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Jay Freedman
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> Hello, > > I'm a sys admin with little 'advanced' word knowledge like > macro's/forms etc and was wondering whether this is possible. > > I need to create a document with 4 different variations on one page > only (address of office's), the rest of the document will be exactly > the same. > > Other that using Auto-Text that the user would do manually, can I > create a document with something like a drop down box, that would > automatically > populate say a table on the last page with the relevant address. > > e.g Option 1 in drop down - Office 1 address on back page > > Is this in any way feasible ?- I imagine it can be done with macro's > somehow, but would rather not go down that route if possible and stick > to standard > word features. However, if that's the only way, I'll obviously have to > use it. > > Any advices/ideas/tips/weblinks much appreciated. > > Cheers > Gav Yes, that kind of document can be created. There are quite a few steps, but you need to do them only once (and remember how they were done so you can modify the document when an address changes or a new office has to be added). These instructions are for Word 2003 and earlier. If you have Word 2007, the Forms gadgets are on the Legacy Controls button of the Developer ribbon (and to see that ribbon you have to check the option in the Word Options > Popular dialog), but everything else is the same. Here's where we're going. An IF field consists of four parts: the keyword 'IF', an expression (formula) that can be true or false, a piece of text that will be the field result when the expression is true, and a piece of text that will be the field result when the expression is false. In this case, the true/false expression checks whether the value of the dropdown is equal to one of the office names. That office's address is the "true" result, while another IF field is the "false" result. This nesting continues until each of the possible names has been compared to the dropdown's value. 1. From the Forms toolbar, insert a Dropdown form field on the first page. 2. Double-click the dropdown to open its Properties dialog. 3. Add the names of the four offices to the list. Change the value of the Bookmarks box from Dropdown1 to Office (or to something else descriptive). Check the boxes for "Dropdown enabled" and "Calculate on exit". For this example I'm going to describe just two offices, Los Angeles and New York, and point to how you continue the process to add more. You also must insert at least one other form field, so it becomes possible to tab from one field to another when the document is in use. 4. Create a nested IF field (that is, a field with other fields inside it) in the table on the last page. To create nested fields you must use Ctrl+F9 to create the field markers -- you can't just type the braces, or they won't work. The field is complicated, so let's build it one piece at a time... a. Start by typing a double-quote, the street address, Enter, the city/state/zip, and a closing double-quote for one office. Then press Enter and repeat for each of the other offices. For the two offices it would look something like this: “1902 Rodeo Drive Los Angeles, CA 90018” “435 54th St. New York, NY 10019” b. At the beginning of each address, insert the word IF, the name of the dropdown form field, an equal sign, and the name of the office in double-quotes. The name must match exactly what you typed into the dropdown's list, including capitalization and any punctuation. Now the example looks like this: IF Office = “Los Angeles” “1902 Rodeo Drive Los Angeles, CA 90018” IF Office = “New York” “435 54th St. New York, NY 10019” c. Select the name of the dropdown field in each occurrence, and press Ctrl+F9 to add field markers around it (remember, you can't just type braces!): IF { Office } = “Los Angeles” “1902 Rodeo Drive Los Angeles, CA 90018” IF { Office } = “New York” “435 54th St. New York, NY 10019” d. After the last address, add a space and a pair of double-quotes with nothing between them: IF { Office } = “Los Angeles” “1902 Rodeo Drive Los Angeles, CA 90018” IF { Office } = “New York” “435 54th St. New York, NY 10019” "" e. Select from the beginning of the last IF to the end of the empty quotes, and press Ctrl+F9: IF { Office } = “Los Angeles” “1902 Rodeo Drive Los Angeles, CA 90018” { IF { Office } = “New York” “435 54th St. New York, NY 10019” "" } f. Select from the beginning of the next-to-last IF to the end of the final field marker, and press Ctrl+F9: { IF { Office } = “Los Angeles” “1902 Rodeo Drive Los Angeles, CA 90018” { IF { Office } = “New York” “435 54th St. New York, NY 10019” "" } } When you have more addresses, repeat this, selecting everything from the IF before the one most recently enclosed all the way to the end and then pressing Ctrl+F9. At the very end you should have as many closing braces as you have addresses. g. With the cursor somewhere in the big field, press F9 to update it. It should now show one of the addresses, corresponding to the the office name in the dropdown. 5. Protect the document for forms. In Word 2003 and earlier, click the lock icon on the Forms toolbar. In Word 2007, click the Protect Document button on the Developer ribbon; in the task pane that opens, check the box for "Allow only this type of editing", select "Filling in forms" in the dropdown, and click the Start Enforcing Portection button. 6. Save the document. When you choose an office name in the dropdown and then tab to another form field, the field at the end of the document will change to show the matching address. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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Jay, Thanks a million for this! Perfectly explained as well. Cheers Gav -- GavSmith |
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Hi Jay.
Many thanks for these instructions they came at exactly the right time and I have now created such a auto-text-change. One question though, once the section has been protected and the "Office" dropdown is changed should the "Addresses" change automatically or, as in my case, I get the Update Table of Contents dialog? The dialog appears if I Tab off the dropdown, press ok and the "Addresses" change as per requirements, but if I mouse click into the document elsewhere, the changes do not occur. I was hoping that the changes would happen regardless of how the user moves around the document. 2003 on XP Many thanks DeanH "Jay Freedman" wrote: > GavSmith wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm a sys admin with little 'advanced' word knowledge like > > macro's/forms etc and was wondering whether this is possible. > > > > I need to create a document with 4 different variations on one page > > only (address of office's), the rest of the document will be exactly > > the same. > > > > Other that using Auto-Text that the user would do manually, can I > > create a document with something like a drop down box, that would > > automatically > > populate say a table on the last page with the relevant address. > > > > e.g Option 1 in drop down - Office 1 address on back page > > > > Is this in any way feasible ?- I imagine it can be done with macro's > > somehow, but would rather not go down that route if possible and stick > > to standard > > word features. However, if that's the only way, I'll obviously have to > > use it. > > > > Any advices/ideas/tips/weblinks much appreciated. > > > > Cheers > > Gav > > Yes, that kind of document can be created. There are quite a few steps, but > you need to do them only once (and remember how they were done so you can > modify the document when an address changes or a new office has to be > added). > > These instructions are for Word 2003 and earlier. If you have Word 2007, the > Forms gadgets are on the Legacy Controls button of the Developer ribbon (and > to see that ribbon you have to check the option in the Word Options > > Popular dialog), but everything else is the same. > > Here's where we're going. An IF field consists of four parts: the keyword > 'IF', an expression (formula) that can be true or false, a piece of text > that will be the field result when the expression is true, and a piece of > text that will be the field result when the expression is false. In this > case, the true/false expression checks whether the value of the dropdown is > equal to one of the office names. That office's address is the "true" > result, while another IF field is the "false" result. This nesting continues > until each of the possible names has been compared to the dropdown's value. > > 1. From the Forms toolbar, insert a Dropdown form field on the first page. > > 2. Double-click the dropdown to open its Properties dialog. > > 3. Add the names of the four offices to the list. Change the value of the > Bookmarks box from Dropdown1 to Office (or to something else descriptive). > Check the boxes for "Dropdown enabled" and "Calculate on exit". For this > example I'm going to describe just two offices, Los Angeles and New York, > and point to how you continue the process to add more. You also must insert > at least one other form field, so it becomes possible to tab from one field > to another when the document is in use. > > 4. Create a nested IF field (that is, a field with other fields inside it) > in the table on the last page. To create nested fields you must use Ctrl+F9 > to create the field markers -- you can't just type the braces, or they won't > work. The field is complicated, so let's build it one piece at a time... > > a. Start by typing a double-quote, the street address, Enter, the > city/state/zip, and a closing double-quote for one office. Then press Enter > and repeat for each of the other offices. For the two offices it would look > something like this: > > “1902 Rodeo Drive > > Los Angeles, CA 90018” > > “435 54th St. > > New York, NY 10019” > > > > b. At the beginning of each address, insert the word IF, the name of the > dropdown form field, an equal sign, and the name of the office in > double-quotes. The name must match exactly what you typed into the > dropdown's list, including capitalization and any punctuation. Now the > example looks like this: > > IF Office = “Los Angeles” “1902 Rodeo Drive > > Los Angeles, CA 90018” > > IF Office = “New York” “435 54th St. > > New York, NY 10019” > > > > c. Select the name of the dropdown field in each occurrence, and press > Ctrl+F9 to add field markers around it (remember, you can't just type > braces!): > > IF { Office } = “Los Angeles” “1902 Rodeo Drive > > Los Angeles, CA 90018” > > IF { Office } = “New York” “435 54th St. > > New York, NY 10019” > > > > d. After the last address, add a space and a pair of double-quotes with > nothing between them: > > IF { Office } = “Los Angeles” “1902 Rodeo Drive > > Los Angeles, CA 90018” > > IF { Office } = “New York” “435 54th St. > > New York, NY 10019” "" > > > > e. Select from the beginning of the last IF to the end of the empty quotes, > and press Ctrl+F9: > > IF { Office } = “Los Angeles” “1902 Rodeo Drive > > Los Angeles, CA 90018” > > { IF { Office } = “New York” “435 54th St. > > New York, NY 10019” "" } > > > > f. Select from the beginning of the next-to-last IF to the end of the final > field marker, and press Ctrl+F9: > > { IF { Office } = “Los Angeles” “1902 Rodeo Drive > > Los Angeles, CA 90018” > > { IF { Office } = “New York” “435 54th St. > > New York, NY 10019” "" } } > > When you have more addresses, repeat this, selecting everything from the IF > before the one most recently enclosed all the way to the end and then > pressing Ctrl+F9. At the very end you should have as many closing braces as > you have addresses. > > > > g. With the cursor somewhere in the big field, press F9 to update it. It > should now show one of the addresses, corresponding to the the office name > in the dropdown. > > > > 5. Protect the document for forms. In Word 2003 and earlier, click the lock > icon on the Forms toolbar. In Word 2007, click the Protect Document button > on the Developer ribbon; in the task pane that opens, check the box for > "Allow only this type of editing", select "Filling in forms" in the > dropdown, and click the Start Enforcing Portection button. > > > > 6. Save the document. > > > > When you choose an office name in the dropdown and then tab to another form > field, the field at the end of the document will change to show the matching > address. > > > -- > Regards, > Jay Freedman > Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so > all may benefit. > > > |
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You shouldn't see the Update TOC dialog unless something is forcing an
update of all the fields in the document. Now, what I'm seeing in a very simple document is that simply having a TOC in the document prevents the "Calculate on exit" from updating the address field, regardless of whether I tab or click out of the dropdown. Removing the TOC makes it work again. I don't recall seeing this behavior before. DeanH wrote: > Hi Jay. > Many thanks for these instructions they came at exactly the right > time and I have now created such a auto-text-change. > One question though, once the section has been protected and the > "Office" dropdown is changed should the "Addresses" change > automatically or, as in my case, I get the Update Table of Contents > dialog? > The dialog appears if I Tab off the dropdown, press ok and the > "Addresses" change as per requirements, but if I mouse click into the > document elsewhere, the changes do not occur. > I was hoping that the changes would happen regardless of how the user > moves around the document. > 2003 on XP > Many thanks > DeanH > > "Jay Freedman" wrote: > >> GavSmith wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm a sys admin with little 'advanced' word knowledge like >>> macro's/forms etc and was wondering whether this is possible. >>> >>> I need to create a document with 4 different variations on one page >>> only (address of office's), the rest of the document will be exactly >>> the same. >>> >>> Other that using Auto-Text that the user would do manually, can I >>> create a document with something like a drop down box, that would >>> automatically >>> populate say a table on the last page with the relevant address. >>> >>> e.g Option 1 in drop down - Office 1 address on back page >>> >>> Is this in any way feasible ?- I imagine it can be done with macro's >>> somehow, but would rather not go down that route if possible and >>> stick to standard >>> word features. However, if that's the only way, I'll obviously have >>> to use it. >>> >>> Any advices/ideas/tips/weblinks much appreciated. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Gav >> >> Yes, that kind of document can be created. There are quite a few >> steps, but you need to do them only once (and remember how they were >> done so you can modify the document when an address changes or a new >> office has to be added). >> >> These instructions are for Word 2003 and earlier. If you have Word >> 2007, the Forms gadgets are on the Legacy Controls button of the >> Developer ribbon (and to see that ribbon you have to check the >> option in the Word Options > Popular dialog), but everything else is >> the same. >> >> Here's where we're going. An IF field consists of four parts: the >> keyword 'IF', an expression (formula) that can be true or false, a >> piece of text that will be the field result when the expression is >> true, and a piece of text that will be the field result when the >> expression is false. In this case, the true/false expression checks >> whether the value of the dropdown is equal to one of the office >> names. That office's address is the "true" result, while another IF >> field is the "false" result. This nesting continues until each of >> the possible names has been compared to the dropdown's value. >> >> 1. From the Forms toolbar, insert a Dropdown form field on the first >> page. >> >> 2. Double-click the dropdown to open its Properties dialog. >> >> 3. Add the names of the four offices to the list. Change the value >> of the Bookmarks box from Dropdown1 to Office (or to something else >> descriptive). Check the boxes for "Dropdown enabled" and "Calculate >> on exit". For this example I'm going to describe just two offices, >> Los Angeles and New York, and point to how you continue the process >> to add more. You also must insert at least one other form field, so >> it becomes possible to tab from one field to another when the >> document is in use. >> >> 4. Create a nested IF field (that is, a field with other fields >> inside it) in the table on the last page. To create nested fields >> you must use Ctrl+F9 to create the field markers -- you can't just >> type the braces, or they won't work. The field is complicated, so >> let's build it one piece at a time... >> >> a. Start by typing a double-quote, the street address, Enter, the >> city/state/zip, and a closing double-quote for one office. Then >> press Enter and repeat for each of the other offices. For the two >> offices it would look something like this: >> >> "1902 Rodeo Drive >> >> Los Angeles, CA 90018" >> >> "435 54th St. >> >> New York, NY 10019" >> >> >> >> b. At the beginning of each address, insert the word IF, the name of >> the dropdown form field, an equal sign, and the name of the office in >> double-quotes. The name must match exactly what you typed into the >> dropdown's list, including capitalization and any punctuation. Now >> the example looks like this: >> >> IF Office = "Los Angeles" "1902 Rodeo Drive >> >> Los Angeles, CA 90018" >> >> IF Office = "New York" "435 54th St. >> >> New York, NY 10019" >> >> >> >> c. Select the name of the dropdown field in each occurrence, and >> press Ctrl+F9 to add field markers around it (remember, you can't >> just type braces!): >> >> IF { Office } = "Los Angeles" "1902 Rodeo Drive >> >> Los Angeles, CA 90018" >> >> IF { Office } = "New York" "435 54th St. >> >> New York, NY 10019" >> >> >> >> d. After the last address, add a space and a pair of double-quotes >> with nothing between them: >> >> IF { Office } = "Los Angeles" "1902 Rodeo Drive >> >> Los Angeles, CA 90018" >> >> IF { Office } = "New York" "435 54th St. >> >> New York, NY 10019" "" >> >> >> >> e. Select from the beginning of the last IF to the end of the empty >> quotes, and press Ctrl+F9: >> >> IF { Office } = "Los Angeles" "1902 Rodeo Drive >> >> Los Angeles, CA 90018" >> >> { IF { Office } = "New York" "435 54th St. >> >> New York, NY 10019" "" } >> >> >> >> f. Select from the beginning of the next-to-last IF to the end of >> the final field marker, and press Ctrl+F9: >> >> { IF { Office } = "Los Angeles" "1902 Rodeo Drive >> >> Los Angeles, CA 90018" >> >> { IF { Office } = "New York" "435 54th St. >> >> New York, NY 10019" "" } } >> >> When you have more addresses, repeat this, selecting everything from >> the IF before the one most recently enclosed all the way to the end >> and then pressing Ctrl+F9. At the very end you should have as many >> closing braces as you have addresses. >> >> >> >> g. With the cursor somewhere in the big field, press F9 to update >> it. It should now show one of the addresses, corresponding to the >> the office name in the dropdown. >> >> >> >> 5. Protect the document for forms. In Word 2003 and earlier, click >> the lock icon on the Forms toolbar. In Word 2007, click the Protect >> Document button on the Developer ribbon; in the task pane that >> opens, check the box for "Allow only this type of editing", select >> "Filling in forms" in the dropdown, and click the Start Enforcing >> Portection button. >> >> >> >> 6. Save the document. >> >> >> >> When you choose an office name in the dropdown and then tab to >> another form field, the field at the end of the document will change >> to show the matching address. >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Jay Freedman >> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org >> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the >> newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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Ah, well at least it is not something I did wrong! ;-)
Maybe when this was being developed, they thought that this would only be used in Form type documents, which tend not to have TOCs. The paticular document I am using this function within does have a TOC, which I am disinclined to delete/convert. At least I do have working Auto Conditional Text function, I shall just have to train the users in this particular foible. If you do happen acropss a solution, please pass on (as if you wouldn't) ;-) Many thanks again. DeanH "Jay Freedman" wrote: > You shouldn't see the Update TOC dialog unless something is forcing an > update of all the fields in the document. > > Now, what I'm seeing in a very simple document is that simply having a TOC > in the document prevents the "Calculate on exit" from updating the address > field, regardless of whether I tab or click out of the dropdown. Removing > the TOC makes it work again. I don't recall seeing this behavior before. > > DeanH wrote: > > Hi Jay. > > Many thanks for these instructions they came at exactly the right > > time and I have now created such a auto-text-change. > > One question though, once the section has been protected and the > > "Office" dropdown is changed should the "Addresses" change > > automatically or, as in my case, I get the Update Table of Contents > > dialog? > > The dialog appears if I Tab off the dropdown, press ok and the > > "Addresses" change as per requirements, but if I mouse click into the > > document elsewhere, the changes do not occur. > > I was hoping that the changes would happen regardless of how the user > > moves around the document. > > 2003 on XP > > Many thanks > > DeanH > > > > "Jay Freedman" wrote: > > > >> GavSmith wrote: > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> I'm a sys admin with little 'advanced' word knowledge like > >>> macro's/forms etc and was wondering whether this is possible. > >>> > >>> I need to create a document with 4 different variations on one page > >>> only (address of office's), the rest of the document will be exactly > >>> the same. > >>> > >>> Other that using Auto-Text that the user would do manually, can I > >>> create a document with something like a drop down box, that would > >>> automatically > >>> populate say a table on the last page with the relevant address. > >>> > >>> e.g Option 1 in drop down - Office 1 address on back page > >>> > >>> Is this in any way feasible ?- I imagine it can be done with macro's > >>> somehow, but would rather not go down that route if possible and > >>> stick to standard > >>> word features. However, if that's the only way, I'll obviously have > >>> to use it. > >>> > >>> Any advices/ideas/tips/weblinks much appreciated. > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> Gav > >> > >> Yes, that kind of document can be created. There are quite a few > >> steps, but you need to do them only once (and remember how they were > >> done so you can modify the document when an address changes or a new > >> office has to be added). > >> > >> These instructions are for Word 2003 and earlier. If you have Word > >> 2007, the Forms gadgets are on the Legacy Controls button of the > >> Developer ribbon (and to see that ribbon you have to check the > >> option in the Word Options > Popular dialog), but everything else is > >> the same. > >> > >> Here's where we're going. An IF field consists of four parts: the > >> keyword 'IF', an expression (formula) that can be true or false, a > >> piece of text that will be the field result when the expression is > >> true, and a piece of text that will be the field result when the > >> expression is false. In this case, the true/false expression checks > >> whether the value of the dropdown is equal to one of the office > >> names. That office's address is the "true" result, while another IF > >> field is the "false" result. This nesting continues until each of > >> the possible names has been compared to the dropdown's value. > >> > >> 1. From the Forms toolbar, insert a Dropdown form field on the first > >> page. > >> > >> 2. Double-click the dropdown to open its Properties dialog. > >> > >> 3. Add the names of the four offices to the list. Change the value > >> of the Bookmarks box from Dropdown1 to Office (or to something else > >> descriptive). Check the boxes for "Dropdown enabled" and "Calculate > >> on exit". For this example I'm going to describe just two offices, > >> Los Angeles and New York, and point to how you continue the process > >> to add more. You also must insert at least one other form field, so > >> it becomes possible to tab from one field to another when the > >> document is in use. > >> > >> 4. Create a nested IF field (that is, a field with other fields > >> inside it) in the table on the last page. To create nested fields > >> you must use Ctrl+F9 to create the field markers -- you can't just > >> type the braces, or they won't work. The field is complicated, so > >> let's build it one piece at a time... > >> > >> a. Start by typing a double-quote, the street address, Enter, the > >> city/state/zip, and a closing double-quote for one office. Then > >> press Enter and repeat for each of the other offices. For the two > >> offices it would look something like this: > >> > >> "1902 Rodeo Drive > >> > >> Los Angeles, CA 90018" > >> > >> "435 54th St. > >> > >> New York, NY 10019" > >> > >> > >> > >> b. At the beginning of each address, insert the word IF, the name of > >> the dropdown form field, an equal sign, and the name of the office in > >> double-quotes. The name must match exactly what you typed into the > >> dropdown's list, including capitalization and any punctuation. Now > >> the example looks like this: > >> > >> IF Office = "Los Angeles" "1902 Rodeo Drive > >> > >> Los Angeles, CA 90018" > >> > >> IF Office = "New York" "435 54th St. > >> > >> New York, NY 10019" > >> > >> > >> > >> c. Select the name of the dropdown field in each occurrence, and > >> press Ctrl+F9 to add field markers around it (remember, you can't > >> just type braces!): > >> > >> IF { Office } = "Los Angeles" "1902 Rodeo Drive > >> > >> Los Angeles, CA 90018" > >> > >> IF { Office } = "New York" "435 54th St. > >> > >> New York, NY 10019" > >> > >> > >> > >> d. After the last address, add a space and a pair of double-quotes > >> with nothing between them: > >> > >> IF { Office } = "Los Angeles" "1902 Rodeo Drive > >> > >> Los Angeles, CA 90018" > >> > >> IF { Office } = "New York" "435 54th St. > >> > >> New York, NY 10019" "" > >> > >> > >> > >> e. Select from the beginning of the last IF to the end of the empty > >> quotes, and press Ctrl+F9: > >> > >> IF { Office } = "Los Angeles" "1902 Rodeo Drive > >> > >> Los Angeles, CA 90018" > >> > >> { IF { Office } = "New York" "435 54th St. > >> > >> New York, NY 10019" "" } > >> > >> > >> > >> f. Select from the beginning of the next-to-last IF to the end of > >> the final field marker, and press Ctrl+F9: > >> > >> { IF { Office } = "Los Angeles" "1902 Rodeo Drive > >> > >> Los Angeles, CA 90018" > >> > >> { IF { Office } = "New York" "435 54th St. > >> > >> New York, NY 10019" "" } } > >> > >> When you have more addresses, repeat this, selecting everything from > >> the IF before the one most recently enclosed all the way to the end > >> and then pressing Ctrl+F9. At the very end you should have as many > >> closing braces as you have addresses. > >> > >> > >> > >> g. With the cursor somewhere in the big field, press F9 to update > >> it. It should now show one of the addresses, corresponding to the > >> the office name in the dropdown. > >> > >> > >> > >> 5. Protect the document for forms. In Word 2003 and earlier, click > >> the lock icon on the Forms toolbar. In Word 2007, click the Protect > >> Document button on the Developer ribbon; in the task pane that > >> opens, check the box for "Allow only this type of editing", select > >> "Filling in forms" in the dropdown, and click the Start Enforcing > >> Portection button. > >> > >> > >> > >> 6. Save the document. > >> > >> > >> > >> When you choose an office name in the dropdown and then tab to > >> another form field, the field at the end of the document will change > >> to show the matching address. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Regards, > >> Jay Freedman > >> Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org > >> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the > >> newsgroup so all may benefit. > > > |
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