'm
wrong)

Thanks,

Tim

PS - i did manage to find MSComCtl.ocx which i registered with windows
and added as a reference in the VBE but i didn't see any applicable
control that i could use as a result... any ideas?!

RB Smissaert wrote:

> It is in MSComCt2.ocx Microsoft Windows Common Controls-2 6.0
> So, just set a reference to it and add the control to the
> control box.
>
> RBS
>
> "Tim" <tmarsh-trousers-@-take off my trousers to reply-blueyonder.co.uk>
> wrote in message news:O6DIJ%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a workbook that uses the calendar control, mscal.ocx; it works
> > great! but i would like to distribute to various users some of which are
> > unlikely to have that control registered or even installed on their
> > system. does anyone know of a way to automatically / programatically: -
> > 1) install the calendar control if its not present (in the right location)
> > 2) if not registered, register it (all systems will be windows xp)
> >
> > i would want this to run before opening the workbook. and it would have
> > to be simple installation (ie, i just say 'open workbook xxx' and it all
> > installs automatically!
> >
> > could i do it with vba in another workbook? if so, could someone give me
> > some pointers as to how i would do it?
> >
> > Thanks for any help,
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >


 
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RB Smissaert
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      8th Mar 2007
Look at this one:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/297381

What is your windows version?

RBS

"Tim Marsh" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks for the reply RBS.
>
> I've searched my c: drive and can't find 'MSComCt2.ocx' so it seems i
> am in the same position as for the 'mscal.ocx', ie, even if i
> downloaded MSComCt2.ocx i would still have to have some way of
> deploying it / registering it etc etc (but please correct me if i'm
> wrong)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
>
> PS - i did manage to find MSComCtl.ocx which i registered with windows
> and added as a reference in the VBE but i didn't see any applicable
> control that i could use as a result... any ideas?!
>
> RB Smissaert wrote:
>
>> It is in MSComCt2.ocx Microsoft Windows Common Controls-2 6.0
>> So, just set a reference to it and add the control to the
>> control box.
>>
>> RBS
>>
>> "Tim" <tmarsh-trousers-@-take off my trousers to reply-blueyonder.co.uk>
>> wrote in message news:O6DIJ%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I have a workbook that uses the calendar control, mscal.ocx; it works
>> > great! but i would like to distribute to various users some of which
>> > are
>> > unlikely to have that control registered or even installed on their
>> > system. does anyone know of a way to automatically /
>> > programatically: -
>> > 1) install the calendar control if its not present (in the right
>> > location)
>> > 2) if not registered, register it (all systems will be windows xp)
>> >
>> > i would want this to run before opening the workbook. and it would
>> > have
>> > to be simple installation (ie, i just say 'open workbook xxx' and it
>> > all
>> > installs automatically!
>> >
>> > could i do it with vba in another workbook? if so, could someone give
>> > me
>> > some pointers as to how i would do it?
>> >
>> > Thanks for any help,
>> >
>> > Tim
>> >
>> >
>> >

>


 
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Tim Marsh
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      8th Mar 2007
Ah, thanks. that explains the lack of control. my windows is XP Pro
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600.

But in terms of moving on, i would still need a method of deployment
for whichever control I used (as mentioned previously) and as i've
already put it together using the mscal control, i would prefer to
keep with that. Any thoughts? In the meantime, i'll try and create
some code for it... if successful, i'll post back here.

Thanks for your continued patience!

Tim


On 8 Mar, 10:50, "RB Smissaert" <bartsmissa...@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:
> Look at this one:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/297381
>
> What is your windows version?
>
> RBS
>
> "Tim Marsh" <tma...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
>
> > Thanks for the reply RBS.

>
> > I've searched my c: drive and can't find 'MSComCt2.ocx' so it seems i
> > am in the same position as for the 'mscal.ocx', ie, even if i
> > downloaded MSComCt2.ocx i would still have to have some way of
> > deploying it / registering it etc etc (but please correct me if i'm
> > wrong)

>
> > Thanks,

>
> > Tim

>
> > PS - i did manage to find MSComCtl.ocx which i registered with windows
> > and added as a reference in the VBE but i didn't see any applicable
> > control that i could use as a result... any ideas?!

>
> > RB Smissaert wrote:

>
> >> It is in MSComCt2.ocx Microsoft Windows Common Controls-2 6.0
> >> So, just set a reference to it and add the control to the
> >> control box.

>
> >> RBS

>
> >> "Tim" <tmarsh-trousers-@-take off my trousers to reply-blueyonder.co.uk>
> >> wrote in messagenews:O6DIJ%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Hi,

>
> >> > I have a workbook that uses the calendar control, mscal.ocx; it works
> >> > great! but i would like to distribute to various users some of which
> >> > are
> >> > unlikely to have that control registered or even installed on their
> >> > system. does anyone know of a way to automatically /
> >> > programatically: -
> >> > 1) install the calendar control if its not present (in the right
> >> > location)
> >> > 2) if not registered, register it (all systems will be windows xp)

>
> >> > i would want this to run before opening the workbook. and it would
> >> > have
> >> > to be simple installation (ie, i just say 'open workbook xxx' and it
> >> > all
> >> > installs automatically!

>
> >> > could i do it with vba in another workbook? if so, could someone give
> >> > me
> >> > some pointers as to how i would do it?

>
> >> > Thanks for any help,

>
> >> > Tim- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -



 
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RB Smissaert
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      8th Mar 2007
> windows is XP Pro

That should have it. I have the same.
If you want to stick with MSCal.ocx then it would be
best to provide an installation package.
I use the free INNO installer and that is very good.

RBS

"Tim Marsh" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Ah, thanks. that explains the lack of control. my windows is XP Pro
> Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600.
>
> But in terms of moving on, i would still need a method of deployment
> for whichever control I used (as mentioned previously) and as i've
> already put it together using the mscal control, i would prefer to
> keep with that. Any thoughts? In the meantime, i'll try and create
> some code for it... if successful, i'll post back here.
>
> Thanks for your continued patience!
>
> Tim
>
>
> On 8 Mar, 10:50, "RB Smissaert" <bartsmissa...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> Look at this one:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/297381
>>
>> What is your windows version?
>>
>> RBS
>>
>> "Tim Marsh" <tma...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>>
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Thanks for the reply RBS.

>>
>> > I've searched my c: drive and can't find 'MSComCt2.ocx' so it seems i
>> > am in the same position as for the 'mscal.ocx', ie, even if i
>> > downloaded MSComCt2.ocx i would still have to have some way of
>> > deploying it / registering it etc etc (but please correct me if i'm
>> > wrong)

>>
>> > Thanks,

>>
>> > Tim

>>
>> > PS - i did manage to find MSComCtl.ocx which i registered with windows
>> > and added as a reference in the VBE but i didn't see any applicable
>> > control that i could use as a result... any ideas?!

>>
>> > RB Smissaert wrote:

>>
>> >> It is in MSComCt2.ocx Microsoft Windows Common Controls-2 6.0
>> >> So, just set a reference to it and add the control to the
>> >> control box.

>>
>> >> RBS

>>
>> >> "Tim" <tmarsh-trousers-@-take off my trousers to
>> >> reply-blueyonder.co.uk>
>> >> wrote in messagenews:O6DIJ%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > Hi,

>>
>> >> > I have a workbook that uses the calendar control, mscal.ocx; it
>> >> > works
>> >> > great! but i would like to distribute to various users some of which
>> >> > are
>> >> > unlikely to have that control registered or even installed on their
>> >> > system. does anyone know of a way to automatically /
>> >> > programatically: -
>> >> > 1) install the calendar control if its not present (in the right
>> >> > location)
>> >> > 2) if not registered, register it (all systems will be windows xp)

>>
>> >> > i would want this to run before opening the workbook. and it would
>> >> > have
>> >> > to be simple installation (ie, i just say 'open workbook xxx' and it
>> >> > all
>> >> > installs automatically!

>>
>> >> > could i do it with vba in another workbook? if so, could someone
>> >> > give
>> >> > me
>> >> > some pointers as to how i would do it?

>>
>> >> > Thanks for any help,

>>
>> >> > Tim- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
>


 
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Tim Marsh
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      8th Mar 2007
i've just taken a quick look at INNO; I'm no IT expert, but it looks
very promising! thanks for your help RBS, i'm sure i'll figure it
out.

On 8 Mar, 11:24, "RB Smissaert" <bartsmissa...@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:
> > windows is XP Pro

>
> That should have it. I have the same.
> If you want to stick with MSCal.ocx then it would be
> best to provide an installation package.
> I use the free INNO installer and that is very good.
>
> RBS
>
> "Tim Marsh" <tma...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
>
> > Ah, thanks. that explains the lack of control. my windows is XP Pro
> > Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600.

>
> > But in terms of moving on, i would still need a method of deployment
> > for whichever control I used (as mentioned previously) and as i've
> > already put it together using the mscal control, i would prefer to
> > keep with that. Any thoughts? In the meantime, i'll try and create
> > some code for it... if successful, i'll post back here.

>
> > Thanks for your continued patience!

>
> > Tim

>
> > On 8 Mar, 10:50, "RB Smissaert" <bartsmissa...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >> Look at this one:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/297381

>
> >> What is your windows version?

>
> >> RBS

>
> >> "Tim Marsh" <tma...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message

>
> >>news:(E-Mail Removed)...

>
> >> > Thanks for the reply RBS.

>
> >> > I've searched my c: drive and can't find 'MSComCt2.ocx' so it seems i
> >> > am in the same position as for the 'mscal.ocx', ie, even if i
> >> > downloaded MSComCt2.ocx i would still have to have some way of
> >> > deploying it / registering it etc etc (but please correct me if i'm
> >> > wrong)

>
> >> > Thanks,

>
> >> > Tim

>
> >> > PS - i did manage to find MSComCtl.ocx which i registered with windows
> >> > and added as a reference in the VBE but i didn't see any applicable
> >> > control that i could use as a result... any ideas?!

>
> >> > RB Smissaert wrote:

>
> >> >> It is in MSComCt2.ocx Microsoft Windows Common Controls-2 6.0
> >> >> So, just set a reference to it and add the control to the
> >> >> control box.

>
> >> >> RBS

>
> >> >> "Tim" <tmarsh-trousers-@-take off my trousers to
> >> >> reply-blueyonder.co.uk>
> >> >> wrote in messagenews:O6DIJ%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> > Hi,

>
> >> >> > I have a workbook that uses the calendar control, mscal.ocx; it
> >> >> > works
> >> >> > great! but i would like to distribute to various users some of which
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > unlikely to have that control registered or even installed on their
> >> >> > system. does anyone know of a way to automatically /
> >> >> > programatically: -
> >> >> > 1) install the calendar control if its not present (in the right
> >> >> > location)
> >> >> > 2) if not registered, register it (all systems will be windows xp)

>
> >> >> > i would want this to run before opening the workbook. and it would
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > to be simple installation (ie, i just say 'open workbook xxx' and it
> >> >> > all
> >> >> > installs automatically!

>
> >> >> > could i do it with vba in another workbook? if so, could someone
> >> >> > give
> >> >> > me
> >> >> > some pointers as to how i would do it?

>
> >> >> > Thanks for any help,

>
> >> >> > Tim- Hide quoted text -

>
> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

>
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M. Authement
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      8th Mar 2007
If you want to use an Excel installer, let me know and I will send you an
example of what I use. With this code, I ask my users to Extract a .zip
file to a file location I specify, so it is not completely automatic.




"Tim Marsh" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> i've just taken a quick look at INNO; I'm no IT expert, but it looks
> very promising! thanks for your help RBS, i'm sure i'll figure it
> out.
>
> On 8 Mar, 11:24, "RB Smissaert" <bartsmissa...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> > windows is XP Pro

>>
>> That should have it. I have the same.
>> If you want to stick with MSCal.ocx then it would be
>> best to provide an installation package.
>> I use the free INNO installer and that is very good.
>>
>> RBS
>>
>> "Tim Marsh" <tma...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>>
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Ah, thanks. that explains the lack of control. my windows is XP Pro
>> > Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600.

>>
>> > But in terms of moving on, i would still need a method of deployment
>> > for whichever control I used (as mentioned previously) and as i've
>> > already put it together using the mscal control, i would prefer to
>> > keep with that. Any thoughts? In the meantime, i'll try and create
>> > some code for it... if successful, i'll post back here.

>>
>> > Thanks for your continued patience!

>>
>> > Tim

>>
>> > On 8 Mar, 10:50, "RB Smissaert" <bartsmissa...@blueyonder.co.uk>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Look at this one:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/297381

>>
>> >> What is your windows version?

>>
>> >> RBS

>>
>> >> "Tim Marsh" <tma...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message

>>
>> >>news:(E-Mail Removed)...

>>
>> >> > Thanks for the reply RBS.

>>
>> >> > I've searched my c: drive and can't find 'MSComCt2.ocx' so it seems
>> >> > i
>> >> > am in the same position as for the 'mscal.ocx', ie, even if i
>> >> > downloaded MSComCt2.ocx i would still have to have some way of
>> >> > deploying it / registering it etc etc (but please correct me if i'm
>> >> > wrong)

>>
>> >> > Thanks,

>>
>> >> > Tim

>>
>> >> > PS - i did manage to find MSComCtl.ocx which i registered with
>> >> > windows
>> >> > and added as a reference in the VBE but i didn't see any applicable
>> >> > control that i could use as a result... any ideas?!

>>
>> >> > RB Smissaert wrote:

>>
>> >> >> It is in MSComCt2.ocx Microsoft Windows Common Controls-2 6.0
>> >> >> So, just set a reference to it and add the control to the
>> >> >> control box.

>>
>> >> >> RBS

>>
>> >> >> "Tim" <tmarsh-trousers-@-take off my trousers to
>> >> >> reply-blueyonder.co.uk>
>> >> >> wrote in messagenews:O6DIJ%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >> > Hi,

>>
>> >> >> > I have a workbook that uses the calendar control, mscal.ocx; it
>> >> >> > works
>> >> >> > great! but i would like to distribute to various users some of
>> >> >> > which
>> >> >> > are
>> >> >> > unlikely to have that control registered or even installed on
>> >> >> > their
>> >> >> > system. does anyone know of a way to automatically /
>> >> >> > programatically: -
>> >> >> > 1) install the calendar control if its not present (in the right
>> >> >> > location)
>> >> >> > 2) if not registered, register it (all systems will be windows
>> >> >> > xp)

>>
>> >> >> > i would want this to run before opening the workbook. and it
>> >> >> > would
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > to be simple installation (ie, i just say 'open workbook xxx' and
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > all
>> >> >> > installs automatically!

>>
>> >> >> > could i do it with vba in another workbook? if so, could someone
>> >> >> > give
>> >> >> > me
>> >> >> > some pointers as to how i would do it?

>>
>> >> >> > Thanks for any help,

>>
>> >> >> > Tim- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
>



 
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Tim
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      9th Mar 2007
Hi M. Authement,

yes, I'd be very interested to see that. i am now fairly good with my
spreadsheet development, but am new to the world of spreadsheet deployment,
so anything like this is most helpful.

Thanks,

Tim


"M. Authement" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:u6FEL$(E-Mail Removed)...
> If you want to use an Excel installer, let me know and I will send you an
> example of what I use. With this code, I ask my users to Extract a .zip
> file to a file location I specify, so it is not completely automatic.
>
>
>
>
> "Tim Marsh" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> i've just taken a quick look at INNO; I'm no IT expert, but it looks
>> very promising! thanks for your help RBS, i'm sure i'll figure it
>> out.
>>
>> On 8 Mar, 11:24, "RB Smissaert" <bartsmissa...@blueyonder.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>> > windows is XP Pro
>>>
>>> That should have it. I have the same.
>>> If you want to stick with MSCal.ocx then it would be
>>> best to provide an installation package.
>>> I use the free INNO installer and that is very good.
>>>
>>> RBS
>>>
>>> "Tim Marsh" <tma...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Ah, thanks. that explains the lack of control. my windows is XP Pro
>>> > Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600.
>>>
>>> > But in terms of moving on, i would still need a method of deployment
>>> > for whichever control I used (as mentioned previously) and as i've
>>> > already put it together using the mscal control, i would prefer to
>>> > keep with that. Any thoughts? In the meantime, i'll try and create
>>> > some code for it... if successful, i'll post back here.
>>>
>>> > Thanks for your continued patience!
>>>
>>> > Tim
>>>
>>> > On 8 Mar, 10:50, "RB Smissaert" <bartsmissa...@blueyonder.co.uk>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >> Look at this one:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/297381
>>>
>>> >> What is your windows version?
>>>
>>> >> RBS
>>>
>>> >> "Tim Marsh" <tma...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>
>>> >>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>> >> > Thanks for the reply RBS.
>>>
>>> >> > I've searched my c: drive and can't find 'MSComCt2.ocx' so it seems
>>> >> > i
>>> >> > am in the same position as for the 'mscal.ocx', ie, even if i
>>> >> > downloaded MSComCt2.ocx i would still have to have some way of
>>> >> > deploying it / registering it etc etc (but please correct me if i'm
>>> >> > wrong)
>>>
>>> >> > Thanks,
>>>
>>> >> > Tim
>>>
>>> >> > PS - i did manage to find MSComCtl.ocx which i registered with
>>> >> > windows
>>> >> > and added as a reference in the VBE but i didn't see any applicable
>>> >> > control that i could use as a result... any ideas?!
>>>
>>> >> > RB Smissaert wrote:
>>>
>>> >> >> It is in MSComCt2.ocx Microsoft Windows Common Controls-2 6.0
>>> >> >> So, just set a reference to it and add the control to the
>>> >> >> control box.
>>>
>>> >> >> RBS
>>>
>>> >> >> "Tim" <tmarsh-trousers-@-take off my trousers to
>>> >> >> reply-blueyonder.co.uk>
>>> >> >> wrote in messagenews:O6DIJ%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> >> >> > Hi,
>>>
>>> >> >> > I have a workbook that uses the calendar control, mscal.ocx; it
>>> >> >> > works
>>> >> >> > great! but i would like to distribute to various users some of
>>> >> >> > which
>>> >> >> > are
>>> >> >> > unlikely to have that control registered or even installed on
>>> >> >> > their
>>> >> >> > system. does anyone know of a way to automatically /
>>> >> >> > programatically: -
>>> >> >> > 1) install the calendar control if its not present (in the right
>>> >> >> > location)
>>> >> >> > 2) if not registered, register it (all systems will be windows
>>> >> >> > xp)
>>>
>>> >> >> > i would want this to run before opening the workbook. and it
>>> >> >> > would
>>> >> >> > have
>>> >> >> > to be simple installation (ie, i just say 'open workbook xxx'
>>> >> >> > and it
>>> >> >> > all
>>> >> >> > installs automatically!
>>>
>>> >> >> > could i do it with vba in another workbook? if so, could
>>> >> >> > someone
>>> >> >> > give
>>> >> >> > me
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