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      27th Feb 2006
Word 2000
In the header of my document I have {Page} of {Num Pages}
I have highlight changes turned on.
The document is protected.

To edit this document, I unprotect the document, make the edits then protect
the document and resave - with highlight changes on this gives me a marked up
copy showing my edits.
Once the edits have been approved I unprotect the document, highlight
changes - accept all edits, protect the document and resave.

The problem is when I save the document all edits are accepted.
But when I reopen the document the NumPages has been updated and Highlight
Changes has marked this as a change.

Since this document is veiwed online - it looks like this is an error or
unaccepted edit. How do I turnoff the autoupdate of this field.
 
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      27th Feb 2006
You don't, not if you want it to remain fields.
However, it might help if you were to do a print preview of your document
before reprotecting it. Haven't tested this, but print preview does reset
these fields. The thing is that the x of page x of y must remain active and
must update if it to actually show your current page number.

Is the protection only for track changes or are you protecting for forms as
well?
--
Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
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"Cold & Confused in Canada" <Cold & Confused in
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news:04BBE4B9-887D-4020-AC58-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Word 2000
> In the header of my document I have {Page} of {Num Pages}
> I have highlight changes turned on.
> The document is protected.
>
> To edit this document, I unprotect the document, make the edits then
> protect
> the document and resave - with highlight changes on this gives me a marked
> up
> copy showing my edits.
> Once the edits have been approved I unprotect the document, highlight
> changes - accept all edits, protect the document and resave.
>
> The problem is when I save the document all edits are accepted.
> But when I reopen the document the NumPages has been updated and Highlight
> Changes has marked this as a change.
>
> Since this document is veiwed online - it looks like this is an error or
> unaccepted edit. How do I turnoff the autoupdate of this field.



 
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      28th Feb 2006
Thanks Charles,
I have tried Manual updating before saving, Print Preview and Printing and
have tried Reinserting the fields. When I close the file the NumPage field
is updated and reads correct. When I open the file it shows it has been
updated, but then when I take off the protection the highlighting goes away.

I am using this for controlled documents - so if a user prints an
uncontrolled copy it cannot be edited and printed without showing the
markups. Yes I know that someone can get around this by a copy and paste or
by retyping in the document. But this protection is for honest users.

I know that the commands are working as they are designed and that when I
open the file it updates the field and therefore the highlight changes does
its job but can you not change this so it will stay a field and update
manually on request.

"Charles Kenyon" wrote:

> You don't, not if you want it to remain fields.
> However, it might help if you were to do a print preview of your document
> before reprotecting it. Haven't tested this, but print preview does reset
> these fields. The thing is that the x of page x of y must remain active and
> must update if it to actually show your current page number.
>
> Is the protection only for track changes or are you protecting for forms as
> well?
> --
> Charles Kenyon
>
> Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word
>
> Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
> Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide
>
> See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
> --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
> This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
> and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
> from my ignorance and your wisdom.
>
>
> "Cold & Confused in Canada" <Cold & Confused in
> (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:04BBE4B9-887D-4020-AC58-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Word 2000
> > In the header of my document I have {Page} of {Num Pages}
> > I have highlight changes turned on.
> > The document is protected.
> >
> > To edit this document, I unprotect the document, make the edits then
> > protect
> > the document and resave - with highlight changes on this gives me a marked
> > up
> > copy showing my edits.
> > Once the edits have been approved I unprotect the document, highlight
> > changes - accept all edits, protect the document and resave.
> >
> > The problem is when I save the document all edits are accepted.
> > But when I reopen the document the NumPages has been updated and Highlight
> > Changes has marked this as a change.
> >
> > Since this document is veiwed online - it looks like this is an error or
> > unaccepted edit. How do I turnoff the autoupdate of this field.

>
>
>

 
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      28th Feb 2006
If you are using Page X of Y formatting, do both the X and the Y show this
behavior or only the Y? If so, you could lock the Y part. The thing is, if
you lock the X part, you get "Page 3 of 7" on all of your pages.

I don't know of anyway to lock this Page field without getting a weird
result.
--
Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
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from my ignorance and your wisdom.


"Cold & Confused in Canada" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote in message news:E032EDCC-58B8-40EA-B587-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks Charles,
> I have tried Manual updating before saving, Print Preview and Printing and
> have tried Reinserting the fields. When I close the file the NumPage
> field
> is updated and reads correct. When I open the file it shows it has been
> updated, but then when I take off the protection the highlighting goes
> away.
>
> I am using this for controlled documents - so if a user prints an
> uncontrolled copy it cannot be edited and printed without showing the
> markups. Yes I know that someone can get around this by a copy and paste
> or
> by retyping in the document. But this protection is for honest users.
>
> I know that the commands are working as they are designed and that when I
> open the file it updates the field and therefore the highlight changes
> does
> its job but can you not change this so it will stay a field and update
> manually on request.
>
> "Charles Kenyon" wrote:
>
>> You don't, not if you want it to remain fields.
>> However, it might help if you were to do a print preview of your document
>> before reprotecting it. Haven't tested this, but print preview does reset
>> these fields. The thing is that the x of page x of y must remain active
>> and
>> must update if it to actually show your current page number.
>>
>> Is the protection only for track changes or are you protecting for forms
>> as
>> well?
>> --
>> Charles Kenyon
>>
>> Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word
>>
>> Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
>> Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide
>>
>> See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
>> --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
>> This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
>> and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
>> from my ignorance and your wisdom.
>>
>>
>> "Cold & Confused in Canada" <Cold & Confused in
>> (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:04BBE4B9-887D-4020-AC58-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Word 2000
>> > In the header of my document I have {Page} of {Num Pages}
>> > I have highlight changes turned on.
>> > The document is protected.
>> >
>> > To edit this document, I unprotect the document, make the edits then
>> > protect
>> > the document and resave - with highlight changes on this gives me a
>> > marked
>> > up
>> > copy showing my edits.
>> > Once the edits have been approved I unprotect the document, highlight
>> > changes - accept all edits, protect the document and resave.
>> >
>> > The problem is when I save the document all edits are accepted.
>> > But when I reopen the document the NumPages has been updated and
>> > Highlight
>> > Changes has marked this as a change.
>> >
>> > Since this document is veiwed online - it looks like this is an error
>> > or
>> > unaccepted edit. How do I turnoff the autoupdate of this field.

>>
>>
>>



 
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      28th Feb 2006
{ PAGE } of { NUMPAGES } is in the header
{ FILENAME \p } is in the footer

only the { NUMPAGES } updates the other two are okay

But the { NUMPAGES } field is probably updating during a repagination
process when opening the file or printing. Like I said the commands are
working the way they should but if that is the case then I can never have a {
NUMPAGES } field in a protected file with highlight changes on - since it
will always show that it has updated.

I can use the Control / Shift + F11 to Lock this field and then unlock when
or if the total number of pages updates.

Thanks Charles guess I was looking to control the procedure that causes this
to happen instead of the controlling the effect. But this answer will get me
the results I want.


"Charles Kenyon" wrote:

> If you are using Page X of Y formatting, do both the X and the Y show this
> behavior or only the Y? If so, you could lock the Y part. The thing is, if
> you lock the X part, you get "Page 3 of 7" on all of your pages.
>
> I don't know of anyway to lock this Page field without getting a weird
> result.
> --
> Charles Kenyon
>
> Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word
>
> Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
> Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide
>
> See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
> --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
> This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
> and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
> from my ignorance and your wisdom.
>
>
> "Cold & Confused in Canada" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote in message news:E032EDCC-58B8-40EA-B587-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Thanks Charles,
> > I have tried Manual updating before saving, Print Preview and Printing and
> > have tried Reinserting the fields. When I close the file the NumPage
> > field
> > is updated and reads correct. When I open the file it shows it has been
> > updated, but then when I take off the protection the highlighting goes
> > away.
> >
> > I am using this for controlled documents - so if a user prints an
> > uncontrolled copy it cannot be edited and printed without showing the
> > markups. Yes I know that someone can get around this by a copy and paste
> > or
> > by retyping in the document. But this protection is for honest users.
> >
> > I know that the commands are working as they are designed and that when I
> > open the file it updates the field and therefore the highlight changes
> > does
> > its job but can you not change this so it will stay a field and update
> > manually on request.
> >
> > "Charles Kenyon" wrote:
> >
> >> You don't, not if you want it to remain fields.
> >> However, it might help if you were to do a print preview of your document
> >> before reprotecting it. Haven't tested this, but print preview does reset
> >> these fields. The thing is that the x of page x of y must remain active
> >> and
> >> must update if it to actually show your current page number.
> >>
> >> Is the protection only for track changes or are you protecting for forms
> >> as
> >> well?
> >> --
> >> Charles Kenyon
> >>
> >> Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word
> >>
> >> Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
> >> Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide
> >>
> >> See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
> >> --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
> >> This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
> >> and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
> >> from my ignorance and your wisdom.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Cold & Confused in Canada" <Cold & Confused in
> >> (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:04BBE4B9-887D-4020-AC58-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Word 2000
> >> > In the header of my document I have {Page} of {Num Pages}
> >> > I have highlight changes turned on.
> >> > The document is protected.
> >> >
> >> > To edit this document, I unprotect the document, make the edits then
> >> > protect
> >> > the document and resave - with highlight changes on this gives me a
> >> > marked
> >> > up
> >> > copy showing my edits.
> >> > Once the edits have been approved I unprotect the document, highlight
> >> > changes - accept all edits, protect the document and resave.
> >> >
> >> > The problem is when I save the document all edits are accepted.
> >> > But when I reopen the document the NumPages has been updated and
> >> > Highlight
> >> > Changes has marked this as a change.
> >> >
> >> > Since this document is veiwed online - it looks like this is an error
> >> > or
> >> > unaccepted edit. How do I turnoff the autoupdate of this field.
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

 
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Glad to have been able to suggest a workaround, even if it is clumsy.
--
Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.


"Cold & Confused in Canada" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote in message news:960240F6-486D-4688-B4D9-(E-Mail Removed)...
>{ PAGE } of { NUMPAGES } is in the header
> { FILENAME \p } is in the footer
>
> only the { NUMPAGES } updates the other two are okay
>
> But the { NUMPAGES } field is probably updating during a repagination
> process when opening the file or printing. Like I said the commands are
> working the way they should but if that is the case then I can never have
> a {
> NUMPAGES } field in a protected file with highlight changes on - since it
> will always show that it has updated.
>
> I can use the Control / Shift + F11 to Lock this field and then unlock
> when
> or if the total number of pages updates.
>
> Thanks Charles guess I was looking to control the procedure that causes
> this
> to happen instead of the controlling the effect. But this answer will get
> me
> the results I want.
>
>
> "Charles Kenyon" wrote:
>
>> If you are using Page X of Y formatting, do both the X and the Y show
>> this
>> behavior or only the Y? If so, you could lock the Y part. The thing is,
>> if
>> you lock the X part, you get "Page 3 of 7" on all of your pages.
>>
>> I don't know of anyway to lock this Page field without getting a weird
>> result.
>> --
>> Charles Kenyon
>>
>> Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word
>>
>> Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
>> Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide
>>
>> See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
>> --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
>> This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
>> and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
>> from my ignorance and your wisdom.
>>
>>
>> "Cold & Confused in Canada"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote in message
>> news:E032EDCC-58B8-40EA-B587-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Thanks Charles,
>> > I have tried Manual updating before saving, Print Preview and Printing
>> > and
>> > have tried Reinserting the fields. When I close the file the NumPage
>> > field
>> > is updated and reads correct. When I open the file it shows it has
>> > been
>> > updated, but then when I take off the protection the highlighting goes
>> > away.
>> >
>> > I am using this for controlled documents - so if a user prints an
>> > uncontrolled copy it cannot be edited and printed without showing the
>> > markups. Yes I know that someone can get around this by a copy and
>> > paste
>> > or
>> > by retyping in the document. But this protection is for honest users.
>> >
>> > I know that the commands are working as they are designed and that when
>> > I
>> > open the file it updates the field and therefore the highlight changes
>> > does
>> > its job but can you not change this so it will stay a field and update
>> > manually on request.
>> >
>> > "Charles Kenyon" wrote:
>> >
>> >> You don't, not if you want it to remain fields.
>> >> However, it might help if you were to do a print preview of your
>> >> document
>> >> before reprotecting it. Haven't tested this, but print preview does
>> >> reset
>> >> these fields. The thing is that the x of page x of y must remain
>> >> active
>> >> and
>> >> must update if it to actually show your current page number.
>> >>
>> >> Is the protection only for track changes or are you protecting for
>> >> forms
>> >> as
>> >> well?
>> >> --
>> >> Charles Kenyon
>> >>
>> >> Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word
>> >>
>> >> Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
>> >> Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide
>> >>
>> >> See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!
>> >> --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
>> >> This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
>> >> and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
>> >> from my ignorance and your wisdom.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Cold & Confused in Canada" <Cold & Confused in
>> >> (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:04BBE4B9-887D-4020-AC58-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > Word 2000
>> >> > In the header of my document I have {Page} of {Num Pages}
>> >> > I have highlight changes turned on.
>> >> > The document is protected.
>> >> >
>> >> > To edit this document, I unprotect the document, make the edits then
>> >> > protect
>> >> > the document and resave - with highlight changes on this gives me a
>> >> > marked
>> >> > up
>> >> > copy showing my edits.
>> >> > Once the edits have been approved I unprotect the document,
>> >> > highlight
>> >> > changes - accept all edits, protect the document and resave.
>> >> >
>> >> > The problem is when I save the document all edits are accepted.
>> >> > But when I reopen the document the NumPages has been updated and
>> >> > Highlight
>> >> > Changes has marked this as a change.
>> >> >
>> >> > Since this document is veiwed online - it looks like this is an
>> >> > error
>> >> > or
>> >> > unaccepted edit. How do I turnoff the autoupdate of this field.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>



 
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