Hi,

I'm aware of a number of threads concerning this subject, but I still can't
quite work out what's going on here.

I have created a new form and published it to a server filesystem as a .oft
file. I have then created a button in a toolbar and assigned a URL that
points to the .oft file - so far so good. However, when I use the button a
new message is created using my template without a signature. However, when
a colleague uses the same template via a button in the same way, his
signature is 'prepended' onto the top of the message. Both of us have
similar sigs that are set as the signature for new messages.

Here's what I'd really like.

1. The autosig to be added at the end of the template (but I believe this
is impossible - seems like the sort of place you'd want a sig though)

2. The autosig to be inhibited for templates. I have implemented the
NoAutosigOnCustomForms optin but this appears to have no effect.

3. I'd like to understand why my system behave differently to my colleagues.
I created the template (if it makes any difference)

Both using Outlook 2003, SP1

#1 and #2 are contradictory. Maybe you can explain a little more clearly.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Mark Howells" <Mark (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:03E6157E-BE93-4EE1-B707-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
>
> I'm aware of a number of threads concerning this subject, but I still can't
> quite work out what's going on here.
>
> I have created a new form and published it to a server filesystem as a ..oft
> file. I have then created a button in a toolbar and assigned a URL that
> points to the .oft file - so far so good. However, when I use the button a
> new message is created using my template without a signature. However, when
> a colleague uses the same template via a button in the same way, his
> signature is 'prepended' onto the top of the message. Both of us have
> similar sigs that are set as the signature for new messages.
>
> Here's what I'd really like.
>
> 1. The autosig to be added at the end of the template (but I believe this
> is impossible - seems like the sort of place you'd want a sig though)
>
> 2. The autosig to be inhibited for templates. I have implemented the
> NoAutosigOnCustomForms optin but this appears to have no effect.
>
> 3. I'd like to understand why my system behave differently to my colleagues.
> I created the template (if it makes any difference)
>
> Both using Outlook 2003, SP1

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

> #1 and #2 are contradictory. Maybe you can explain a little more clearly.

Sure, sorry.

1. If the autosig is added at all, I'd like it to be after the template
body, not before it. (I believe that this is just impossible, but it's what
I would like ...

2. If #1 is impossible, I'd like to inhibit the insertion of the sig. when
my template is used. Not ideal but less annoying for users than either
inhibiting ALL autosigs or having to delete the inserted sig from the new
message.

Cheers

Mark

> --
> Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
> Author of
> Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
> Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
> http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
>
>
> "Mark Howells" <Mark (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:03E6157E-BE93-4EE1-B707-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm aware of a number of threads concerning this subject, but I still can't
> > quite work out what's going on here.
> >
> > I have created a new form and published it to a server filesystem as a ..oft
> > file. I have then created a button in a toolbar and assigned a URL that
> > points to the .oft file - so far so good. However, when I use the button a
> > new message is created using my template without a signature. However, when
> > a colleague uses the same template via a button in the same way, his
> > signature is 'prepended' onto the top of the message. Both of us have
> > similar sigs that are set as the signature for new messages.
> >
> > Here's what I'd really like.
> >
> > 1. The autosig to be added at the end of the template (but I believe this
> > is impossible - seems like the sort of place you'd want a sig though)
> >
> > 2. The autosig to be inhibited for templates. I have implemented the
> > NoAutosigOnCustomForms optin but this appears to have no effect.
> >
> > 3. I'd like to understand why my system behave differently to my colleagues.
> > I created the template (if it makes any difference)
> >
> > Both using Outlook 2003, SP1
>

1) It is not possible to control the position.

2) NoAutosigOnCustomForms is the available solution. It affects only custom forms, not regular messages.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Mark Howells" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:C59BC9C7-98BC-4D36-9E07-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
> "Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
>
>> #1 and #2 are contradictory. Maybe you can explain a little more clearly.
>
> Sure, sorry.
>
> 1. If the autosig is added at all, I'd like it to be after the template
> body, not before it. (I believe that this is just impossible, but it's what
> I would like ...
>
> 2. If #1 is impossible, I'd like to inhibit the insertion of the sig. when
> my template is used. Not ideal but less annoying for users than either
> inhibiting ALL autosigs or having to delete the inserted sig from the new
> message.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark

>>
>>
>> "Mark Howells" <Mark (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:03E6157E-BE93-4EE1-B707-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm aware of a number of threads concerning this subject, but I still can't
>> > quite work out what's going on here.
>> >
>> > I have created a new form and published it to a server filesystem as a ..oft
>> > file. I have then created a button in a toolbar and assigned a URL that
>> > points to the .oft file - so far so good. However, when I use the button a
>> > new message is created using my template without a signature. However, when
>> > a colleague uses the same template via a button in the same way, his
>> > signature is 'prepended' onto the top of the message. Both of us have
>> > similar sigs that are set as the signature for new messages.
>> >
>> > Here's what I'd really like.
>> >
>> > 1. The autosig to be added at the end of the template (but I believe this
>> > is impossible - seems like the sort of place you'd want a sig though)
>> >
>> > 2. The autosig to be inhibited for templates. I have implemented the
>> > NoAutosigOnCustomForms optin but this appears to have no effect.
>> >
>> > 3. I'd like to understand why my system behave differently to my colleagues.
>> > I created the template (if it makes any difference)
>> >
>> > Both using Outlook 2003, SP1
>>

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

> 1) It is not possible to control the position.
>
> 2) NoAutosigOnCustomForms is the available solution. It affects only custom forms, not regular messages.

Look,

This reply is not helpful - I don't mean to be rude, but I'd already
indicated in my first post that I suspected the position couldn't be changed.
I also indicated that I'd tried to use the NoAutosigOnCustomForms registry
setting but to no effect. Being told that "NoAutosigOnCustomForms is the
available solution" doesn't really help my current position.

I'm sure I'll sort it out somehow and when I do, I'll post a solution here.

Cheers

Mark

>
> --
> Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
> Author of
> Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
> Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
> http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
>
>
> "Mark Howells" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:C59BC9C7-98BC-4D36-9E07-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> >
> > "Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
> >
> >> #1 and #2 are contradictory. Maybe you can explain a little more clearly.
> >
> > Sure, sorry.
> >
> > 1. If the autosig is added at all, I'd like it to be after the template
> > body, not before it. (I believe that this is just impossible, but it's what
> > I would like ...
> >
> > 2. If #1 is impossible, I'd like to inhibit the insertion of the sig. when
> > my template is used. Not ideal but less annoying for users than either
> > inhibiting ALL autosigs or having to delete the inserted sig from the new
> > message.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Mark
>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mark Howells" <Mark (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:03E6157E-BE93-4EE1-B707-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I'm aware of a number of threads concerning this subject, but I still can't
> >> > quite work out what's going on here.
> >> >
> >> > I have created a new form and published it to a server filesystem as a ..oft
> >> > file. I have then created a button in a toolbar and assigned a URL that
> >> > points to the .oft file - so far so good. However, when I use the button a
> >> > new message is created using my template without a signature. However, when
> >> > a colleague uses the same template via a button in the same way, his
> >> > signature is 'prepended' onto the top of the message. Both of us have
> >> > similar sigs that are set as the signature for new messages.
> >> >
> >> > Here's what I'd really like.
> >> >
> >> > 1. The autosig to be added at the end of the template (but I believe this
> >> > is impossible - seems like the sort of place you'd want a sig though)
> >> >
> >> > 2. The autosig to be inhibited for templates. I have implemented the
> >> > NoAutosigOnCustomForms optin but this appears to have no effect.
> >> >
> >> > 3. I'd like to understand why my system behave differently to my colleagues.
> >> > I created the template (if it makes any difference)
> >> >
> >> > Both using Outlook 2003, SP1
> >>
>