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KennyT
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      7th Jun 2008
Hi,

My wife makes extensive use of autocorrect (or is it autotext, the two
tables seem interconnected?) where she works as a secretary for multiple
companies (so, for example, she has one for each company which, by just
typing a couple of characters, she can just put in their address as a
"footer" depending on who she's replying on behalf of).

Everything works fine most of the time but then the text starts to get
"corrupted", mostly by unwanted changes in font midway though the inserted
text. So she corrects and swipes the text, goes into the autocorrect table
and replaces the corrupted text and things are fine until, inevitably, they
start to get screwed up again.

Anyone else had this? Better yet, anyone know why it happens? Best of all,
anyone know how to stop it?

TIA

K
 
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Stefan Blom
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      9th Jun 2008
"KennyT" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My wife makes extensive use of autocorrect (or is it autotext, the two
> tables seem interconnected?) where she works as a secretary for multiple
> companies (so, for example, she has one for each company which, by just
> typing a couple of characters, she can just put in their address as a
> "footer" depending on who she's replying on behalf of).
>


The difference between AutoCorrect and AutoText is explained here:
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/customization/AutoText.htm.

> Everything works fine most of the time but then the text starts to get
> "corrupted", mostly by unwanted changes in font midway though the inserted
> text. So she corrects and swipes the text, goes into the autocorrect table
> and replaces the corrupted text and things are fine until, inevitably, they
> start to get screwed up again.
>
> Anyone else had this? Better yet, anyone know why it happens? Best of all,
> anyone know how to stop it?
>


Your wife may want to create the AutoText entries without direct character
formatting (select the text and press Ctrl+SpaceBar); that way, the font
shouldn't change unexpectedly when inserting entries.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP







> TIA
>
> K

 
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KennyT
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      9th Jun 2008

Thanks Stefan.

Unfortunately, the the various companies all have "particular" fonts for
their company name (and the bosses like to have a 'signature-like' font for
their names). Do I take it from your reply that this is a known bug with
formatted text?

K

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

> "KennyT" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > My wife makes extensive use of autocorrect (or is it autotext, the two
> > tables seem interconnected?) where she works as a secretary for multiple
> > companies (so, for example, she has one for each company which, by just
> > typing a couple of characters, she can just put in their address as a
> > "footer" depending on who she's replying on behalf of).
> >

>
> The difference between AutoCorrect and AutoText is explained here:
> http://word.mvps.org/faqs/customization/AutoText.htm.
>
> > Everything works fine most of the time but then the text starts to get
> > "corrupted", mostly by unwanted changes in font midway though the inserted
> > text. So she corrects and swipes the text, goes into the autocorrect table
> > and replaces the corrupted text and things are fine until, inevitably, they
> > start to get screwed up again.
> >
> > Anyone else had this? Better yet, anyone know why it happens? Best of all,
> > anyone know how to stop it?
> >

>
> Your wife may want to create the AutoText entries without direct character
> formatting (select the text and press Ctrl+SpaceBar); that way, the font
> shouldn't change unexpectedly when inserting entries.
>
> --
> Stefan Blom
> Microsoft Word MVP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > TIA
> >
> > K

 
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Stefan Blom
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      9th Jun 2008
No, it's not a bug; I apologize for not being clear in my previous reply.

What happens when you insert an AutoText or a formatted AutoCorrect entry
(or when you paste text between documents) depends on styles as well as on
direct formatting of text.

By default, when inserting an AutoText entry formatted in, say, Normal
style, the formatting of Normal in the target document will be used. This
explains why the font or other character formatting might change.

On the other hand, if the AutoText includes direct formatting (such as a
font applied on top of the paragraph style), that formatting should be
preserved when inserting the AutoText.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"KennyT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:54D20FA7-B699-46CC-A280-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> Thanks Stefan.
>
> Unfortunately, the the various companies all have "particular" fonts for
> their company name (and the bosses like to have a 'signature-like' font
> for
> their names). Do I take it from your reply that this is a known bug with
> formatted text?
>
> K
>
> "Stefan Blom" wrote:
>
>> "KennyT" wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > My wife makes extensive use of autocorrect (or is it autotext, the two
>> > tables seem interconnected?) where she works as a secretary for
>> > multiple
>> > companies (so, for example, she has one for each company which, by just
>> > typing a couple of characters, she can just put in their address as a
>> > "footer" depending on who she's replying on behalf of).
>> >

>>
>> The difference between AutoCorrect and AutoText is explained here:
>> http://word.mvps.org/faqs/customization/AutoText.htm.
>>
>> > Everything works fine most of the time but then the text starts to get
>> > "corrupted", mostly by unwanted changes in font midway though the
>> > inserted
>> > text. So she corrects and swipes the text, goes into the autocorrect
>> > table
>> > and replaces the corrupted text and things are fine until, inevitably,
>> > they
>> > start to get screwed up again.
>> >
>> > Anyone else had this? Better yet, anyone know why it happens? Best of
>> > all,
>> > anyone know how to stop it?
>> >

>>
>> Your wife may want to create the AutoText entries without direct
>> character
>> formatting (select the text and press Ctrl+SpaceBar); that way, the font
>> shouldn't change unexpectedly when inserting entries.
>>
>> --
>> Stefan Blom
>> Microsoft Word MVP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > TIA
>> >
>> > K











 
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KennyT
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      9th Jun 2008

OK, then perhaps I can explain further (bit tricky without formatting in
this message!)...

Some of my wife's entries are things like 'invoice tearoffs'.

e.g.

Dear...

Thank you for your order, please find attached your invoice

(auto insert invoice tearoff ->)

------------------------------------------------------------------
Invoice

Item
Amount

Please make cheque payable to blah blah blah

------------------------------------------------------------------

What happens is that, for example, just one of the words (e.g 'payable' or
'to') changes font (so changes from Arial to Times New Roman, for example) so
the tearoff looks like this (where the CAPITALised word represents the change
in font):


Dear...

Thank you for your order, please find attached your invoice

(auto insert invoice tearoff ->)

------------------------------------------------------------------
Invoice

Item
Amount

Please make cheque PAYABLE to blah blah blah

------------------------------------------------------------------

However, she does use different .DOT files for the various companies, so
perhaps that's the cause of the problem. When she's next at work (later in
the week), and she has the problem, I've asked her to try opening up a
document based on different templates to see if it's a problem for all, or
just some of them.

So, unless you happen to know what's causing it, let's wait until she's done
that experiment...

Many thanks.

K

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

> No, it's not a bug; I apologize for not being clear in my previous reply.
>
> What happens when you insert an AutoText or a formatted AutoCorrect entry
> (or when you paste text between documents) depends on styles as well as on
> direct formatting of text.
>
> By default, when inserting an AutoText entry formatted in, say, Normal
> style, the formatting of Normal in the target document will be used. This
> explains why the font or other character formatting might change.
>
> On the other hand, if the AutoText includes direct formatting (such as a
> font applied on top of the paragraph style), that formatting should be
> preserved when inserting the AutoText.
>
> --
> Stefan Blom
> Microsoft Word MVP
>
>
> "KennyT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:54D20FA7-B699-46CC-A280-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> > Thanks Stefan.
> >
> > Unfortunately, the the various companies all have "particular" fonts for
> > their company name (and the bosses like to have a 'signature-like' font
> > for
> > their names). Do I take it from your reply that this is a known bug with
> > formatted text?
> >
> > K
> >
> > "Stefan Blom" wrote:
> >
> >> "KennyT" wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > My wife makes extensive use of autocorrect (or is it autotext, the two
> >> > tables seem interconnected?) where she works as a secretary for
> >> > multiple
> >> > companies (so, for example, she has one for each company which, by just
> >> > typing a couple of characters, she can just put in their address as a
> >> > "footer" depending on who she's replying on behalf of).
> >> >
> >>
> >> The difference between AutoCorrect and AutoText is explained here:
> >> http://word.mvps.org/faqs/customization/AutoText.htm.
> >>
> >> > Everything works fine most of the time but then the text starts to get
> >> > "corrupted", mostly by unwanted changes in font midway though the
> >> > inserted
> >> > text. So she corrects and swipes the text, goes into the autocorrect
> >> > table
> >> > and replaces the corrupted text and things are fine until, inevitably,
> >> > they
> >> > start to get screwed up again.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone else had this? Better yet, anyone know why it happens? Best of
> >> > all,
> >> > anyone know how to stop it?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Your wife may want to create the AutoText entries without direct
> >> character
> >> formatting (select the text and press Ctrl+SpaceBar); that way, the font
> >> shouldn't change unexpectedly when inserting entries.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Stefan Blom
> >> Microsoft Word MVP
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > TIA
> >> >
> >> > K

>
>
>
>
>
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Stefan Blom
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      10th Jun 2008
It is strange that only a single word in a paragraph is affected. Asking
your wife to test if it happens with all or just a specific template is a
good place to start. If something turns out to be wrong with a particular
template, it should be easy enough to recreate it.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"KennyT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:A99C1370-D839-472A-8680-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> OK, then perhaps I can explain further (bit tricky without formatting in
> this message!)...
>
> Some of my wife's entries are things like 'invoice tearoffs'.
>
> e.g.
>
> Dear...
>
> Thank you for your order, please find attached your invoice
>
> (auto insert invoice tearoff ->)
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Invoice
>
> Item
> Amount
>
> Please make cheque payable to blah blah blah
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> What happens is that, for example, just one of the words (e.g 'payable' or
> 'to') changes font (so changes from Arial to Times New Roman, for example)
> so
> the tearoff looks like this (where the CAPITALised word represents the
> change
> in font):
>
>
> Dear...
>
> Thank you for your order, please find attached your invoice
>
> (auto insert invoice tearoff ->)
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Invoice
>
> Item
> Amount
>
> Please make cheque PAYABLE to blah blah blah
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> However, she does use different .DOT files for the various companies, so
> perhaps that's the cause of the problem. When she's next at work (later
> in
> the week), and she has the problem, I've asked her to try opening up a
> document based on different templates to see if it's a problem for all, or
> just some of them.
>
> So, unless you happen to know what's causing it, let's wait until she's
> done
> that experiment...
>
> Many thanks.
>
> K
>
> "Stefan Blom" wrote:
>
>> No, it's not a bug; I apologize for not being clear in my previous reply.
>>
>> What happens when you insert an AutoText or a formatted AutoCorrect entry
>> (or when you paste text between documents) depends on styles as well as
>> on
>> direct formatting of text.
>>
>> By default, when inserting an AutoText entry formatted in, say, Normal
>> style, the formatting of Normal in the target document will be used. This
>> explains why the font or other character formatting might change.
>>
>> On the other hand, if the AutoText includes direct formatting (such as a
>> font applied on top of the paragraph style), that formatting should be
>> preserved when inserting the AutoText.
>>
>> --
>> Stefan Blom
>> Microsoft Word MVP
>>
>>
>> "KennyT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:54D20FA7-B699-46CC-A280-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >
>> > Thanks Stefan.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately, the the various companies all have "particular" fonts
>> > for
>> > their company name (and the bosses like to have a 'signature-like' font
>> > for
>> > their names). Do I take it from your reply that this is a known bug
>> > with
>> > formatted text?
>> >
>> > K
>> >
>> > "Stefan Blom" wrote:
>> >
>> >> "KennyT" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > My wife makes extensive use of autocorrect (or is it autotext, the
>> >> > two
>> >> > tables seem interconnected?) where she works as a secretary for
>> >> > multiple
>> >> > companies (so, for example, she has one for each company which, by
>> >> > just
>> >> > typing a couple of characters, she can just put in their address as
>> >> > a
>> >> > "footer" depending on who she's replying on behalf of).
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> The difference between AutoCorrect and AutoText is explained here:
>> >> http://word.mvps.org/faqs/customization/AutoText.htm.
>> >>
>> >> > Everything works fine most of the time but then the text starts to
>> >> > get
>> >> > "corrupted", mostly by unwanted changes in font midway though the
>> >> > inserted
>> >> > text. So she corrects and swipes the text, goes into the
>> >> > autocorrect
>> >> > table
>> >> > and replaces the corrupted text and things are fine until,
>> >> > inevitably,
>> >> > they
>> >> > start to get screwed up again.
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyone else had this? Better yet, anyone know why it happens? Best
>> >> > of
>> >> > all,
>> >> > anyone know how to stop it?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Your wife may want to create the AutoText entries without direct
>> >> character
>> >> formatting (select the text and press Ctrl+SpaceBar); that way, the
>> >> font
>> >> shouldn't change unexpectedly when inserting entries.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Stefan Blom
>> >> Microsoft Word MVP
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > TIA
>> >> >
>> >> > K

>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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      10th Jun 2008
My suspicion, at the moment, is that some 'autocorrect' strings are stored
twice, once in normal.dot and once (slightly corrupted) in a particular
letterhead.dot. So the corrupted string only gets chosen in particular
templates. The experiment should verify that. She's back at work tomorrow...

K

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

> It is strange that only a single word in a paragraph is affected. Asking
> your wife to test if it happens with all or just a specific template is a
> good place to start. If something turns out to be wrong with a particular
> template, it should be easy enough to recreate it.
>
> --
> Stefan Blom
> Microsoft Word MVP
>
>
> "KennyT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:A99C1370-D839-472A-8680-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> > OK, then perhaps I can explain further (bit tricky without formatting in
> > this message!)...
> >
> > Some of my wife's entries are things like 'invoice tearoffs'.
> >
> > e.g.
> >
> > Dear...
> >
> > Thank you for your order, please find attached your invoice
> >
> > (auto insert invoice tearoff ->)
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Invoice
> >
> > Item
> > Amount
> >
> > Please make cheque payable to blah blah blah
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > What happens is that, for example, just one of the words (e.g 'payable' or
> > 'to') changes font (so changes from Arial to Times New Roman, for example)
> > so
> > the tearoff looks like this (where the CAPITALised word represents the
> > change
> > in font):
> >
> >
> > Dear...
> >
> > Thank you for your order, please find attached your invoice
> >
> > (auto insert invoice tearoff ->)
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Invoice
> >
> > Item
> > Amount
> >
> > Please make cheque PAYABLE to blah blah blah
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > However, she does use different .DOT files for the various companies, so
> > perhaps that's the cause of the problem. When she's next at work (later
> > in
> > the week), and she has the problem, I've asked her to try opening up a
> > document based on different templates to see if it's a problem for all, or
> > just some of them.
> >
> > So, unless you happen to know what's causing it, let's wait until she's
> > done
> > that experiment...
> >
> > Many thanks.
> >
> > K
> >
> > "Stefan Blom" wrote:
> >
> >> No, it's not a bug; I apologize for not being clear in my previous reply.
> >>
> >> What happens when you insert an AutoText or a formatted AutoCorrect entry
> >> (or when you paste text between documents) depends on styles as well as
> >> on
> >> direct formatting of text.
> >>
> >> By default, when inserting an AutoText entry formatted in, say, Normal
> >> style, the formatting of Normal in the target document will be used. This
> >> explains why the font or other character formatting might change.
> >>
> >> On the other hand, if the AutoText includes direct formatting (such as a
> >> font applied on top of the paragraph style), that formatting should be
> >> preserved when inserting the AutoText.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Stefan Blom
> >> Microsoft Word MVP
> >>
> >>
> >> "KennyT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:54D20FA7-B699-46CC-A280-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >
> >> > Thanks Stefan.
> >> >
> >> > Unfortunately, the the various companies all have "particular" fonts
> >> > for
> >> > their company name (and the bosses like to have a 'signature-like' font
> >> > for
> >> > their names). Do I take it from your reply that this is a known bug
> >> > with
> >> > formatted text?
> >> >
> >> > K
> >> >
> >> > "Stefan Blom" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "KennyT" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > My wife makes extensive use of autocorrect (or is it autotext, the
> >> >> > two
> >> >> > tables seem interconnected?) where she works as a secretary for
> >> >> > multiple
> >> >> > companies (so, for example, she has one for each company which, by
> >> >> > just
> >> >> > typing a couple of characters, she can just put in their address as
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > "footer" depending on who she's replying on behalf of).
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> The difference between AutoCorrect and AutoText is explained here:
> >> >> http://word.mvps.org/faqs/customization/AutoText.htm.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Everything works fine most of the time but then the text starts to
> >> >> > get
> >> >> > "corrupted", mostly by unwanted changes in font midway though the
> >> >> > inserted
> >> >> > text. So she corrects and swipes the text, goes into the
> >> >> > autocorrect
> >> >> > table
> >> >> > and replaces the corrupted text and things are fine until,
> >> >> > inevitably,
> >> >> > they
> >> >> > start to get screwed up again.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Anyone else had this? Better yet, anyone know why it happens? Best
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > all,
> >> >> > anyone know how to stop it?
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Your wife may want to create the AutoText entries without direct
> >> >> character
> >> >> formatting (select the text and press Ctrl+SpaceBar); that way, the
> >> >> font
> >> >> shouldn't change unexpectedly when inserting entries.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Stefan Blom
> >> >> Microsoft Word MVP
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > TIA
> >> >> >
> >> >> > K
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

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      11th Jun 2008
OK, as suspected, the autocorrect works in a blank document (normal.dot) but
not in a specific letterhead.dot. So, assuming there is a corrupted
autocorrect entry in the letterhead.dot file, how should she remove it?

K

"KennyT" wrote:

> My suspicion, at the moment, is that some 'autocorrect' strings are stored
> twice, once in normal.dot and once (slightly corrupted) in a particular
> letterhead.dot. So the corrupted string only gets chosen in particular
> templates. The experiment should verify that. She's back at work tomorrow...
>
> K
>
> "Stefan Blom" wrote:
>
> > It is strange that only a single word in a paragraph is affected. Asking
> > your wife to test if it happens with all or just a specific template is a
> > good place to start. If something turns out to be wrong with a particular
> > template, it should be easy enough to recreate it.
> >
> > --
> > Stefan Blom
> > Microsoft Word MVP
> >
> >
> > "KennyT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:A99C1370-D839-472A-8680-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >
> > > OK, then perhaps I can explain further (bit tricky without formatting in
> > > this message!)...
> > >
> > > Some of my wife's entries are things like 'invoice tearoffs'.
> > >
> > > e.g.
> > >
> > > Dear...
> > >
> > > Thank you for your order, please find attached your invoice
> > >
> > > (auto insert invoice tearoff ->)
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Invoice
> > >
> > > Item
> > > Amount
> > >
> > > Please make cheque payable to blah blah blah
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > What happens is that, for example, just one of the words (e.g 'payable' or
> > > 'to') changes font (so changes from Arial to Times New Roman, for example)
> > > so
> > > the tearoff looks like this (where the CAPITALised word represents the
> > > change
> > > in font):
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear...
> > >
> > > Thank you for your order, please find attached your invoice
> > >
> > > (auto insert invoice tearoff ->)
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Invoice
> > >
> > > Item
> > > Amount
> > >
> > > Please make cheque PAYABLE to blah blah blah
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > However, she does use different .DOT files for the various companies, so
> > > perhaps that's the cause of the problem. When she's next at work (later
> > > in
> > > the week), and she has the problem, I've asked her to try opening up a
> > > document based on different templates to see if it's a problem for all, or
> > > just some of them.
> > >
> > > So, unless you happen to know what's causing it, let's wait until she's
> > > done
> > > that experiment...
> > >
> > > Many thanks.
> > >
> > > K
> > >
> > > "Stefan Blom" wrote:
> > >
> > >> No, it's not a bug; I apologize for not being clear in my previous reply.
> > >>
> > >> What happens when you insert an AutoText or a formatted AutoCorrect entry
> > >> (or when you paste text between documents) depends on styles as well as
> > >> on
> > >> direct formatting of text.
> > >>
> > >> By default, when inserting an AutoText entry formatted in, say, Normal
> > >> style, the formatting of Normal in the target document will be used. This
> > >> explains why the font or other character formatting might change.
> > >>
> > >> On the other hand, if the AutoText includes direct formatting (such as a
> > >> font applied on top of the paragraph style), that formatting should be
> > >> preserved when inserting the AutoText.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Stefan Blom
> > >> Microsoft Word MVP
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "KennyT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > >> news:54D20FA7-B699-46CC-A280-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks Stefan.
> > >> >
> > >> > Unfortunately, the the various companies all have "particular" fonts
> > >> > for
> > >> > their company name (and the bosses like to have a 'signature-like' font
> > >> > for
> > >> > their names). Do I take it from your reply that this is a known bug
> > >> > with
> > >> > formatted text?
> > >> >
> > >> > K
> > >> >
> > >> > "Stefan Blom" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> "KennyT" wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Hi,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > My wife makes extensive use of autocorrect (or is it autotext, the
> > >> >> > two
> > >> >> > tables seem interconnected?) where she works as a secretary for
> > >> >> > multiple
> > >> >> > companies (so, for example, she has one for each company which, by
> > >> >> > just
> > >> >> > typing a couple of characters, she can just put in their address as
> > >> >> > a
> > >> >> > "footer" depending on who she's replying on behalf of).
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The difference between AutoCorrect and AutoText is explained here:
> > >> >> http://word.mvps.org/faqs/customization/AutoText.htm.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Everything works fine most of the time but then the text starts to
> > >> >> > get
> > >> >> > "corrupted", mostly by unwanted changes in font midway though the
> > >> >> > inserted
> > >> >> > text. So she corrects and swipes the text, goes into the
> > >> >> > autocorrect
> > >> >> > table
> > >> >> > and replaces the corrupted text and things are fine until,
> > >> >> > inevitably,
> > >> >> > they
> > >> >> > start to get screwed up again.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Anyone else had this? Better yet, anyone know why it happens? Best
> > >> >> > of
> > >> >> > all,
> > >> >> > anyone know how to stop it?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Your wife may want to create the AutoText entries without direct
> > >> >> character
> > >> >> formatting (select the text and press Ctrl+SpaceBar); that way, the
> > >> >> font
> > >> >> shouldn't change unexpectedly when inserting entries.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Stefan Blom
> > >> >> Microsoft Word MVP
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > TIA
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > K
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>

> >
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      11th Jun 2008
Since AutoCorrect is saved only in Normal.dot (if formatted) or .acl files
(if unformatted), I don't see how any could be stored in a letterhead.dot.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"KennyT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:94376C7A-8B36-40BA-997C-(E-Mail Removed)...
> OK, as suspected, the autocorrect works in a blank document (normal.dot)
> but
> not in a specific letterhead.dot. So, assuming there is a corrupted
> autocorrect entry in the letterhead.dot file, how should she remove it?
>
> K
>
> "KennyT" wrote:
>
>> My suspicion, at the moment, is that some 'autocorrect' strings are
>> stored
>> twice, once in normal.dot and once (slightly corrupted) in a particular
>> letterhead.dot. So the corrupted string only gets chosen in particular
>> templates. The experiment should verify that. She's back at work
>> tomorrow...
>>
>> K
>>
>> "Stefan Blom" wrote:
>>
>> > It is strange that only a single word in a paragraph is affected.
>> > Asking
>> > your wife to test if it happens with all or just a specific template is
>> > a
>> > good place to start. If something turns out to be wrong with a
>> > particular
>> > template, it should be easy enough to recreate it.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Stefan Blom
>> > Microsoft Word MVP
>> >
>> >
>> > "KennyT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:A99C1370-D839-472A-8680-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > >
>> > > OK, then perhaps I can explain further (bit tricky without formatting
>> > > in
>> > > this message!)...
>> > >
>> > > Some of my wife's entries are things like 'invoice tearoffs'.
>> > >
>> > > e.g.
>> > >
>> > > Dear...
>> > >
>> > > Thank you for your order, please find attached your invoice
>> > >
>> > > (auto insert invoice tearoff ->)
>> > >
>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > Invoice
>> > >
>> > > Item
>> > > Amount
>> > >
>> > > Please make cheque payable to blah blah blah
>> > >
>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >
>> > > What happens is that, for example, just one of the words (e.g
>> > > 'payable' or
>> > > 'to') changes font (so changes from Arial to Times New Roman, for
>> > > example)
>> > > so
>> > > the tearoff looks like this (where the CAPITALised word represents
>> > > the
>> > > change
>> > > in font):
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Dear...
>> > >
>> > > Thank you for your order, please find attached your invoice
>> > >
>> > > (auto insert invoice tearoff ->)
>> > >
>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > Invoice
>> > >
>> > > Item
>> > > Amount
>> > >
>> > > Please make cheque PAYABLE to blah blah blah
>> > >
>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >
>> > > However, she does use different .DOT files for the various companies,
>> > > so
>> > > perhaps that's the cause of the problem. When she's next at work
>> > > (later
>> > > in
>> > > the week), and she has the problem, I've asked her to try opening up
>> > > a
>> > > document based on different templates to see if it's a problem for
>> > > all, or
>> > > just some of them.
>> > >
>> > > So, unless you happen to know what's causing it, let's wait until
>> > > she's
>> > > done
>> > > that experiment...
>> > >
>> > > Many thanks.
>> > >
>> > > K
>> > >
>> > > "Stefan Blom" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> No, it's not a bug; I apologize for not being clear in my previous
>> > >> reply.
>> > >>
>> > >> What happens when you insert an AutoText or a formatted AutoCorrect
>> > >> entry
>> > >> (or when you paste text between documents) depends on styles as well
>> > >> as
>> > >> on
>> > >> direct formatting of text.
>> > >>
>> > >> By default, when inserting an AutoText entry formatted in, say,
>> > >> Normal
>> > >> style, the formatting of Normal in the target document will be used.
>> > >> This
>> > >> explains why the font or other character formatting might change.
>> > >>
>> > >> On the other hand, if the AutoText includes direct formatting (such
>> > >> as a
>> > >> font applied on top of the paragraph style), that formatting should
>> > >> be
>> > >> preserved when inserting the AutoText.
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Stefan Blom
>> > >> Microsoft Word MVP
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "KennyT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > >> news:54D20FA7-B699-46CC-A280-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Thanks Stefan.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Unfortunately, the the various companies all have "particular"
>> > >> > fonts
>> > >> > for
>> > >> > their company name (and the bosses like to have a 'signature-like'
>> > >> > font
>> > >> > for
>> > >> > their names). Do I take it from your reply that this is a known
>> > >> > bug
>> > >> > with
>> > >> > formatted text?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > K
>> > >> >
>> > >> > "Stefan Blom" wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> "KennyT" wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> > Hi,
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > My wife makes extensive use of autocorrect (or is it autotext,
>> > >> >> > the
>> > >> >> > two
>> > >> >> > tables seem interconnected?) where she works as a secretary for
>> > >> >> > multiple
>> > >> >> > companies (so, for example, she has one for each company which,
>> > >> >> > by
>> > >> >> > just
>> > >> >> > typing a couple of characters, she can just put in their
>> > >> >> > address as
>> > >> >> > a
>> > >> >> > "footer" depending on who she's replying on behalf of).
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> The difference between AutoCorrect and AutoText is explained
>> > >> >> here:
>> > >> >> http://word.mvps.org/faqs/customization/AutoText.htm.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> > Everything works fine most of the time but then the text starts
>> > >> >> > to
>> > >> >> > get
>> > >> >> > "corrupted", mostly by unwanted changes in font midway though
>> > >> >> > the
>> > >> >> > inserted
>> > >> >> > text. So she corrects and swipes the text, goes into the
>> > >> >> > autocorrect
>> > >> >> > table
>> > >> >> > and replaces the corrupted text and things are fine until,
>> > >> >> > inevitably,
>> > >> >> > they
>> > >> >> > start to get screwed up again.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Anyone else had this? Better yet, anyone know why it happens?
>> > >> >> > Best
>> > >> >> > of
>> > >> >> > all,
>> > >> >> > anyone know how to stop it?
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Your wife may want to create the AutoText entries without direct
>> > >> >> character
>> > >> >> formatting (select the text and press Ctrl+SpaceBar); that way,
>> > >> >> the
>> > >> >> font
>> > >> >> shouldn't change unexpectedly when inserting entries.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> --
>> > >> >> Stefan Blom
>> > >> >> Microsoft Word MVP
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> > TIA
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > K
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> >
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      11th Jun 2008
OK, I'm still unsure whether I'm correctly referring to this as autocorrect
or autotext. Are autotext entries possibly stored in individual .DOTs?

K

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

> Since AutoCorrect is saved only in Normal.dot (if formatted) or .acl files
> (if unformatted), I don't see how any could be stored in a letterhead.dot.
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>
> "KennyT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:94376C7A-8B36-40BA-997C-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > OK, as suspected, the autocorrect works in a blank document (normal.dot)
> > but
> > not in a specific letterhead.dot. So, assuming there is a corrupted
> > autocorrect entry in the letterhead.dot file, how should she remove it?
> >
> > K
> >
> > "KennyT" wrote:
> >
> >> My suspicion, at the moment, is that some 'autocorrect' strings are
> >> stored
> >> twice, once in normal.dot and once (slightly corrupted) in a particular
> >> letterhead.dot. So the corrupted string only gets chosen in particular
> >> templates. The experiment should verify that. She's back at work
> >> tomorrow...
> >>
> >> K
> >>
> >> "Stefan Blom" wrote:
> >>
> >> > It is strange that only a single word in a paragraph is affected.
> >> > Asking
> >> > your wife to test if it happens with all or just a specific template is
> >> > a
> >> > good place to start. If something turns out to be wrong with a
> >> > particular
> >> > template, it should be easy enough to recreate it.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Stefan Blom
> >> > Microsoft Word MVP
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "KennyT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > news:A99C1370-D839-472A-8680-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > >
> >> > > OK, then perhaps I can explain further (bit tricky without formatting
> >> > > in
> >> > > this message!)...
> >> > >
> >> > > Some of my wife's entries are things like 'invoice tearoffs'.
> >> > >
> >> > > e.g.
> >> > >
> >> > > Dear...
> >> > >
> >> > > Thank you for your order, please find attached your invoice
> >> > >
> >> > > (auto insert invoice tearoff ->)
> >> > >
> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > > Invoice
> >> > >
> >> > > Item
> >> > > Amount
> >> > >
> >> > > Please make cheque payable to blah blah blah
> >> > >
> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > > What happens is that, for example, just one of the words (e.g
> >> > > 'payable' or
> >> > > 'to') changes font (so changes from Arial to Times New Roman, for
> >> > > example)
> >> > > so
> >> > > the tearoff looks like this (where the CAPITALised word represents
> >> > > the
> >> > > change
> >> > > in font):
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Dear...
> >> > >
> >> > > Thank you for your order, please find attached your invoice
> >> > >
> >> > > (auto insert invoice tearoff ->)
> >> > >
> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > > Invoice
> >> > >
> >> > > Item
> >> > > Amount
> >> > >
> >> > > Please make cheque PAYABLE to blah blah blah
> >> > >
> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > > However, she does use different .DOT files for the various companies,
> >> > > so
> >> > > perhaps that's the cause of the problem. When she's next at work
> >> > > (later
> >> > > in
> >> > > the week), and she has the problem, I've asked her to try opening up
> >> > > a
> >> > > document based on different templates to see if it's a problem for
> >> > > all, or
> >> > > just some of them.
> >> > >
> >> > > So, unless you happen to know what's causing it, let's wait until
> >> > > she's
> >> > > done
> >> > > that experiment...
> >> > >
> >> > > Many thanks.
> >> > >
> >> > > K
> >> > >
> >> > > "Stefan Blom" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> No, it's not a bug; I apologize for not being clear in my previous
> >> > >> reply.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> What happens when you insert an AutoText or a formatted AutoCorrect
> >> > >> entry
> >> > >> (or when you paste text between documents) depends on styles as well
> >> > >> as
> >> > >> on
> >> > >> direct formatting of text.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> By default, when inserting an AutoText entry formatted in, say,
> >> > >> Normal
> >> > >> style, the formatting of Normal in the target document will be used.
> >> > >> This
> >> > >> explains why the font or other character formatting might change.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On the other hand, if the AutoText includes direct formatting (such
> >> > >> as a
> >> > >> font applied on top of the paragraph style), that formatting should
> >> > >> be
> >> > >> preserved when inserting the AutoText.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Stefan Blom
> >> > >> Microsoft Word MVP
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "KennyT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:54D20FA7-B699-46CC-A280-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Thanks Stefan.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Unfortunately, the the various companies all have "particular"
> >> > >> > fonts
> >> > >> > for
> >> > >> > their company name (and the bosses like to have a 'signature-like'
> >> > >> > font
> >> > >> > for
> >> > >> > their names). Do I take it from your reply that this is a known
> >> > >> > bug
> >> > >> > with
> >> > >> > formatted text?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > K
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > "Stefan Blom" wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >> "KennyT" wrote:
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> > Hi,
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > My wife makes extensive use of autocorrect (or is it autotext,
> >> > >> >> > the
> >> > >> >> > two
> >> > >> >> > tables seem interconnected?) where she works as a secretary for
> >> > >> >> > multiple
> >> > >> >> > companies (so, for example, she has one for each company which,
> >> > >> >> > by
> >> > >> >> > just
> >> > >> >> > typing a couple of characters, she can just put in their
> >> > >> >> > address as
> >> > >> >> > a
> >> > >> >> > "footer" depending on who she's replying on behalf of).
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> The difference between AutoCorrect and AutoText is explained
> >> > >> >> here:
> >> > >> >> http://word.mvps.org/faqs/customization/AutoText.htm.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> > Everything works fine most of the time but then the text starts
> >> > >> >> > to
> >> > >> >> > get
> >> > >> >> > "corrupted", mostly by unwanted changes in font midway though
> >> > >> >> > the
> >> > >> >> > inserted
> >> > >> >> > text. So she corrects and swipes the text, goes into the
> >> > >> >> > autocorrect
> >> > >> >> > table
> >> > >> >> > and replaces the corrupted text and things are fine until,
> >> > >> >> > inevitably,
> >> > >> >> > they
> >> > >> >> > start to get screwed up again.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Anyone else had this? Better yet, anyone know why it happens?
> >> > >> >> > Best
> >> > >> >> > of
> >> > >> >> > all,
> >> > >> >> > anyone know how to stop it?
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Your wife may want to create the AutoText entries without direct
> >> > >> >> character
> >> > >> >> formatting (select the text and press Ctrl+SpaceBar); that way,
> >> > >> >> the
> >> > >> >> font
> >> > >> >> shouldn't change unexpectedly when inserting entries.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> --
> >> > >> >> Stefan Blom
> >> > >> >> Microsoft Word MVP
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> > TIA
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > K
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
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