I have defender set to auto start but it does not. Even when I start it
manually it shuts down by closing the window. Shouldn't it start and stay on
unless intentionally shut down? Not much good if it is not on.

Running WinXP Professional with ZoneLab firewall.
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DonG

Hello Don,

Make certain that you are using the administrator account that installed the
ªpp.

You can repair Windows Defender using Add or Remove Programs in Control
Panel. Click WD and click Change. Click Next, and then click Updªte.

Let us know how it works ºut.
Еиçеl
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"DonG" wrote:

> I have defender set to auto start but it does not. Even when I start it
> manually it shuts down by closing the window. Shouldn't it start and stay on
> unless intentionally shut down? Not much good if it is not on.
>
> Running WinXP Professional with ZoneLab firewall.
> --
> DonG

The way this works is a source of great confusion.

If you hit ctrl-alt-delete and look at running processes, you should find
both msmpeng.exe and msascui.exe both listed as running.

In Windows Defender--real-time protection is done by a system service,
starting at boot time--that's the Windows Defender service, whose executable
is msmpeng.exe.

There is no icon present in the tray unless user attention is needed--but
the apps are running and you are protected.

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"DonG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:9A6DD6A7-E0D8-4E0D-8C3C-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have defender set to auto start but it does not. Even when I start it
> manually it shuts down by closing the window. Shouldn't it start and stay
> on
> unless intentionally shut down? Not much good if it is not on.
>
> Running WinXP Professional with ZoneLab firewall.
> --
> DonG

Bill,

Thanks!

msmpeng.exe and msascui.exe are BOTH running processes with no icon present
on the task bar. Per your reply I will assume I am protected. This is all
to keep my son from using keylogging SW to get my password again so I guess
it is time to test Defender.

One problem. What you implied is true from my admin account but when I
switch to my son's limited XP prof account ONLY msacui.exe is running. I am
concerned that I don't see both processes running on limited accounts. Any
Clue?

I am using XP fast user swithcing if that has anything to do with it.

Thanks again
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DonG


"Bill Sanderson" wrote:

> The way this works is a source of great confusion.
>
> If you hit ctrl-alt-delete and look at running processes, you should find
> both msmpeng.exe and msascui.exe both listed as running.
>
> In Windows Defender--real-time protection is done by a system service,
> starting at boot time--that's the Windows Defender service, whose executable
> is msmpeng.exe.
>
> There is no icon present in the tray unless user attention is needed--but
> the apps are running and you are protected.
>
> --
>
> "DonG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:9A6DD6A7-E0D8-4E0D-8C3C-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I have defender set to auto start but it does not. Even when I start it
> > manually it shuts down by closing the window. Shouldn't it start and stay
> > on
> > unless intentionally shut down? Not much good if it is not on.
> >
> > Running WinXP Professional with ZoneLab firewall.
> > --
> > DonG
>
>
>

The Windows Defender service, MSMPENG.exe, runs as a system service. So--it
is independent of your sons limited account. You should take careful note
of the checkbox at the very bottom of Tools, General settings--scroll all
the way down. You definitely want this checkbox unchecked in your
situation--that is the default, I believe.

So--I believe the service is running--As I recall, task manager shows only
processes running in the current user context. When I run it as an
administrator, there's a checkbox at the bottom left to show processes for
all users. I suspect that checkbox is not there when you run it under your
sons limited user account.


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"DonG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:34AEB051-8B07-4FCA-91BB-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Bill,
>
> Thanks!
>
> msmpeng.exe and msascui.exe are BOTH running processes with no icon
> present
> on the task bar. Per your reply I will assume I am protected. This is
> all
> to keep my son from using keylogging SW to get my password again so I
> guess
> it is time to test Defender.
>
> One problem. What you implied is true from my admin account but when I
> switch to my son's limited XP prof account ONLY msacui.exe is running. I
> am
> concerned that I don't see both processes running on limited accounts.
> Any
> Clue?
>
> I am using XP fast user swithcing if that has anything to do with it.
>
> Thanks again
> --
> DonG
>
>
> "Bill Sanderson" wrote:
>
>> The way this works is a source of great confusion.
>>
>> If you hit ctrl-alt-delete and look at running processes, you should find
>> both msmpeng.exe and msascui.exe both listed as running.
>>
>> In Windows Defender--real-time protection is done by a system service,
>> starting at boot time--that's the Windows Defender service, whose
>> executable
>> is msmpeng.exe.
>>
>> There is no icon present in the tray unless user attention is needed--but
>> the apps are running and you are protected.
>>
>> --
>>
>> "DonG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:9A6DD6A7-E0D8-4E0D-8C3C-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >I have defender set to auto start but it does not. Even when I start it
>> > manually it shuts down by closing the window. Shouldn't it start and
>> > stay
>> > on
>> > unless intentionally shut down? Not much good if it is not on.
>> >
>> > Running WinXP Professional with ZoneLab firewall.
>> > --
>> > DonG
>>
>>
>>